Guest Mee-9 Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 You have the right to boo.You have the right to vote. You have the right to nail your cock to a table and stuff tangerines up your arse. Exercising certain "rights" is a normal part of living in a society - exercising others just colours you an utter twat. I will not be practising my right to do that.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 I don't think anyone's suggesting that anyone doesn't have the right to express their opinion, whatever it is. It's more a debate over whether they should, or need to. It boils down to whether you believe people, whatever walk of life they're in, respond better to encouragement or criticism. I go for the former, myself. I've seen instances of players putting in more effort when the crowd gets behind them, but I'm struggling to recall seeing a team upping their game when the crowd is on their back - and I've seen a few going to pieces. I think a lot of it is to do with the lack of connection that there is between players and fans these days. The massive disparity between what the players and spectators earn, and the fact that people have pay a lot of money to go to the games fuels the resentment that a lot of people seem quick to express. The money you pay and the outcome of the game aren't linked, though. The price of a ticket gets you into a match, nothing more. When you're shelling out so much money maybe it's not surprising that people start thinking more like consumers than supporters
colbo68 Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 I don't think anyone's suggesting that anyone doesn't have the right to express their opinion, whatever it is. It's more a debate over whether they should, or need to.It boils down to whether you believe people, whatever walk of life they're in, respond better to encouragement or criticism. I go for the former, myself. I've seen instances of players putting in more effort when the crowd gets behind them, but I'm struggling to recall seeing a team upping their game when the crowd is on their back - and I've seen a few going to pieces. I think a lot of it is to do with the lack of connection that there is between players and fans these days. The massive disparity between what the players and spectators earn, and the fact that people have pay a lot of money to go to the games fuels the resentment that a lot of people seem quick to express. The money you pay and the outcome of the game aren't linked, though. The price of a ticket gets you into a match, nothing more. When you're shelling out so much money maybe it's not surprising that people start thinking more like consumers than supporters I think you are spot on here.... in a consumer led world we expect and demand value for money I believe this to be pervading into every aspect of life even football. Do you think that Man Utd, or Liverpool or Chelsea fans wouldn't start to boo after a given time if their 'stars' were underperforming? Imagine if the current Man City team dropped down to the Championship. In the same way as someone would get pissed-off if they had just spent fifty grand on a new Merc that kept breaking down, so we expect a club like City, with well-paid players and apparently strong financial backing to give us value for money. We DEMAND it. And booing is one way (perhaps the ONLY) way, other than boycotting games? that we can vent our frustration to the players, the manager and the board.
Jon the Hat Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 Booing is for wimps. Real men winge continuously to those immediately around them.
dandannieldanok Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 It boils down to whether you believe people, whatever walk of life they're in, respond better to encouragement or criticism. I go for the former, myself. I've seen instances of players putting in more effort when the crowd gets behind them, but I'm struggling to recall seeing a team upping their game when the crowd is on their back - and I've seen a few going to pieces. I think you and plenty of others are getting a little mixed up when you say this kind of thing. The majority of those who boo don't do it to try and get the team to play better, instead it's simply an easy way to express displeasure, nothing more. I think everyone's taking it a bit too far tbh, was the booing really that bad? There was a little bit after the 3rd goal but the encouraging chants from the back of L1 were far louder and more frequent throughout the duration of the match. People need to get over it.
Daggers Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 People have the right to critique through mediums other than booing. I would like to see some de-constructive comments about matchday performances done through improvised drama, dance and mime. Maybe the use of modern art or three part harmonies? Booing seems so Jeremy Kyle.
acooling08 Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 They played so diabolically in the last 2 games that they shouldn't get their wages but I haven't booed them.
Ozwin Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 People pay to watch the team play, they can do what they like. I don't boo personally but I can see why people do.
The Doctor Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 Boo or don't Boo it doesn't make that much of a difference. If you get critized for this that and the other eventually you establish the people critizing you as utter twonks and their voices fade into nothingness. It all depends on the players mentality which generally becomes fixed at a young age. If they have a positive, determined mentality going behind can spur them on to great performances than usual, If they have a bad mentality then they'll react badly to going behind, confidence will fall and the game can turn into a rout. All in all booing just seems like another form of kicking someone when they're down which just isn't right. You let them get up before you knock them down again
lou Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 People have the right to critique through mediums other than booing.I would like to see some de-constructive comments about matchday performances done through improvised drama, dance and mime. Maybe the use of modern art or three part harmonies? Booing seems so Jeremy Kyle. I might try and have another seizure and invite people to film me as a protest
OLD norfox Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 Ok, I am not a big fan of booing the side off because Nigel is a legend and has done a wonderful job here.But when you add up all the money you spend: . Season ticket or away ticket . Petrol or money to get to and on the bus . Car park . Food . Drink . Matchday programme You are looking at a load of money and when you have paid it, surely, you have the right to boo the team off if you want too? get yourself a life !!!!!!!
leicesterseddon Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 The BBC ****wit in question was reporting the findings of some research where equipment had been used to measure noise levels in decibels at each Premier League ground and Stoke's was the loudest. Of course, they might all have been booing passionately...I didn't question the passion of people who boo, only whether it had a productive effect on team morale and performance. From the BBC? Don't get me started...
Legend_in_blue Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 It's not necessarily booing the team as I see it. It was the general atmosphere of the game last night, the performance, just about everything wasn't right. The booing started with the referee and his linesman. It then spread like a virus onto the team and management after 60 minutes of booing/berating the linesman and referee and an ineffective attempt at altering the flow of the game. It was a tactically inept performance last night and come Saturday, if the same is served up, they'll be booing after 45 or less imo. As bad as it is, some of our fans don't have a clue and I agree, it doesn't exactly help to boo the team, but then again people on here have a go at Neilson, and singling out individuals is far worse imo. Criticising a performance is fine, but taking it too far to the extent Neilson is berated on here is out of order.
Guest Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 You have the right to nail your cock to a table and stuff tangerines up your arse. You obviously haven't read R v Brown.
lavrentis Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 I booed them in the relegation season because they deserved it but with the position we are in the league I don't think we have reason to boo them. Yes our 2 last games have been diabolicle but I trust Nige to sort this out.
lou Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 It's not necessarily booing the team as I see it.It was the general atmosphere of the game last night, the performance, just about everything wasn't right. The booing started with the referee and his linesman. It then spread like a virus onto the team and management after 60 minutes of booing/berating the linesman and referee and an ineffective attempt at altering the flow of the game. It was a tactically inept performance last night and come Saturday, if the same is served up, they'll be booing after 45 or less imo. As bad as it is, some of our fans don't have a clue and I agree, it doesn't exactly help to boo the team, but then again people on here have a go at Neilson, and singling out individuals is far worse imo. Criticising a performance is fine, but taking it too far to the extent Neilson is berated on here is out of order. I bet Neilson comes on here and reads them and cries himself to sleep every night. Poor lamb on his thousands a week Hes had quite a bit of support on here lately too.
Karljohn Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 Did not boo last night, and been a long time since I did (Peter Taylor days), wasted enough time and money last night and booing doesnt make me feel better, Id prefer to imagine NP giving them a monumental bollocking for being so shite!
Fox92 Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 get yourself a life !!!!!!! Why? If you pay it, you have the right to leave the ground or express your opinions. That may mean booing the team.
BoneDog Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 It is football fans who make everything possible in football. If it weren't for fans the players wouldn't be getting paid thousands a week. So if some fans feel that the players haven't really worked as hard as they should I see nothing wrong with a bit of booing on occasions. Support is the most important thing though. Fans have a big part to play and should try and make as much noise as possible throughout 90 minutes cos it does give the players a real boost and can make a massive difference. And I sometimes feel that the fans also deserve a boo because they are just too slack and make a pretty terrible amosphere (usually at home). There's obviously some fans who always try but there's too many who don't bother and just wait for something to happen (we know you can sing cos for a few minutes after a goal for example the chants are 5 times louder ). Why not just keep givin it some for 90 minutes?
Head Honcho Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 Never boo yer own team during the game but if they've played like TWATS then after 90 minutes they're fair game!
Nationwider Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 I'm not going to boo my own team. Like it'd make a difference if I did. You may as well jab a pencil in your eyeball. Once you've handed over your hard-earned and passed through the turnstile, your afternoon/evening is basically in the lap of the gods. Short of printing on the front of the ticket, "This match may contain scenes that may upset some spectators" there's not a whole lot anyone can do about it. You can't pick the team, you can't materially affect their performance, and you don't get to rant at them in the dressing room afterwards. So, to me, booing is an utterly pointless exercise. Some people just enjoy negativity - fine, go watch episodes of Eastenders on repeat. Some people just enjoy a good moan - why not just go and queue in Argos every Saturday afternoon then? Some people just use football as a medium for releasing every fúcking tedious dumbass opinion that flickers between their two remaining functioning brain cells - you know who you are, because you seem to follow me around wherever I go. I just go to the match, becuase I like going to the match. It'll probably be shit, but there you go. If you want to boo, why not save it up for the next time Marlon King or Dennis Wise show their faces inside a football ground near you?
Budweiser Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 I left after the 3rd goal yesterday. Gave 'um a bit of stick at half time. I can't see whats wrong with giving it some, they sit on their fat pay checks at the end of the week, a bit of booing isn't going to crush them. Im sure most don't give a shite anyway.
Fosse Boy Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 I have more fun singing/dancing/generally acting like a twat than I do booing, therefore if I hand over my hard earned cash to pay for a ticket then that's what I like to do - win, lose or draw. Admittedly I was stood in silence for a fair bit of the second half on Saturday in total shock at how wank we were, but booing just doesn't come on to my radar of things to do while at football. Maybe we could turn it into a chant? Make "Booooooooooooooo" our version of "Milllllllllllllllllllllllllll"?
StanSP Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 Why?If you pay it, you have the right to leave the ground or express your opinions. That may mean booing the team. So even though you've paid money to SUPPORT them, you'd still boo them and dash their confidence even more?? Tell me, do you go to a match to support your team or boo your team?
caz123 Posted 9 December 2009 Posted 9 December 2009 So even though you've paid money to SUPPORT them, you'd still boo them and dash their confidence even more??Tell me, do you go to a match to support your team or boo your team? Well said mate,no need for it i have just seen on the 606 site that coventry have won 2 in 20 games,and were complaining
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