StanSP Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 He's quite talented for his age and has done explicably well over the past 2 seasons and established himself in a positive way. Think things can only get better for the lad, both for club and country.
lou Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 Was very close to leaving. New contract signed I believe, but cannot say for sure. Oh God that wouldnt have been good at all. Hope he has signed, like King and he gets a lot of needless stick, woiuldnt be surprised if thats one of the reasons he nearly went to be honest. Ive heard hes the kind of lad who it gets to. Cheers Bert.
Samilktray Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 If Delph cant get a game for Villa, King has no chance.
Joe. Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 Thing is he's still very young so if the move's really right for him it'll happen eventually. Glad he's staying with us for now though, I don't think he'll regret it. Games at Villa would be so few and far between, even in cup matches.
Dan Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 I'd prefer it if we sold him.Goes missing completely far too often and doesnt look like he's imroved at all over the last couple of years. I would depending on the price. I think he is absolutely drastically over-rated by our fans, I can't see all the star quality everyone else sees in him. He's not bad, but hes not that good either. Agree with the last line too, you often forget he is playing, I'd much rather Oakley went in the centre and N'Guessan played on the right, due to him having far more impact on a game. Boring. Oh, so because you disagree with him, his opinion doesn't count? Ridiculous mindset. How people can call El Furio a wind up just because he doesn't think King's a star is beyond me.
MPH Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 King. Or Kingy as you shockingly write it is USELESScan hit a ball from edge of box THATS ALL HE EVER DOES! A perfect example of why we are not good enough yet to get out of this League or string passes together. The fact he is rated is seriously beyond me. Its crazy how scoring 2 or 3 goals can get you rated as a player. I think you have answered your own post with that one...
Leicester Rule! Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 Please shut up Why? He's entitled to his opinion isn't he?
StanSP Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 Why? He's entitled to his opinion isn't he? Yeah but it's a disillusioned opinion. One that has no substance. It was like Fox92's obsession with Chris Weale and his shortcomings even though Weale had been one of our best players this season.
Guest nathan. Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 Why? He's entitled to his opinion isn't he? Of course he is, i was just offering some advice
maddog Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 He's certainly become more 'visible' in his last few games with his goals and general contribution. Although whether i've just noticed him more due to the shitty awful Oakley and poor Wellens recently remains to be seen. Still not convinced by him though, maybe in a couple of seasons if he's still here the picture will be clearer.
Thracian Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 And let's hope that is the case, but my statement still stands - If he doesn't want to be here then let him go. When has King ever been heard to say he doesn't want to be here? Never in the six years I've followed his progress. We don't know the circumstances of why and how he "nearly left" but you can expect that any offer or pre-offer enquiry would only have come from a Premiership club and the upshot seems to be that he's not leaving and has supposedly signed his new contract. There might have been the chance of a change that would have tempted even the most loyal of footballers or it might be that King was on significantly lower wages than some of the more senior players and simply wanted to negotiate better terms knowing that other clubs were nibbling. Either way King will have paid the club a big compliment if he has signed a new deal and demonstrated in the strongest and plainest possible way that he wants to stay here and, indeed, appreciates the opportunities he's been given. From all I know of King he is one of the most down-to-earth, and least pretentious people you will ever meet and that goes for his dad and the rest of his family who have often been seen supporting their son and our team on the touchline and terraces with all the other fans. I cannot imagine either King himself nor any member of his family would "not want to be here". King came to Leicester having been released by Chelsea and I have always had the distinct impression that they are all extremely grateful for and appreciative of the opportunity offered by Leicester. What the length of his supposed new contract is I don't know but if it's three years that could well take him to eight seasons with the club seeing as he joined in 2004. That would be a long time for a lad who's still only 21 and hardly the record of someone who doesn't want to be here. As for his value to the squad I've said it all before and nothing's changed. He still has improvements to make but, once again, he seems on target for a double-figure season as a goalscorer and how I wish we had others who could control and pass the ball as quickly and reliably as he does. King is a players player, forever covering where a gap's been left, shepherding opponents into blind alley's, breaking down an opposition attack and quietly launching one of our own or turning up unseen for a decent crack at goal. He hardly ever ball watches nor does he recklessly dive into tackles leaving us fatally exposed. You only had to see the youth team defending against Liverpool to see what happens when players neglect to do those things and how reliable King is by comparison. In fact, from what I've seen this season I'd consider him our most reliable player, the one guy who continues to pass the ball quickly to feet and so retain possession whatever the circumstances and who's 14 goals in 73 starts, often in defensive midfield, have made such a contribution to our recent success. Not only that, but he's hardly missed a moment's playing time since Pearson's arrival and has almost certainly clocked up more minutes on the pitch than anyone else. He's never sent off, he hardly ever gets booked and is rarely out with injury. For a 21-year-old playing at the heart of a promotion-winning and now promotion-chasing team they are considerable achievements in themselves.
Guest nathan. Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 When has King ever been heard to say he doesn't want to be here? Never in the six years I've followed his progress.We don't know the circumstances of why and how he "nearly left" but you can expect that any offer or pre-offer enquiry would only have come from a Premiership club and the upshot seems to be that he's not leaving and has supposedly signed his new contract. There might have been the chance of a change that would have tempted even the most loyal of footballers or it might be that King was on significantly lower wages than some of the more senior players and simply wanted to negotiate better terms knowing that other clubs were nibbling. Either way King will have paid the club a big compliment if he has signed a new deal and demonstrated in the strongest and plainest possible way that he wants to stay here and, indeed, appreciates the opportunities he's been given. From all I know of King he is one of the most down-to-earth, and least pretentious people you will ever meet and that goes for his dad and the rest of his family who have often been seen supporting their son and our team on the touchline and terraces with all the other fans. I cannot imagine either King himself nor any member of his family would "not want to be here". King came to Leicester having been released by Chelsea and I have always had the distinct impression that they are all extremely grateful for and appreciative of the opportunity offered by Leicester. What the length of his supposed new contract is I don't know but if it's three years that could well take him to eight seasons with the club seeing as he joined in 2004. That would be a long time for a lad who's still only 21 and hardly the record of someone who doesn't want to be here. As for his value to the squad I've said it all before and nothing's changed. He still has improvements to make but, once again, he seems on target for a double-figure season as a goalscorer and how I wish we had others who could control and pass the ball as quickly and reliably as he does. King is a players player, forever covering where a gap's been left, shepherding opponents into blind alley's, breaking down an opposition attack and quietly launching one of our own or turning up unseen for a decent crack at goal. He hardly ever ball watches nor does he recklessly dive into tackles leaving us fatally exposed. You only had to see the youth team defending against Liverpool to see what happens when players neglect to do those things and how reliable King is by comparison. In fact, from what I've seen this season I'd consider him our most reliable player, the one guy who continues to pass the ball quickly to feet and so retain possession whatever the circumstances and who's 14 goals in 73 starts, often in defensive midfield, have made such a contribution to our recent success. Not only that, but he's hardly missed a moment's playing time since Pearson's arrival and has almost certainly clocked up more minutes on the pitch than anyone else. He's never sent off, he hardly ever gets booked and is rarely out with injury. For a 21-year-old playing at the heart of a promotion-winning and now promotion-chasing team they are considerable achievements in themselves. Brilliant post, absolutely spot on.
Lillehamring Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 stuff about king i know it's your specialist subject, but great post thrac, nice to have you posting again....
ousefox Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 i know it's your specialist subject, but great post thrac, nice to have you posting again.... Agreed
Jimmy Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 Sorry but I genuinly have never rated him.I've had a season ticket for the last 5 years and go to most away games. Last season he looked ok but still nothing special. I know he scored a load of goals last year but even with that I still didnt particularly rate him. Sorry then you obviously know nothing about football if you don't understand what he contributes, plus he's being asked to do a roll that restricts his game
Ford Super Sunday Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 King was at the Academy game on Tuesday with Morrison, he walked right past me, if that makes any difference to anyone at all's opinion of him or his desire to be/not be here.
lildave3 Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 I bloody love King. Behind Steve, my favourite player.
Leicester Rule! Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 I don't think that King is as good as people make out. Not saying that he is shit, saying he is overrated. Saying that though, he is a regular player in a side whose position in 5th, so yes, Im happy to keep him in there. And fair enough, he gets on the scoresheet from time to time, which is a beneficial player to have.
davieG Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 I don't think that King is as good as people make out. Not saying that he is shit, saying he is overrated.Saying that though, he is a regular player in a side whose position in 5th, so yes, Im happy to keep him in there. And fair enough, he gets on the scoresheet from time to time, which is a beneficial player to have. How is he overrated then? I don't think anybody has suggested that he's doing anything more than you'd expect from a young inexperienced player, he's doing decent a job in an average Championship team whilst learning his trade just like any other young person in any business or sport. He has some potential which may or may not be realised. It's the people that dismiss him because he doesn't stand-out, primarily because he makes very few mistakes, unlike some of his more experienced team mates that are underrating him. Sure he doesn't take too many risks but if he did errors would become increasingly part of his game and no doubt he'd become noticeable and booed off the pitch.
Leicester Rule! Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 How is he overrated then? I don't think anybody has suggested that he's doing anything more than you'd expect from a young inexperienced player, he's doing decent a job in an average Championship team whilst learning his trade just like any other young person in any business or sport. He has some potential which may or may not be realised. It's the people that dismiss him because he doesn't stand-out, primarily because he makes very few mistakes, unlike some of his more experienced team mates that are underrating him. Sure he doesn't take too many risks but if he did errors would become increasingly part of his game and no doubt he'd become noticeable and booed off the pitch. Overated on here in my opinion, and in the Leicester Mercury from time to time. Good points well made though to be honest, as long as makes few mistakes, does the basics right, and continues like he is is at the moment, I'm sure he'll be a good player. I'm probably not taking into account his age. Yes, he does have some potential, lets hope he continutes to develop .
El Furio Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 then you obviously know nothing about football if you don't understand what he contributes, plus he's being asked to do a roll that restricts his game Jesus Christ!! What the hell is the problem? Just because I don't think Andy King is as fantastic player I know nothing about football? What roll is he being asked to do that restricts his game exactly? As far as I can see, Wellens is sitting deep and King is being told to go forward and support the front two. Is that not his natural game? I base my opinion on what I see and from what I see, this is my opinion of Andy King: - No pace Can't tackle Poor in the air Not a particularly good range of passing No left foot Great shot & finisher Scores important goals At the minute Wellens, King and Oakley are completely uncompatible in the midfield. There is a lack of balance, bite and composure which results in the ball being hit high and long every single time the back 4 get the ball. With the current playing staff, Wellens and Oakley should be in the middle with N'Guessen or Gradel (when he returns on Monday) on the right hand side. Earlier in the season we were playing good football with that combination but since King has come into the team we have dipped. I'm not saying it's all his fault, all i'm saying is that currently we need a different approach and a midfielder that's only attribute as far as I can see is scoring a goal every now and again is a luxury we can't afford if we want a play off place.
lildave3 Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 Jesus Christ!!What the hell is the problem? Just because I don't think Andy King is as fantastic player I know nothing about football? What roll is he being asked to do that restricts his game exactly? As far as I can see, Wellens is sitting deep and King is being told to go forward and support the front two. Is that not his natural game? I base my opinion on what I see and from what I see, this is my opinion of Andy King: - No pace Can't tackle Poor in the air Not a particularly good range of passing No left foot Great shot & finisher Scores important goals At the minute Wellens, King and Oakley are completely uncompatible in the midfield. There is a lack of balance, bite and composure which results in the ball being hit high and long every single time the back 4 get the ball. With the current playing staff, Wellens and Oakley should be in the middle with N'Guessen or Gradel (when he returns on Monday) on the right hand side. Earlier in the season we were playing good football with that combination but since King has come into the team we have dipped. I'm not saying it's all his fault, all i'm saying is that currently we need a different approach and a midfielder that's only attribute as far as I can see is scoring a goal every now and again is a luxury we can't afford if we want a play off place. I'd go as far as saying King has been our best central midfielder this season.
Fox You Forest Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 I'd go as far as saying King has been our best central midfielder this season. I'd put him on par with Wellens that's for sure, It bemuses me that people would want Oakley and Wellens together in the middle because King goes missing in games when I've not seen Oakley since lifting the trophy after Scunny.
davieG Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 I'd go as far as saying King has been our best central midfielder this season. And most consistent.
dandannieldanok Posted 15 January 2010 Posted 15 January 2010 I'd go as far as saying King has been our best central midfielder this season. It took him a good 3/4 games to get up to pace but he's certainly stepped upto the plate. As King has improved Wellens seems to have declined so I'd probably agree with what your saying.
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