Finnegan Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 The one who's going to have serious words with you one day! If you're lucky that is, and you're not one of the few who will never leave your box in Hell. I read that as Hull at first glance. Which is probably apt. And more concerning.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 And the moral of this story is? I'm not really sure, but it might be somebody somewhere will always say something. What I mean is, you can take whatever position you fancy on any issue and you'll dig up something that supports it if you look hard enough - thanks a lot, internet. I'm a bit sceptical about this one, not because I have an implicit trust in governments, but because I don't believe that if they were that keen to fuck us over they'd even bother trying to deceive us about it. I think everyone should just sit down and have a nice cup of cocoa and forget about it
BoneDog Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 I read that as Hull at first glance. Which is probably apt.And more concerning. Not sure which one I'd prefer. An 8ft cube in Hell all to meself (apart from the Demon who shares it with you ) or Hull for eternity!
Finnegan Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 . An 8ft cube in Hell all to meself (apart from the Demon who shares it with you ) That's a remarkably specific description of a metaphorical locale a lot of Christians don't even recognize as a physical concept.
Babylon Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 Can't believe I forgot about him! And you call yourself a conspiracy theorist!?!?!?!?!
Edmund Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 science and physics are mostly ignored Welcome to a El Empty/Zingari debate :thumbsup: I'm sure in the Creationism Vs Darwinism thread, proved science facts were being ignored and rubbished off.
Zingari Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 Can't believe I forgot about him! re; my avatar it's not Lee Harvey Oswald , it's police officer J D Tippit , the other man that Oswald was supposed to have shot that day , some people have theorised that Tippet was killed merely to be used as a body double in the autopsy as he had a striking bone structure resemblance to JFK ( his body mysteriously vanished ) you'd really enjoy JFK stuff , there is so much well written and researched stuff around this subject . and personally , i believe if anyone really get's to grips with JFK and the events that transpired around the assassination the rest seems to fall into place easily ( well maybe not easily , but its a sort of key to understanding ) http://www.jfkresearch.com/morningstar/morningstar3.htm AMAZING COINCIDENCE In Jim Bishop's account, much to our amazement, besides being shot in the torso several times, Tippit as was described as having been shot the right temple, specifically the right temporal area, the very same region of the head where the fatal shot passed through President Kennedy. the man accused of killing both Tippit and JFK could shoot 2 people within 45 minutes of each other, within 4 miles of each other, one with a rifle from a high building and one with a handgun at short range (on the run), and inflict exactly the same type wound.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 The one who's going to have serious words with you one day! If you're lucky that is, and you're not one of the few who will never leave your box in Hell. Is this the same god the guys from star trek met?
Zingari Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 non scientific question , why bid Bush lie ( or get caught out )about seeing flight 11 hitting WTC 1 on 9 11? how could he have seen this on tv when the only film of this is the Naudet brothers film that was not shown until the next day ,when the imlications were clear if he saw a plane hitting a building , it must have been the 2nd strike , and no-one could have mistaken that for pilot error is this a man tripping up on his own lies ?
Houdini Logic Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 Welcome to a El Empty/Zingari debate :thumbsup:I'm sure in the Creationism Vs Darwinism thread, proved science facts were being ignored and rubbished off. There's a Creationalism Vs Darwinism thread? Got to get on that sh*t...
Houdini Logic Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 All hail the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 non scientific question ,why bid Bush lie ( or get caught out )about seeing flight 11 hitting WTC 1 on 9 11? how could he have seen this on tv when the only film of this is the Naudet brothers film that was not shown until the next day ,when the imlications were clear if he saw a plane hitting a building , it must have been the 2nd strike , and no-one could have mistaken that for pilot error is this a man tripping up on his own lies ? Or just plain dim?
samlcfc Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 Or just plain dim? he did chat some shit in his time
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 he did chat some shit in his time Lets face it, if there was a conspiracy, would you include Bush? He'd surely fook it up?
ozleicester Posted 4 February 2010 Posted 4 February 2010 It is amazing what you can cover up for 9 or more years... In 2001, the Peruvian Air Force shot down a plane flying over the Amazon after receiving information from the CIA that the plane was trafficking in narcotics. It wasn't. It was filled with Christian missionaries. The attack resulted in the death of 35-year-old Veronica Bowers and her infant daughter Charity. The CIA was working with the government of Peru as part of a program to intercept drug planes en route—another part of our disastrous drug interdiction efforts in Latin America. for some reason (bloody government) i cant get the youtube clip up, heres a link Horrible, horrible thing.
easilee Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Anybody heard of the ruby ridge incident. Even if they were racist which is likely, (they were more anti-government militia), this whole incident arose from agents framing Weaver, who was always looking for extra cash to support his family. I suppose i am trying to make clear that the powers that be will not think twice about killing innocent children and a mother holding her infant baby. BTW Bill Maher is a c**t.
BoneDog Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Anybody heard of the ruby ridge incident.Even if they were racist which is likely, (they were more anti-government militia), this whole incident arose from agents framing Weaver, who was always looking for extra cash to support his family. I suppose i am trying to make clear that the powers that be will not think twice about killing innocent children and a mother holding her infant baby. BTW Bill Maher is a c**t. Yeah I heard about that one. First time I heard about it was about 7 years ago when I read Jon Ronsons book 'Them'. I still got the Ruby Ridge video with Randy Quaid! (think you can watch it on Google Video). They sent tanks and shit to their yard it was unbelievable. Whatever folks say about that family they didn't deserve none of that. They shot their kid in the back and it wasn't an accident. They even shot his wife in the head while she was standing at her front door with their baby in her arms. It is shocking how they can get away with this kind of thing. Agree about Bill aswell! Oh, and I wouldn't recommend Ronsons books anymore, he talks too much shit and doesn't ask the right questions in my opinion. I'm sure he's a closet zionist.
BoneDog Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Lets face it, if there was a conspiracy, would you include Bush? He'd surely fook it up? I wouldn't bank on it! He's not as stupid as he sometimes tries to make out you know. In his early years as a politician he was very clever and calculating. Then all of a sudden he started acting like a dip-shit. Don't know why he would do that though
Zingari Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Or just plain dim? of course he's fookin dim , now ask yourself how a dimwit could possibly become the leader of the most powerful and advanced country in the world . could it be that a very powerful faceless organization was ( possibly still is ) pulling all the strings ?
BoneDog Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Welcome to a El Empty/Zingari debate :thumbsup:I'm sure in the Creationism Vs Darwinism thread, proved science facts were being ignored and rubbished off. Come on Edmund we all know that Darwinism and Uniformitarianism are finished! Catastrophism is rocking the scientific world once again. The great Velikovsky will be smiling down on the world as we speak. I know that the scientific establishment like to ignore evidence but they cannot continue to do so for much longer. Darwinism has been debunked already by those scientists who don't just concentrate on one field. For example, astronomers know little about and don't see the Plasma in the universe, while Plasma Physicists see a whole different universe. When these fields work together the whole view of our world changes. I know that you and a few others on here are far from stupid and this is why it baffles me to hear how you think the 3 WTC's came down as they did without the help of a demolition job. Proven scientific facts have been missed by many official story believers on this issue. I recommend that you read 'The New Pearl Harbour' and maybe 'Debunking 911 Debunking' and 'The 911 Commission Report : Omissions and Distortions' if only to confirm your view that the 'conspiracy theories' are false. It is always a good thing to read both sides of the story I think. P.S I know that alot of my posts in the Creationism debate were way over the top but I was half pissing about some of the time! If anyone reads this book you will see how half of the scientific world cannot be believed/trusted. This book is no joke, although it may look so on first glance. Read and thou wilt see Or for folks who still believe in the scientific dogma of Darwinism, just read the first two essays. (this book is not a Creationist book by the way, far from it). Glorious Book (although Empty has one or two points he'd like to make to the authors!)
Babylon Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Debunking 911 Debunking' I prefer 'Debunking the Debunking of 911 Debunking'. Can we let this rest now. You think we're all government sheep for not believing you, and we think you're one egg short of a fry up for actually believing in it. The End. Fin.
davieG Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Well I've read most of this thread and I'm as cynical as anyone especially when it comes to politics. Ignoring all the deep technical proofs, because all they do is contradict each other and without the technical knowledge myself it leaves me undecided so I could believe either side of the argument so am really open minded. There are some convincing aspects to both sides, especially the non technical ones. It seems to me there are two fundamental options being offered, one the planes caused the collapse, or they were decoys to a planned demolition of the buildings. What I have noticed is the demolition theorists have spent quite a lot of time trying to convince people that it was demolition job saying these planes couldn't have caused this type of damage but I've yet to see them post any actual evidence either pre or post-collapse of the existence of the massive amount of explosive devices you'd need to bring this buildings down. I've watched many a programme on the demolition of buildings and it's always shown to be a high complex and intrusive task to get buildings to collapse in this way.
Zingari Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Come on Edmund we all know that Darwinism and Uniformitarianism are finished! Catastrophism is rocking the scientific world once again. The great Velikovsky will be smiling down on the world as we speak. I know that the scientific establishment like to ignore evidence but they cannot continue to do so for much longer. Darwinism has been debunked already by those scientists who don't just concentrate on one field. For example, astronomers know little about and don't see the Plasma in the universe, while Plasma Physicists see a whole different universe. When these fields work together the whole view of our world changes.I know that you and a few others on here are far from stupid and this is why it baffles me to hear how you think the 3 WTC's came down as they did without the help of a demolition job. Proven scientific facts have been missed by many official story believers on this issue. I recommend that you read 'The New Pearl Harbour' and maybe 'Debunking 911 Debunking' and 'The 911 Commission Report : Omissions and Distortions' if only to confirm your view that the 'conspiracy theories' are false. It is always a good thing to read both sides of the story I think. P.S I know that alot of my posts in the Creationism debate were way over the top but I was half pissing about some of the time! If anyone reads this book you will see how half of the scientific world cannot be believed/trusted. This book is no joke, although it may look so on first glance. Read and thou wilt see Or for folks who still believe in the scientific dogma of Darwinism, just read the first two essays. (this book is not a Creationist book by the way, far from it). Glorious Book (although Empty has one or two points he'd like to make to the authors!) Cheers , forgotten I'd meant to get around to this book , just put an order in at Amazon for it I've seen David Ray Griffin speak a lot and was very impressed
Babylon Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Trust davieG to come and shove a stick into the hornets nest.
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