The Budget!

[Flynny]

Damn right timing is important. Off the back of the budget, the pound hit a 19 month high against the euro, so the smart money is behind the Government.

Labour would have done the same cuts only they would have caved left right and centre to the Unions leaving us in a bigger mess.

1. That was mostly the fault of Greece and Bulgaria, I was out there, it was rising all week (1.07 to the pound went I left on the 31st May! Robbing bastards!)

2. What businesses and banks think isn't that important so long as we can still borrow money - the ratings agencies were rating the CDOs that were a huge part of why we had this recession at AAA. They're greedy reactive speculators and to be held to ransom by them is nonsense.

3. Alistair Darling said that the entire point of their plan to halve the deficit over four years was because that was the only sensible timescale over which the private sector could grow to fill the gap. Osbourne is predicting ludicrously high rate of job growth not even seen over the course of the last decade. And if he's wrong, unemployment will be enormous. Even if the truth lies somewhere in between, which it so often does, it's still an irresponsible rate to slash away at.

[Webbo]

2. What businesses and banks think isn't that important so long as we can still borrow money - the ratings agencies were rating the CDOs that were a huge part of why we had this recession at AAA. They're greedy reactive speculators and to be held to ransom by them is nonsense.

When you're desperate to borrow money and you can go into a bank and dictate your own terms you might have a point.

3. Alistair Darling said that the entire point of their plan to halve the deficit over four years was because that was the only sensible timescale over which the private sector could grow to fill the gap. Osbourne is predicting ludicrously high rate of job growth not even seen over the course of the last decade. And if he's wrong, unemployment will be enormous. Even if the truth lies somewhere in between, which it so often does, it's still an irresponsible rate to slash away at.

Labour had their chance and they ****ed it up. If he hadn't made so many ludicrous predictions he might have some credibility himself. The sensible thing would have been to keep the budget in control in the first place.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Thank you very much Labour, for getting this country into such a bloody mess.

Blair and Brown, should be put up against a wall and shot! :mad:

[l444ry]

In the latest YouGov poll published, the Orange Tories are now down to 15%, showing a consistent falling Orange Tory polling percentage.....single figures beckons for Clegg and his stooges.

The coalition's approval rating has dropped 4% in a couple of weeks to +11% and this is before the cuts start to bite. In fact the coalition is now more unpopular than popular with every age group except the 60 plus (who like it at a 3 to 1 ratio) which is what is keeping it in positive territory.....wait until they start axing the free bus passes and pensions.

Also....Kensington and Chelsea Tories are obviously miffed that the Bournemouth Tories had been taking the slimelight with resignations and suspensions. They have now had computer problems of their own with two councillors resigning over inappropriate images of young boys being sent on e-mails....only the Tories!!

Meanwhile, over in the Lords, three Tory Lords have decided to call it a day so they do not have to pay tax. Lord Laidlaw, who sought treatment for sex addiction after being caught with prostitutes and who has donated £4 million to the Tory Party, has been joined by Lord McAlpine and Lord Bagri who are also multi-millionaires and have also donated millions to the Tory Party between them.

Typifying Tories everywhere, it was a choice between money or their political beliefs, and as every Tory knows, whatever the situation, money comes first.

[Jon the Hat]

In the latest YouGov poll published, the Orange Tories are now down to 15%, showing a consistent falling Orange Tory polling percentage.....single figures beckons for Clegg and his stooges.

The coalition's approval rating has dropped 4% in a couple of weeks to +11% and this is before the cuts start to bite. In fact the coalition is now more unpopular than popular with every age group except the 60 plus (who like it at a 3 to 1 ratio) which is what is keeping it in positive territory.....wait until they start axing the free bus passes and pensions.

Also....Kensington and Chelsea Tories are obviously miffed that the Bournemouth Tories had been taking the slimelight with resignations and suspensions. They have now had computer problems of their own with two councillors resigning over inappropriate images of young boys being sent on e-mails....only the Tories!!

Meanwhile, over in the Lords, three Tory Lords have decided to call it a day so they do not have to pay tax. Lord Laidlaw, who sought treatment for sex addiction after being caught with prostitutes and who has donated £4 million to the Tory Party, has been joined by Lord McAlpine and Lord Bagri who are also multi-millionaires and have also donated millions to the Tory Party between them.

Typifying Tories everywhere, it was a choice between money or their political beliefs, and as every Tory knows, whatever the situation, money comes first.

Cuts are unpopular. Like falling in the polls is a surpise. They will be back up in 4 years time, and that is all that matters.

Non-doms pay tax. just not on overseas income. Try and keep up!

[l444ry]

Cuts are unpopular. Like falling in the polls is a surpise. They will be back up in 4 years time, and that is all that matters.

Non-doms pay tax. just not on overseas income. Try and keep up!

Quite correct. Slip of the keyboard. However, they have all given up their seats in the House of Lords to become Non-Doms to avoid paying British Taxes.....Tories don't you just love em!

[Jon the Hat]

Quite correct. Slip of the keyboard. However, they have all given up their seats in the House of Lords to become Non-Doms to avoid paying British Taxes.....Tories don't you just love em!

Ashcroft hasn't.

Those in question are already non-doms, the rules have changed and they prefer to remain non-doms and resign than pay millions more in tax. I can't say I blame them, and if this is the impact of cleaning up the rules then so be it.

I never quite followed the reasons why you should have to pay UK tax on income which has nothing whatsoever to do with the UK. Fair enough you don;t want people being paid offshore for UK activities, but taxing income which is not earned here or brought here seems greedy.

[l444ry]

Ashcroft hasn't.

Those in question are already non-doms, the rules have changed and they prefer to remain non-doms and resign than pay millions more in tax. I can't say I blame them, and if this is the impact of cleaning up the rules then so be it.

I never quite followed the reasons why you should have to pay UK tax on income which has nothing whatsoever to do with the UK. Fair enough you don;t want people being paid offshore for UK activities, but taxing income which is not earned here or brought here seems greedy.

What's he got to do with the price of chips?

[Jon the Hat]

What's he got to do with the price of chips?

Contrary to the examples you have chosen, and in reaction to the same rule change, he has forgone his non-dom status to stay in the house of Lords. Sorry if that gets in the way of your sweeping generalisation about Tories - I know you enjoy them.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Ashcroft hasn't.

Those in question are already non-doms, the rules have changed and they prefer to remain non-doms and resign than pay millions more in tax. I can't say I blame them, and if this is the impact of cleaning up the rules then so be it.

I never quite followed the reasons why you should have to pay UK tax on income which has nothing whatsoever to do with the UK. Fair enough you don;t want people being paid offshore for UK activities, but taxing income which is not earned here or brought here seems greedy.

Don't agree with you for once Jon.

ALL British subjects should have to pay tax, regardless of where it is earned. Britons who earn money abroad are doing so at the expense of our own taxpayers. They could earn all their money overseas, and spend most of their time in this country, where they don't earn a penny, thus reaping the benefits, of all that taxpayers here fork out for.

These people know what they are doing, and would earn mega bucks, for peanuts.

Just not on Jon. :nono:

[Zingari]

i don't know about the rest of you but i'm pretty fooked off by this

can't they put a big tax on kiddies clothes or something ?

Budget 2011: Osborne to unveil private jet flight tax

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12813681

[Trav Le Bleu]

I will save £30 over the course of the year which is great as I can now have an extra half tank of petrol in that period!

We've never had it so good!

[l444ry]

I will save £30 over the course of the year which is great as I can now have an extra half tank of petrol in that period!

We've never had it so good!

Is that before the recent petrol hike due tor Gideon's VAT increase to 20%, Trav? Talk about giving then taking away with the other hand...!!!

[Houdini Logic]

Is that before the recent petrol hike due tor Gideon's VAT increase to 20%, Trav? Talk about giving then taking away with the other hand...!!!

Yep, can't be overly happy with a 1p a litre reduction being that their VAT increase send it up 3p a litre at the start of the year

[Trav Le Bleu]

Is that before the recent petrol hike due tor Gideon's VAT increase to 20%, Trav? Talk about giving then taking away with the other hand...!!!

Cynicism aside I am amazed at what our government can achieve. Two year ago I could only get £40 of petrol in my car and now I can get £50 of petrol in there!

The miracles of modern science!

[Houdini Logic]

Cynicism aside I am amazed at what our government can achieve. Two year ago I could only get £40 of petrol in my car and now I can get £50 of petrol in there!

The miracles of modern science!

With the government two years ago I actually had a car!

That's bordering on quantum physics

[Thracian]

10% rise in duty on all cider you fvcking ****?! And even higher rises in 'stong' cider, yeah nice one, that's some of the best boozers in Bristol probably out of business. Can this disabled not see that kids are down the park with bottles of stongbow, not milling already pretty pricey pubs drinking pints of exhibition. These blanket rises on alcohol do my nut. Tax the supermarkets, not the last of the fvcking pubs.

Couldn't agree more.

[Thracian]

Can you actually read? Did you get as far as the paragraph where it said "The Treasury is assuming that growth in the private sector will create 2.5m jobs in the next five years to compensate for the spending squeeze" So a net increase of 1.2M jobs is expected over the parliament. Or are you so blinded by your partisan hatred that your brain simply skipped over that paragraph?

Sad as it is, I think you're wasting your effort.

[l444ry]

Sad as it is, I think you're wasting your effort.

Can't understand why you have commented on a post 9 months old. But thanks for revisiting it and demonstrating how right some of us were at the time and and how slavish and foolish Jon was at the time!

The Artful Dodger, Gideon Osborne, yesterday downgraded his growth forecast for the third time since that post. Meanwhile, in the same period unemployment has risen much more than expected due to Tory cuts.

So, feel free to indicate how this the clown and his muppet government going to achieve their ridiculous targets?

Now, who was it that was partisan and blinkered?

[Trav Le Bleu]

Can't understand why you have commented on a post 9 months old. But thanks for revisiting it and demonstrating how right myself and others were and how slavish and silly Jon was at the time!

The Artful Dodger, Gideon Osborne, yesterday downgraded his growth forecast for the third time since that post. Meanwhile, the same period unemployment has risen much more than expected due to Tory cuts.

So feel free to indicate how this the clown and his muppet government going to achieve their ridiculous targets?

Now, so who was it that was partisan and blinkered?

Horses from Belgrade?

[Thracian]

Can't understand why you have commented on a post 9 months old. But thanks for revisiting it and demonstrating how right myself and others were and how slavish and silly Jon was at the time!

The Artful Dodger, Gideon Osborne, yesterday downgraded his growth forecast for the third time since that post. Meanwhile, in the same period unemployment has risen much more than expected due to Tory cuts.

So feel free to indicate how this the clown and his muppet government going to achieve their ridiculous targets?

Now, who was it that was partisan and blinkered?

After Blair and co, how anyone can refer to any Tory Artful Dodger with a straight face I don't know. Even now Labour councils are making cuts affecting people's enjoyment when it doesn't need to happen and there are contingency funds that could be used until things improved. But they prefer to do it simply for political effect. It was obvious jobs were going to keep being shed but at least this Government is going to try to create some - and in significant numbers - but I still wish they'd try harder.

Don't you get it yet? The irresponsibility of Labour spending had to be checked for everyone's sake. There's going to be all sorts of implosions soon - Portugal, Spain, Italy, perhaps even France. This isn't politics talking. This is the current price of gold and silver talking - that's right the gold Gordon sold for next to nothing.

Silver has increased in value 10% over the last 30 days and has almost doubled in price over the last year or so. Gold is up 30% and while somebelieve it cannot go any higher I've just read a four-page advert from people begging to buy it. The advert was from a business in the jewellery quarter of Birmingham. Let me say again - four full pages. Who the hell ever advertising for gold, silver etc over four pages? Why?

Because Labour, Liberal, Tory or anyone else now, the damage has been done and economies all over the place are f....d. Even China is bailing out of dollar-based investments in favour of gold and silver. Again, why?

Because inflation will run amok and the paper in your pocket will buy less and less, as has been he case since long before the Tories got into power and started trying to mend the breach in the dam. Labour politicians pretend to be friends of the motorist but fuel went up with a vengeance under them and it'll go up some more. Your car will travel less for the money you spend! Inflation.

Believe me our austerity will be as nothing to the needs of some nations. And this country should be pulling together to find and back solutions not letting Labour politicians and sympathisers like yourself knock every effort that's made. Your people had their chance and it was a long stint at the crease. Just one look at their irresponsible spending just prior to their election defeat shows their contempt for the health of this nation. They helped weaken our economy and some would say they weakened our country too.

Now it's someone else's chance and what a blessed relief that is. If, in two years time, there's no improvement in terms of economic balance, jobs, social responsibility, crime, fair reward for effort etc then I'll be as critical as any and that will be easy cos I'm not a fixed supporter of any party.

But right now I wish people would let the alliance get on with it and do their best to help. Cos the alternatives will do no-one any good except the power fanatics of Labour politics, as if most of us have not had enough.

[Sparky]

Horses from Belgrade?

[Finnegan]

After Blair and co, how anyone can refer to any Tory Artful Dodger with a straight face I don't know. Even now Labour councils are making cuts affecting people's enjoyment when it doesn't need to happen and there are contingency funds that could be used until things improved. But they prefer to do it simply for political effect. It was obvious jobs were going to keep being shed but at least this Government is going to try to create some - and in significant numbers - but I still wish they'd try harder.

I can only speak for LCC, but in regards the next period's budget they are cutting in to those reserves and they're especially hurting for it.

And as for creating jobs, the Tories have no interest in creating jobs where they matter. Admittedly Labour were very deliberate in their timing of the Working Neighbourhoods Fund and especially the Future Jobs Fund to create jobs as statistics in the build up to the election; but they were still projects that they created and invested in.

And they were amongst the first cut by the new government.

What's important, even more so during a time of economic hardship, is that resources are put in to creating jobs at the very, very bottom of the employment ladder - for people with no skills or qualifications, people who are hopelessly unemployed and draining the state with claims for benefit and the Future Jobs Fund was hugely successful in giving people short term employment and then transferring that into sustainable work.

The Conservative equivalent? Make people litter pick for their JSA. Genius.

[Jon the Hat]

I can only speak for LCC, but in regards the next period's budget they are cutting in to those reserves and they're especially hurting for it.

And as for creating jobs, the Tories have no interest in creating jobs where they matter. Admittedly Labour were very deliberate in their timing of the Working Neighbourhoods Fund and especially the Future Jobs Fund to create jobs as statistics in the build up to the election; but they were still projects that they created and invested in.

And they were amongst the first cut by the new government.

What's important, even more so during a time of economic hardship, is that resources are put in to creating jobs at the very, very bottom of the employment ladder - for people with no skills or qualifications, people who are hopelessly unemployed and draining the state with claims for benefit and the Future Jobs Fund was hugely successful in giving people short term employment and then transferring that into sustainable work.

The Conservative equivalent? Make people litter pick for their JSA. Genius.

The Budget confirmed that the first Enterprise Zones would be based within eleven LEPs led by Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham and Solihull, Sheffield, Leeds, London, the Bristol area, the Black Country, Derby and Nottingham, Teesside and the North East.

Funding for 12 further university technical colleges

Extra 40,000 apprenticeships for young people out of work

Funding for 100,000 new work experience placements

Why is it Labour policies are assumed good and Tory ones assumed spin?

[hairy]

Why is it Labour policies are assumed good and Tory ones assumed spin?

because they are full of shit