bridlington Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 on our finances, it is true that the whole thing has been a complete over-exaggeration but at the same time, yes, we are still struggling somewhat. the wage bill has already been significantly reduced, so much so that we only really need to get rid of bullard plus 1 or 2 others and we'll be ok. having said that, i'd be very surprised if we spent any money at all and pearson looks more likely when talk of compensation costing as little as £250k (although wasn't that figure in the mirror?).
ACF Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Love your optimism Thanks ): dave jones has been linked with the job for a good month or so. allegedly he had already had fall outs with the clubs new owners. i don't think there was ever any really substance in him coming to hull though. Until NOW! LEICESTER FANS, START THIS RUMOUR! We will persuade Hull to take DJ instead of out NFP! In the same style as the Babylon transfer rumour thing!
Guest Bilo Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 It's a shame your analytical skills don't stretch to posts on message boards or you'd have noticed that nobody except you and some Leicester fans are claiming Hull City are massive and going to out spend everyone. What we're saying is that the story in the press lacks some key elements that seem to have also elluded your Sherlock Holmes like deductive skills and our financial state is not as perilous as you'd like to believe and is in most respects healthier than Leicesters. When your chairman is publicly talking about CVAs, there's a problem. When your owner is talking about restructuring liabilities, there's a problem. When you're £35 million in debt, there's a problem. When you have a Premiership wage bill in this division and all of those problems together, there's a hell of a problem. What are these key elements we're missing then? They've got to be pretty damned key to overcome all of these hurdles. I'm not saying you're another Pompey or Crystal Palace, their problems are far greater, but to say you're in a better financial state than us when you aren't privy to our finances and we haven't any of the problems like the ones I've described seems a little presumptuous. Deloitte states than in the Championship you have a shortfall of around £21 million annually based on your financial situation in April. Unless I've missed something, nothing has actually changed at Hull. Your parachute payments are around £12 million a year. Thus; short of a fire sale of your players, a near freeze on new players being brought in and other restructuring, you're going to have a shortfall of around £9 million a year after the parachute payments have been made. Don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see where that can go tits up.
bridlington Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Thanks ): Until NOW! LEICESTER FANS, START THIS RUMOUR! We will persuade Hull to take DJ instead of out NFP! In the same style as the Babylon transfer rumour thing! for what its worth, jones had actually been my first choice of the names mentioned before pearson came into the frame. paul hart had been the favourite for a long time for christs sake
skegness fox Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Recently went to an after dinner night with matt le tissier and he knows NP very well and after mentioning i was a city fan he said what an excellent up and coming manager he is but also thay mandaric will not give him the finances he wants and it will only be a matter of time before he goes. But fook me HULL CITY! FOOK OFF MANDARIC YOU CVNT
Finnegan Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Effectively, yes. There are internal issues going on at the moment. And repeated by other lazy journos to be fed to the gulible and desperate. Adequate I'd say, yes. You need to get your facts right fella before you spout drivel...
ACF Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 for what its worth, jones had actually been my first choice of the names mentioned before pearson came into the frame. paul hart had been the favourite for a long time for christs sake you can take Jones, if you help my cause
kitty_katt_83 Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Well i've been searching and theres nothing in the Daily Mail Now we all know it'll be true if its in there........still hope!
Ghurkin Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 When your chairman is publicly talking about CVAs, there's a problem. When your owner is talking about restructuring liabilities, there's a problem. When you're £35 million in debt, there's a problem. When you have a Premiership wage bill in this division and all of those problems together, there's a hell of a problem. What are these key elements we're missing then? They've got to be pretty damned key to overcome all of these hurdles. I'm not saying you're another Pompey or Crystal Palace, their problems are far greater, but to say you're in a better financial state than us when you aren't privy to our finances and we haven't any of the problems like the ones I've described seems a little presumptuous. Deloitte states than in the Championship you have a shortfall of around £21 million annually based on your financial situation in April. Unless I've missed something, nothing has actually changed at Hull. Your parachute payments are around £12 million a year. Thus; short of a fire sale of your players, a near freeze on new players being brought in and other restructuring, you're going to have a shortfall of around £9 million a year after the parachute payments have been made. Don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see where that can go tits up. Which hihglights a problem of only basing an opinion on figures in the tabloids. Clearly you're desperate to believe your version, I'm more than happy with the sources of my version. It's probably best to see how things pan out rather then you showing your ignorance to people on here. Best move on I say, after all, tiny tin pot Hull seems to be the one choosing from a line up of managers, while amazingly massive, super rich Leicester seem to be rudderless. Lord knows what will happen if your chairmans court case goes against him. Still, you're financially secure...aren't you?
TigerTiger Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 When your chairman is publicly talking about CVAs, there's a problem. When your owner is talking about restructuring liabilities, there's a problem. When you're £35 million in debt, there's a problem. When you have a Premiership wage bill in this division and all of those problems together, there's a hell of a problem. What are these key elements we're missing then? They've got to be pretty damned key to overcome all of these hurdles. I'm not saying you're another Pompey or Crystal Palace, their problems are far greater, but to say you're in a better financial state than us when you aren't privy to our finances and we haven't any of the problems like the ones I've described seems a little presumptuous. Deloitte states than in the Championship you have a shortfall of around £21 million annually based on your financial situation in April. Unless I've missed something, nothing has actually changed at Hull. Your parachute payments are around £12 million a year. Thus; short of a fire sale of your players, a near freeze on new players being brought in and other restructuring, you're going to have a shortfall of around £9 million a year after the parachute payments have been made. Don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see where that can go tits up. WOW.. All the problems we have and still your manager wants to join us!! Bizarre at best.
Finnegan Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Which hihglights a problem of only basing an opinion on figures in the tabloids. Clearly you're desperate to believe your version, I'm more than happy with the sources of my version. It's probably best to see how things pan out rather then you showing your ignorance to people on here. Best move on I say, after all, tiny tin pot Hull seems to be the one choosing from a line up of managers, while amazingly massive, super rich Leicester seem to be rudderless. Lord knows what will happen if your chairmans court case goes against him. Still, you're financially secure...aren't you?
The Doctor Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Not a hoax, simply jockeying for positions. You really shouldn't take things in the press at face value, there's often more to a story. As for being better, the league seems to argue differently at the moment. how so?
Jay Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 how so? it's alphabetical at the minute isn't it? with no games played must be the answer
lovelcfc Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 no please dont go we need you however if he does tony mowbray wouldnt be bad but its in the mercury dont go its going to be a long wait untill monday
CosbehFox Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Interestingly ask on a neutral forum peoples views on it. A Cov, a Wolves and a RovRum can not understand the move of Pearson to Hull. The Wolves fan (and we are talking a bloke whose been to every league ground in the country) believes other than Leeds and Wednesday, we are probably the biggest club outside the Premiership!! Hahaha
LondonTiger Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Given a choice, who would NP rather work with? Mandaric or Adam Pearson? Personally I would choose AP, as from my dealing with him (Hull City posters will remember the Fans Liaision Committee) AP seems the more willing to be level and deal fairly of the two chairmen.
The Doctor Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 it's alphabetical at the minute isn't it? with no games played must be the answer on league standings yes but i was expecting it to be something about finances and the league since that's where i said we were better.
LondonTiger Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Interestingly ask on a neutral forum peoples views on it. A Cov, a Wolves and a RovRum can not understand the move of Pearson to Hull. The Wolves fan (and we are talking a bloke whose been to every league ground in the country) believes other than Leeds and Wednesday, we are probably the biggest club outside the Premiership!! Hahaha Well he's a Wolves fan, nothing more to say....
CosbehFox Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Was it Adam Pearson who fluffed up the Premiership season for Derby?
ts_1010 Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 As far as NP is concerned i just want confirmation either way, being left with maybes and possibles is doing my nut.
Guest Bilo Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Which hihglights a problem of only basing an opinion on figures in the tabloids. Clearly you're desperate to believe your version, I'm more than happy with the sources of my version. It's probably best to see how things pan out rather then you showing your ignorance to people on here. Best move on I say, after all, tiny tin pot Hull seems to be the one choosing from a line up of managers, while amazingly massive, super rich Leicester seem to be rudderless. Lord knows what will happen if your chairmans court case goes against him. Still, you're financially secure...aren't you? So what are these sources then? What do these sources say? Besides some cryptic references that sound for all the world like someone putting their fingers in their ears yelling I can't hear you, I see absolutely nothing but opinions and arrogance from yourself and TigerTiger to back up the theory that Hull are perfectly solvent. Whereas I've managed to find, with minimal effort, quotes from the owner, chairman and club's accountants to show that all is far from rosy in Hull's garden. We don't claim to be a massively rich club but there is some stability precisely because Mandaric is a tight-fisted twat. If Hull have managed to lure Pearson with promises of a sizeable transfer budget, then disappointment is all but certain.
LondonTiger Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 Was it Adam Pearson who fluffed up the Premiership season for Derby? Nah that was the manager.... an numpty by name of Paul Jewell wasn't it? And to a lesser extent Billy Davies, who started that season. Unlike at some clubs Adam Pearson doesn't get involved with day-to-day team management...
Ghurkin Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 So what are these sources then? What do these sources say? Besides some cryptic references that sound for all the world like someone putting their fingers in their ears yelling I can't hear you, I see absolutely nothing but opinions and arrogance from yourself and TigerTiger to back up the theory that Hull are perfectly solvent. Whereas I've managed to find, with minimal effort, quotes from the owner, chairman and club's accountants to show that all is far from rosy in Hull's garden. We don't claim to be a massively rich club but there is some stability precisely because Mandaric is a tight-fisted twat. If Hull have managed to lure Pearson with promises of a sizeable transfer budget, then disappointment is all but certain. It's alright, I'm sure the deductions of a bitter Leicester fan based on snippets and outdated press clippings have far more credibility then the people I talk to. I wonder which of our versions Nigel Pearson thinks is more accurate?
LondonTiger Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 So what are these sources then? What do these sources say? Besides some cryptic references that sound for all the world like someone putting their fingers in their ears yelling I can't hear you, I see absolutely nothing but opinions and arrogance from yourself and TigerTiger to back up the theory that Hull are perfectly solvent. Whereas I've managed to find, with minimal effort, quotes from the owner, chairman and club's accountants to show that all is far from rosy in Hull's garden. We don't claim to be a massively rich club but there is some stability precisely because Mandaric is a tight-fisted twat. If Hull have managed to lure Pearson with promises of a sizeable transfer budget, then disappointment is all but certain. Last season, things were not good with HMRC and other creditors but that was under a tit of a chairman, Duffen who as it turned out, was a complete ar$e. However Adam Pearson, although not as tight as Manderic seems to be, never spends unless he feels it right. Different tone at the KC these day, very much belt tightening at the moment, but the majority of fans trust him, which appears to be more than a lot of you Foxes do with Mandaric.
Ford Super Sunday Posted 26 June 2010 Posted 26 June 2010 I feel like I'm reading the Hull City forum, there are more of them than us.
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