Nigel Pearson to Hull ?

[Webbo]

If he does leave, it must be for lots in compo, and we get their best players

He only had 1 year left on his contract and his wages weren't that brilliant. According to the Mirror it would be around £250k.

[LondonTiger]

IMO, you're right and the only sensible Hull fan to have visited the forum.

I daresay it's the latter because of the former.

Why thank you Bilo....

However its looked at, NP wouldn't leave you unless he wasn't happy for some reason. Therefore, you all might want to ask WHY instead of having a moan about us.

I'm willing to admit there have been financial concerns here (its not often a footy club get mentioned in Private Eye's financial mismanagement columns unless there is serious problems) but as I said previously, the fans generally trust Pearson to sort it out wisely. After all, he's the man who rescued us from oblivion just 30 mins (I think) before the winding up deadline, and put the club in order and back into the Championship, which most of see as our natural place. It could be that which has seduced NP from the Foxes, AP's fair dealing around all matters regarding money.

[originallambrettaman]

Blimey, do you work for the Labour Party?

Hull almost sound stable when you put it like that. So how have you trimmed £21m off the wage bill while retaining the quality of the squad? You can't slice the wage bill in more than half without losing some quality. The wage target is £15m, and the current expenditure is £14m, giving the new manager £1m to play with and he has to factor in wages into that.

Evidently transfer fees are going to be a problem, what with being £28 million in debt, having mediocre gate receipts and that. So the analysis must be in less shit off the field but in more shit on it. I stand by what I've said, sideways step at the very best for Pearson.

The Labour Party ? Never.

I wouldn't argue with it being a sideways step, I never claimed otherwise, I was just trying to point out that we are a far better prospect than many of you seem to think.

The wage dropped automatically this month from £38m to £21m with wage relegation clauses, returning loan players and players who's contract expired or had relegation release clauses. It dropped another £4m when we sold Hunt and Mouyokolo to Wolves, Marney to Burnley and settled with Phil Brown. We had a ridiculously big squad last season, over 40 first team players, some went out on loan, but we still had a whole heap of players who got nowhere near the team, there were a dozen off them that could have left and we wouldn't even have noticed. Of those that have left, Hunt will be the biggest loss as he was our best player, but Halmosi was the best left winger in the Championship when we signed him, he was out on loan in Hungary last season, bit will now return to take Hunt's place. George Boateng was also released, but we have plenty of midfield cover and our captain who missed all last season through injured also returns. We need a new striker and possibly a right back, but outside of that we have plenty of quality and we will go into next season with one of the strongest squads. It's certainly a far better team than the one that got us promoted last time.

I don't really get your mediocre gate receipts comment, we've been sold out at 24,400 a game for the past two seasons and have planning permission for a 7,000 seat extension to the ground.

[RizLCFC]

Pearson knows what he's built at this club, he knows that we are desperate to bounce back this year after the heartache of last season, he knows the fans live and die for the club and we love him as manager so having said that if he leaves us for Hull, no disrespect to them but they're not as stable as us nor are they any better then am sorry Nigel but your a mutha fukka! Yes you've achieved alot here but you've shot us in the foot when we're down mate and frankly am absolutely distraught, gutted, angry and everything else!

[davieG]

1. Because it is all speculation at the moment, I would like to see what is being said from your media etc.

2. If he is to be our new manager, I'd like to know his strengths, weaknesses in addition to that of his backroom staff.

3. Find one post where I've gloated.

Not noticedt too much of that.

Actually we prefer to think of our visitation here as "redressing the balance".

Some (not all) of you seem to enjoy the sport of Hull-baiting (the city itself and moreover our football club), and if you want to do that, thats your choice. However you will have to expect us to come on here and put you right, so stop coming over all surprised

IMO NP would only leave Leicester ( I enjoyed visiting the city last month) if he felt he was not getting what he wanted; or had a a barney with Mandaric.

A serious question now, which is most likely of those two scenarios?

I'm not surprised but you seem to be, when these events happen it always results in these types of comments, no one ever changes their view so I really don't know why you bother to try. So don't come over all hurt about a bit of hull-baiting.

As for Pearson's reasons for leaving my thoughts are well documented in this topic but to sum up I'm sure it's more to do with what LCFC are not offering than it is to do with what Hull are offering.

I've no animosity to Pearson or Hull after all every club is guilty of having poached another manager and it's not the first time we've seen ours leave in what is arguably a sideways move, the last one to do so was McGee to Wolves that resulted in us getting Martin O'Neal oh and later on an admission from that McGee had made a big mistake in moving. Only time will tell.

Let's face is a manager's life is as much a lottery as the average football match and the grass is not always as green on the other-side as it may at first appear.

Suffice to say if he does join you you'll be getting, in spite of him jumping ship a man of integrity, hard-working, if somewhat dull (can be refreshing after the likes of Holloway & Brown). I suspect your biggest gain will be his back room staff of Shakespeare, who seems to be the tactician in the team and Walsh for his recruitment and player knowledge and nous.

A word of caution his reputation has been built on clubs in lowly positions revitalising a club relegated to the 1st Division for the first time in their history and getting them back up is a considerably different scenario to 'rescuing' a club relegated from the Premier.

[Asha]

It annoys me because it's only a sideways step at best. If he took a premier league job or something, fair enough.

But it also makes me laugh how you get people calling him a cunt and saying they're going to boo him when we play Hull etc (based on this thread and my facebook news feed ). So, completely transforming us in two years from a hopeless side relegated to League One, to a team set to (once again) challenge for the play-offs at least in the Championship?

These people really need to get a grip. Fook knows where we might have ended up were it not for Pearson. If he wants to leave for an new challenge or whatever, so be it. He'll still get a fucking round of applause from me when he comes back to the Walkers.

[muzzyisalegend]

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, so if I'm repeating what someone else has said, then sorry. I'm finding it very difficult to understand why Nige would jump ship at this stage, after all the work he's put in in turning us around. Yes, he'll have parachute payment transfer funds, but he's still gotta start all over again. My worry is probably the same as thousands of city fans - what's does Nige know that we don't?

[joely22]

18,000 last time you were in the Championship mate. The season you were promoted.

Hull are a shit club with shit fans. God only knows how they managed to get to the Premier League with that tanned twat in charge.

Astounding that Pearson would actually go to them. It has given me a giggle this morning though!

[LondonTiger]

18,000 last time you were in the Championship mate. The season you were promoted.

Well I can't argue with the stats! However thats three seasons ago, and some of those who came in while we were clogging up the PL will stay.

IF NP does leave you, crowds are more likely to drop if the team make a poor start next season. I think both teams will have about the same in terms of average attendances come the end of the season.

[CosbehFox]

1. Because it is all speculation at the moment, I would like to see what is being said from your media etc.

2. If he is to be our new manager, I'd like to know his strengths, weaknesses in addition to that of his backroom staff.

3. Find one post where I've gloated.

1. Our local press are just re-reporting yesterday's story. Our local radio correspondent reckons he broke the story going off his Twitter.....says a lot.

2. Strengths?

Organisation, tough to beat.

Possesses an assistant who has a real eye for a player. Steve Walsh, he's asst. and head of recruitment - 31 players signing under Pearson, probably be lucky if 5 were unsuccessful.

Excellent man to man management - Matty Fryatt has been a relevation since Pearson's been here.

Weaknesses?

Ability to hold something on someone. Campbell, Porter and Gradel - all left to 'rot'rather than helped.

Tactically can be cautious...4-5-1 in a home leg of a player-off was a bit of a no-no.

[LondonTiger]

Hull are a shit club with shit fans. God only knows how they managed to get to the Premier League with that tanned twat in charge.

Astounding that Pearson would actually go to them. It has given me a giggle this morning though!

Well if you want to believe that, then feel free. However, you will never catch me disrespecting your club and you people on here.

Personally I think we got promoted in spite of P Brown at times...

[CosbehFox]

Well I can't argue with the stats! However thats three seasons ago, and some of those who came in while we were clogging up the PL will stay.

IF NP does leave you, crowds are more likely to drop if the team make a poor start next season. I think both teams will have about the same in terms of average attendances come the end of the season.

It will have more to do with the criminal prices we are charging..£26 and £30 are the cheapest depending on category of fixture.

[joely22]

Well if you want to believe that, then feel free. However, you will never catch me disrespecting your club and you people on here.

Personally I think we got promoted in spite of P Brown at times...

Didn't you get promoted because of Fraizer Campbell?

[Craig]

I woke up and actually thought I'd dreamt all of this. fook sake.

DON'T GO NIGEL

[davieG]

Well if you want to believe that, then feel free. However, you will never catch me disrespecting your club and you people on here.

Personally I think we got promoted in spite of P Brown at times...

He's a Derby fan.

[CosbehFox]

I don't really get your mediocre gate receipts comment, we've been sold out at 24,400 a game for the past two seasons and have planning permission for a 7,000 seat extension to the ground.

Yes and we averaged over 30k when we're in the Premiership with rumours of 8k extension. All this talk of potential, catchment area gets 'reet up my nose. It's not there until you've achieved it.

[LondonTiger]

Not noticedt too much of that.

I'm not surprised but you seem to be, when these events happen it always results in these types of comments, no one ever changes their view so I really don't know why you bother to try. So don't come over all hurt about a bit of hull-baiting.

As for Pearson's reasons for leaving my thoughts are well documented in this topic but to sum up I'm sure it's more to do with what LCFC are not offering than it is to do with what Hull are offering.

I've no animosity to Pearson or Hull after all every club is guilty of having poached another manager and it's not the first time we've seen ours leave in what is arguably a sideways move, the last one to do so was McGee to Wolves that resulted in us getting Martin O'Neal oh and later on an admission from that McGee had made a big mistake in moving. Only time will tell.

Let's face is a manager's life is as much a lottery as the average football match and the grass is not always as green on the other-side as it may at first appear.

Suffice to say if he does join you you'll be getting, in spite of him jumping ship a man of integrity, hard-working, if somewhat dull (can be refreshing after the likes of Holloway & Brown). I suspect your biggest gain will be his back room staff of Shakespeare, who seems to be the tactician in the team and Walsh for his recruitment and player knowledge and nous.

A word of caution his reputation has been built on clubs in lowly positions revitalising a club relegated to the 1st Division for the first time in their history and getting them back up is a considerably different scenario to 'rescuing' a club relegated from the Premier.

My point was that instead of pointing the finger at us, it could be revealing to find out what has made him consider leaving in a 'sideways' move. Agreed, we're not quite as big as you, and our financial situation isn't great, but given everything, surely NP would have been better served staying with you? This is what I would be looking at if I was in your position.

[LondonTiger]

Didn't you get promoted because of Fraizer Campbell?

Well you could look at it that way... but that ungrateful boy went off to Sunderland after that. But yes, I think the goals he got made one hell of a difference.

[originallambrettaman]

Didn't you get promoted because of Fraizer Campbell?

No, he has ten other blokes with him at all times !

Dean Windass, Caleb Folan, Ian Ashbee, Wayne Brown and Michael Turner were just as important.

And Jay Jay was the coolest.

[ACF]

£250k unfortunately.

Our transfer budget just doubled.

He only had 1 year left on his contract and his wages weren't that brilliant. According to the Mirror it would be around £250k.

Well, I personally believe that they (Hull) would put us in a lot more trouble than what 250K is worth.

[davieG]

My point was that instead of pointing the finger at us, it could be revealing to find out what has made him consider leaving in a 'sideways' move. Agreed, we're not quite as big as you, and our financial situation isn't great, but given everything, surely NP would have been better served staying with you? This is what I would be looking at if I was in your position.

If we could we would but you should know it's impossible to look into any club to find out what's happening, that's why forums thrive and why they are full of so much, speculation, rumour, bullshit, oneupmanship, gloating, counter gloating etc.

But this is a LCFC forum and people are feeling hurt and therefore you shouldn't be surprised at, in your case a bit of Hull baiting that is no worse than you'd get at one of your games. As I said I'm not surprised but you lot seem to be.

I don't think anyone's pointing a finger at Hull as such, well not in the normal' they've poached our manager' they're, rightly surprised but then there's many on here that thinks Mandaric is Leicester City's biggest football fan, most wont disparage Pearson after what he's achieved so they go all defensive and attack the only target left - Hull City.

Hardly a surprise!

[morris1234]

No, he has ten other blokes with him at all times !

Dean Windass, Caleb Folan, Ian Ashbee, Wayne Brown and Michael Turner were just as important.

And Jay Jay was the coolest.

thats 6 players then mate!

[Babylon]

I'm not sure why MM is taking souch of a hammering for not "giving him what he wants". At the end of the day finances are tight here, we all knew that before this happened. They are trying to bring in mew investment so we can compete, but until that happens we need to tighten our belts and attempt to run the club on an even financial basis.

We then have a manager who it seems is not prepared to do that. A man who seemingly wants more money for himself and more money to keep the team together and strengthen.

Of course we all want that, but if the money is not there what can the club do? Do we borrow more money to satisfy the manager holding us to ransom, there are no guarantees of promotion had we backed him, the only thing certain is that we would be close to being up shot creek without a paddle.

If there is more to this other than finances then fine, if not I think we're seeing Pearsons true colours. Which I'll come to later when I'm not typing my phone!!

[originallambrettaman]

Yes and we averaged over 30k when we're in the Premiership with rumours of 8k extension. All this talk of potential, catchment area gets 'reet up my nose. It's not there until you've achieved it.

Indeed, but I think you'll find with only 24,400 seats, you can only sell 24,400 tickets, we could achieve no more.

[LondonTiger]

If we could we would but you should know it's impossible to look into any club to find out what's happening, that's why forums thrive and why they are full of so much, speculation, rumour, bullshit, oneupmanship, gloating, counter gloating etc.

But this is a LCFC forum and people are feeling hurt and therefore you shouldn't be surprised at, in your case a bit of Hull baiting that is no worse than you'd get at one of your games. As I said I'm not surprised but you lot seem to be.

I don't think anyone's pointing a finger at Hull as such, well not in the normal' they've poached our manager' they're, rightly surprised but then there's many on here that thinks Mandaric is Leicester City's biggest football fan, most wont disparage Pearson after what he's achieved so they go all defensive and attack the only target left - Hull City.

Hardly a surprise!

True, I know how much we were annoyed when Palace took Peter Taylor from us... mind you he said he had no intention of leaving, then they came calling! I can't remember what we did though. But yes, I can understand how you feel about us and I don't blame you one bit.