Promotion?

[artursteppe]

We are 8 points off second spot. In real terms ( if Watford and Forest both got some points from their games in hand ) we are also 8 points off seventh. What do you all make of that?

[purpleronnie]

Oh ****!

[cc_star]

We are 8 points off second spot. In real terms ( if Watford and Forest both got some points from their games in hand ) we are also 8 points off seventh. What do you all make of that?

It's all largely irrelevant

We need 70 points + which means we need to do better than we have been doing, the new signings could get us to 5th/6th, automatic is way off, unless this season ends with record low points requirement to finish 2nd

[artursteppe]

It's all largely irrelevant

We need 70 points + which means we need to do better than we have been doing, the new signings could get us to 5th/6th, automatic is way off, unless this season ends with record low points requirement to finish 2nd

OK, so if 2nd, 3rd, down to 7th have the same points as each other over half way through the season , why can't they,( or even add some more teams ), have the same number of points by the end of the season? Just 'cos it's never happened before?? The point I am making is this: - there is no difference now between 2nd and 7th and it is entirely possible that the same situation could exist at the end of the season, therefore I reckon if we can get into the play-offs, maybe we can still get automatic promotion with a few extra points. Why just glibly say we can reach 5th or 6th with no apparent reason, is it because it simply sounds good.

[Donatello]

OK, so if 2nd, 3rd, down to 7th have the same points as each other over half way through the season , why can't they,( or even add some more teams ), have the same number of points by the end of the season? Just 'cos it's never happened before?? The point I am making is this: - there is no difference now between 2nd and 7th and it is entirely possible that the same situation could exist at the end of the season, therefore I reckon if we can get into the play-offs, maybe we can still get automatic promotion with a few extra points. Why just glibly say we can reach 5th or 6th with no apparent reason, is it because it simply sounds good.

It's all very exciting that so many teams are still in with a chance with very few points separating the league and each team having the ability to beat each other. However, it's still a bit early to be talking of promotion don't you think? We've just done really well to take 6 points off an away game and against a team in the top 4, but we may suffer a suprise against Preston!? It might be easy with 'a few extra points' but we may also lose a few extra points!

[Jordan]

I don't understand why your method of evening the games played allows for Watford and Forest to pick up points in their games in hand but not QPR, Cardiff and Norwich. Also, if all teams stay on their season-long form, then Leicester would most likely be 15th, behind Derby, Doncaster and Barnsley, and only be slightly closer to reaching the playoffs than they would be the drop zone.

[DB11]

Where's the poll?

[broughtonblue]

Oh ****!

This

[artursteppe]

I don't understand why your method of evening the games played allows for Watford and Forest to pick up points in their games in hand but not QPR, Cardiff and Norwich. Also, if all teams stay on their season-long form, then Leicester would most likely be 15th, behind Derby, Doncaster and Barnsley, and only be slightly closer to reaching the playoffs than they would be the drop zone.

I was making a general comment, but I can be pedantic too. If Watford and Forest got their average points in their games in hand, they would both have 42 points, and yes if Norwich and Cardiff got their average points as well, they would both have 44/45. So there could be six teams with just two points between them - rather than them all having 43 points ( the same number ). You need a laxative!

[cc_star]

OK, so if 2nd, 3rd, down to 7th have the same points as each other over half way through the season , why can't they,( or even add some more teams ), have the same number of points by the end of the season? Just 'cos it's never happened before?? The point I am making is this: - there is no difference now between 2nd and 7th and it is entirely possible that the same situation could exist at the end of the season, therefore I reckon if we can get into the play-offs, maybe we can still get automatic promotion with a few extra points. Why just glibly say we can reach 5th or 6th with no apparent reason, is it because it simply sounds good.

Games in hand will come into play, not all, but some of the teams will pick up a few points making the current narrow gap slightly wider.

And don't forget they're above us whilst having played less games for a reason

We need to hit Championship winning form in every single game? Do you think we're good enough for that? IMO we're several signings away from being Championship winners (which is what we need to be from now on)

It could however, be a record low points scoring year which could help us out in our quest but I think Sven has his eyes on a few more signings, which equals more settiling in periods and more time to mesh as a team... All the signs point to a transitional season but with added pressure from the owners & expectation from us fans.

Of course I'd love to go up & you can't pick & choose what season you do it in, so fingers crossed, let's aim high but with an added dose of realism about our points total Vs what's required & our goals against column & the fact it's rare for a what's probably going to be loads of signings to mesh in a team which needs to hit 1.9pts per game from here on in

[Guest BlueBrett]

What's all this? I thought we were going to win the league

[Leicester_Loyal]

Who cares

[Jordan]

I was making a general comment, but I can be pedantic too. If Watford and Forest got their average points in their games in hand, they would both have 42 points, and yes if Norwich and Cardiff got their average points as well, they would both have 44/45. So there could be six teams with just two points between them - rather than them all having 43 points ( the same number ). You need a laxative!

Really? You're just going to be a dick like that? You started a nerdy thread, I make a couple of comments--not having a go at you at all--about the assumptions in your methodology, then you out-pedant me--and you're telling me that I need to loosen up? Please.

You mentioned second place several times, so although it's sort of sad that we (myself included) are writing all these posts imagining what the table could look like, it's only fair that I mentioned that you should account for the teams around the auto-promotion spot. And there is enough of a difference between 6th and 2nd: on average, about 2.5 points if all games are level, plus four teams that could go on better form.

cc_star mentioned that this could be a record low points total: well, if form keeps up, then yes and no. The top two look set for abnormally low points totals. However, Nottingham Forest are still on pace to finish with 74 points in 6th place which is not a low total relative to past seasons. But as cc_star mentioned, if form plays out then like Leicester would have to finish the season with around the same results as what QPR have averaged hitherto just to finish in 6th. And to that, I agree: that's quite a big task to ask of Leicester... And with so many teams between Leicester and the playoff spots, if they want to finish 6th then they must go on that kind of a run, as it's unlikely that every team ahead of them is going to have a drop in form.

Believe me, I'd be thrilled if Leicester can get anywhere in the top six this season, but part of the thrill would come from knowing that such an achievement came against huge odds. Even with a good but not world-beating finish, I still think Leicester will be playing in the Championship once again next season.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Really? You're just going to be a dick like that? You started a nerdy thread, I make a couple of comments--not having a go at you at all--about the assumptions in your methodology, then you out-pedant me--and you're telling me that I need to loosen up? Please.

You mentioned second place several times, so although it's sort of sad that we (myself included) are writing all these posts imagining what the table could look like, it's only fair that I mentioned that you should account for the teams around the auto-promotion spot. And there is enough of a difference between 6th and 2nd: on average, about 2.5 points if all games are level, plus four teams that could go on better form.

cc_star mentioned that this could be a record low points total: well, if form keeps up, then yes and no. The top two look set for abnormally low points totals. However, Nottingham Forest are still on pace to finish with 74 points in 6th place which is not a low total relative to past seasons. But as cc_star mentioned, if form plays out then like Leicester would have to finish the season with around the same results as what QPR have averaged hitherto just to finish in 6th. And to that, I agree: that's quite a big task to ask of Leicester... And with so many teams between Leicester and the playoff spots, if they want to finish 6th then they must go on that kind of a run, as it's unlikely that every team ahead of them is going to have a drop in form.

Believe me, I'd be thrilled if Leicester can get anywhere in the top six this season, but part of the thrill would come from knowing that such an achievement came against huge odds. Even with a good but not world-beating finish, I still think Leicester will be playing in the Championship once again next season.

Good post Jordan. You sum up all the problems that City actually face in order to even achieve the play-offs. Whilst not impossible, it will be very difficult and like many others I would dismiss automatic promotion out of hand.

[Legend_in_blue]

The championship next season will be a lot like last season.

Stronger than it is now.

The only realistic target for the remainder of this season is to take as many points as possible at home and try to stop letting goals in away from home.

If this gives us a fair crack at 6th, fair enough, if not, I'll not lose any sleep over it.

In fact, if we miss out we can all gloat about the fact that we gave the league a 9 game headstart and still almost managed the play-offs.

[zynxus]

if you look at how the table stands since sven (post sousa) leicester city are top with 30 points in 16 games! with swansea second on 28.... if that top of the table form continues until the end of the season we have a realistic shot at auto promotion... season form is irrelevant as sousa isnt here anymore...and sven is.

[Haydos]

if that top of the table form continues until the end of the season we have a realistic shot at auto promotion

We. Don't.

I'm not being a killjoy by any means and I still think we have a shout of reaching the playoffs. But before posting stuff like this, take some time to look at the 'form under Sven threads'. We were left so far behind by Sousa that even if we continue with the current form, we're still due to total under 70 points which is barely a regular play-offs total.

I don't know the basis for conjuring up assumptions like this

[Gazza M]

To have a realistic chance of automatic promotion I think we will need to get 80 points. That's another 45 points from 20 games. So we are going to probably be looking at 14 wins and 3 draws with the comfort of being able to lose 3. I just don't see it. I don't believe the current crop are good enough to do that. Two reasons why. We don't score enough goals and we aren't tight enough in defence.

However I believe that 72 points will be enough to get us in 6th place. That is obviously 37 points from 20 games. Sven has managed 30 points from 17 games so far, so if we carry on the way we are going at the moment, we should just about achieve this.

If only we had Sven from the seasons start. I think we would have strolled to automatic promotion with anyone worth his salt in charge from the off!!! Unfortunately the deficit that Sousa left was just too great for me.

[topharry123]

If we can carry on with the form since Sven we would be sat at around 72-73 points. This would probably get us into the play offs this year but it's a number that would sometimes get us in and sometimes not. The question is can we carry on that form? If the posts are correct and we are the form team since Sven took over, can we really be the best team in the division for another 20 games? I'm not sure we can. We can forget about automatic promotion, I just can't see it happening. However, there's no reason why we cannot reach the play offs this year. We may only need 65-70 to make them looking at how tight the table is now so it's a possibility. I think it's too early to tell anything at this point, we can hope but there's bound to be a lot of change in the rest of the season so this thread might be more relevant come mid April time.

[The Padster]

Stats don't count for shit on game day.

Games in hand mean squat until you've got the points on the board.

It ain't over till it's over.

And that's how I roll.

[the_foxes_till_i_die]

Stats don't count for shit on game day.

Games in hand mean squat until you've got the points on the board.

It ain't over till it's over.

And that's how I roll.

:appl:

[Salieri]

When we win a game we are all optimistic and looking towards the Play Offs.

When we lose a game we are looking over our shoulders and worrying about a relegation fight.

When we draw, meh, mid table finish.

That's how it seems at the moment.

The Cup tomorrow is a welcome distraction.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

We have no chance of promotion this season in my opinion ( i really hope they prove me wrong though obviously) but i thing gearing uo for a real push from the off next season is whats its all about realistically - either way up the City in Sven we trust :sge: :sge: :sge:

[MC Prussian]

QPR losing Mackie for the rest of the campaign because of a double leg break in the FA Cup tie with Blackburn, Warnock calling it a "massive blow to their promotion hopes".

See what just happened?

This Championship season just got a tad more unpredictable.

Even we can still make it to the top. All you need is an unbeaten stretch over at least five, six matches and all of a sudden, boom! tash! - back in the playoff picture.