Brainy Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Maybe Really happy with Qualifying though. Confident Fernando can kill Vettel right at the start. Ferrari are back and in with the best chance of winning this weekend. Fail to do so, and I can't see anything other than a Vettel championship. It's times like these on tracks where Red Bull aren't completely dominating that the opportunities need to be taken to close the gap. Maybe? denial much? You know damn well he would have taken pole, he's a giant idiot for not taking the short line.
stix Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Anyone know when qually highlights will be up on BBC Sport? They are up on the iplayer if you havent already seen them
Jimothy Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Not F1, but Allan McNish an ex-F1 driver and I didn't think it was worth starting a general motor sport thread. Anyway he's a lucky bloke after this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jnibRyrK-o
Haydos Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 They are up on the iplayer if you havent already seen them Yeah man, seen em now, cheers anyway.
StanSP Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 I said on my Twitter after seeing McNish's crash that it was stunningly destructive and that he was lucky to walk away from that. It was monumental when he collided with the wall. Also lucky that no-one else was injured with a tyre and debris flying all over the place.
Jimothy Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 I said on my Twitter after seeing McNish's crash that it was stunningly destructive and that he was lucky to walk away from that. It was monumental when he collided with the wall. Also lucky that no-one else was injured with a tyre and debris flying all over the place. It was almost like the car went over the wall and then by some miracle came back over and land track side. Could have been serious injuries had it landed amongst all the stewards and photographers.
anotherharboroughfox Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Maybe Really happy with Qualifying though. Confident Fernando can kill Vettel right at the start. Ferrari are back and in with the best chance of winning this weekend. Fail to do so, and I can't see anything other than a Vettel championship. It's times like these on tracks where Red Bull aren't completely dominating that the opportunities need to be taken to close the gap. I agree, Ferrari's have been quick of the line recently.
anotherharboroughfox Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 I said on my Twitter after seeing McNish's crash that it was stunningly destructive and that he was lucky to walk away from that. It was monumental when he collided with the wall. Also lucky that no-one else was injured with a tyre and debris flying all over the place. The prototype cars are designed to fall apart when they crash, to dissapaite the energy of the crash away from the driver, whereas the GT cars just have roll cages so a GT car driver would have come of considerably worse. Still a huge crash all the same though.
Finnegan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 DC. "The only German I know I learned from DVDs when I was younger." Vettel: "You'll have to send me those DVDs"
lcfcadam Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Absolute joke, starting behind the safety car. Nail in the coffin for Formula One being described as a "sport" in my opinion...
Haydos Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Absolute joke, starting behind the safety car. Nail in the coffin for Formula One being described as a "sport" in my opinion... Surely what's happened since has justified their decision?
lcfcadam Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Surely what's happened since has justified their decision? We went for years with races starting normally in very wet conditions, this whole "behind the safety car" thing has only come in fairly recently as far as I know. The challenge of driving well and avoiding incidents in the rain is a whole part of motor-racing, so why would we want it removed? What's happened since the start is all part of the excitement of watching F1 - no one's died or gone to hospital, just a couple of racing incidents provoked in part by the weather, nothing wrong with that in my book...
Finnegan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Given how exciting the racing has been this season, can you really justify having a moan about having to start behind the safety car in very wet conditions? In other news, Hamilton has DEFINITELY lost the plot. There's a clear difference between being intelligently aggressive and simply being moronic.
Dylan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 ****s sake Hamilton... already out Up to Button to salvage something.... Vettel's running away with this Championship.
Haydos Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 We went for years with races starting normally in very wet conditions, this whole "behind the safety car" thing has only come in fairly recently as far as I know. The challenge of driving well and avoiding incidents in the rain is a whole part of motor-racing, so why would we want it removed? What's happened since the start is all part of the excitement of watching F1 - no one's died or gone to hospital, just a couple of racing incidents provoked in part by the weather, nothing wrong with that in my book... I don't particularly agree with it but their trying to get as many cars racing and finishing as possible. If it was all about entertainment, fair enough, and there'd be a load of other things to be changed as well but from the race director's point of view that's not his number one priority. Hamilton.....the Webber incident, fair enough but there just wasn't the room or time to pass Button there. Moronic.
lcfcadam Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Oh FOR GOODNESS' SAKE, safety car back out AGAIN because of a ****ing shower?! F1 is turning into Indycar, they may as well just stop racing in the wet altogether. Wet weather driving used to be a skill, with magnificent performances from the likes of Michael Schumacher in treacherous conditions. The FIA, FIFA - all these ludicrous organisations are as bad as each other
Finnegan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Oh FOR GOODNESS' SAKE, safety car back out AGAIN because of a ****ing shower?! F1 is turning into Indycar, they may as well just stop racing in the wet altogether. Wet weather driving used to be a skill, with magnificent performances from the likes of Michael Schumacher in treacherous conditions. The FIA, FIFA - all these ludicrous organisations are as bad as each other The drivers themselves don't want to drive in this. What do you want? More deaths?
Haydos Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 The drivers themselves don't want to drive in this. What do you want? More deaths? You're not going to get deaths at this speed Safety car is pointless. Red flag it and restart shortly. I don't know why they can't change the procedure and keep them racing at a slow speed. it's still a race and if they can't keep it on the track at 80mph then that's their fault.
lcfcadam Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 The drivers themselves don't want to drive in this. What do you want? More deaths? Deaths? My knowledge of Formula One history is not great but I can't recall very many deaths in the past resulting from crashes provoked by wet weather. In all seriousness, if holding races in the wet is no longer viable in the modern world then why don't they just get rid of wet weather racing altogether? Oh and by the way Eddie Jordan and Martin Brundle appear to agree with me, and I think their knowledge of the sport is rather better than any of ours...
The Doctor Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Hamilton is a ****. And adam, did you not see how bad some of the cornering was, even with the track fairly dry? Having the race go as normal in this would be asking for trouble.
Finnegan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 There've been plenty of good wet races over the last few years, this is just a little bit ridiculous is all. You heard Button and Vettel both say it's basically undriveable.
Haydos Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 It's not a race track any more! Hopefully it stops pretty soon.
Finnegan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 And you want to listen to DC, not Brundle and Jordan. He might seem a little bit boring and miserable at times but he's the one with real, modern experience in driving and he's right in what he says. Keep in mind that a lot of the Asian circuits are used to wet racing, that just isn't the case with the North American venues. This is unexpected and they lack the same contingency.
lcfcadam Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 Okay fair enough, its now become completely impossible and they're probably doing the right thing stopping it for a while in the hope that it clears up. But I maintain it should NEVER have been started under the safety car.
Finnegan Posted 12 June 2011 Posted 12 June 2011 AAAARRRGHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT NOISE. If you want to rant about something, rant about it being 2011 and the BBC having that level of fucking technical failure. JESUS MY EARS.
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