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I've noticed when the opposition have a corner, we pull everyone back into our area. So when the ball is cleared (hopefully) it comes straight back at us. Surely we should leave at least one person up front to try to win it and hold up play to allow us to push up and reorganise back to our correct positions?

Posted

Your definitely not the only person to notice this.

I strongly believe we should leave one person up- even if its someone like Dyer/Vassell who are not really going to contribute a lot in the air.

And plus, if you leave one up, two have to stay with him- and we have a chance of countering and not having it come straight back at us.

Posted

I never really noticed peoples defencive corner tactics other than whether they have 0, 1 or 2 on the post(s) but last year I noticed Mourinho left 3 men up on the halfway linefor Inter Vs Barca this meant the opposing centre-halves & at least 1 or maybe 2 others had to hang back.

Worth a thought

Posted

Away to manu and holding on for a draw..........................

Hang on...............

We were at home to coventry...............

Posted

I never really noticed peoples defencive corner tactics other than whether they have 0, 1 or 2 on the post(s) but last year I noticed Mourinho left 3 men up on the halfway linefor Inter Vs Barca this meant the opposing centre-halves & at least 1 or maybe 2 others had to hang back.

These tactics are awesome, prevents other team getting men in box. We should keep vassell and dyer on half way as they have pace and are of little arieal presence.

Posted

One of the things we've been gash at this season is defending set pieces. By crowding the area we give ourselves a better chance of not conceding. Yes when the ball is cleared it may come straight back, but a ball from deep is easier to defend against (stepping out for offside etc) and gives us a better chance of winning back possession.

Personally dont see this as a strange tactic just one that means we wont concede from a corner.

Posted

These tactics are awesome, prevents other team getting men in box. We should keep vassell and dyer on half way as they have pace and are of little arieal presence.

We could leave Ricardo on the halfway line as he has little effect at corners/crosses

Posted

I've been saying this for so long, and this happened under Pearson too.

It's not even over-defensiveness it's just stupidity, if you clear the ball with everyone back then 99 times out of 100 you've lost it, get Dyer or Vassell (whichever is on) on the half way line to try and retrieve it, possibly outpacing their furthest man back for a superb counter, whilst also pulling back from the box at least one of their players.

It's common sense tactics IMO.

Posted

Isn't a strange tactic at all. It is used a lot in football now. Slur Alex even uses it at Man Utd,

Posted

This has been going on for a while, and I still don't see the point of it.

Leave one or two players up. The opposition will have to keep three or four players back to defend the possible breakaway.

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This has been going on for a while, and I still don't see the point of it.

Leave one or two players up. The opposition will have to keep three or four players back to defend the possible breakaway.

Arguably it gives us a better chance of counter-attacking - we want them leaving as few players back as possible - e.g. the nailed-on Dyer penalty against Millwall that wasn't given came about from one such barnstorming counter-attack.

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Arguably it gives us a better chance of counter-attacking - we want them leaving as few players back as possible - e.g. the nailed-on Dyer penalty against Millwall that wasn't given came about from one such barnstorming counter-attack.

I hadn't thought about it like that but that actually makes a lot of sense and in a way has more benefits.

It should yield a defensive improvement and if you've got quick players who are used to playing a passing game you're bound to get a good couple of chances to counter when someone sticks most of their team in the box.

Posted

Not only does leaving a quick man on the halfway line give you a counter attacking option, but it usually also takes 2 opposition players out of the Corner/Free kick situation as they are also on the halfway line covering the attacking player.

Leave Dyer/Vassell (or anyone who can run at the defenders with a bit of skill and/or pace) there in my opinion, if they cant break on the counter themselves, they can at least hold the ball up until the midfield start to get forward.

Never see the point of everyone behind the ball as you're inviting the opposition to continue pressuring even ifyou get a good clearnace on the corner/free kick

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