Guest Bilo Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCgERAD9LQs&feature=player_embedded Absolutely disgraceful. What the hell people get from spoiling a minute's silence deliberately in this way I'll never know.
Finnegan Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 It amazes me the amount of Americans that still think Pearl Harbour is a justifiable reason to hate the Japanese. You'd swear Nagasaki, Hiroshima and an almost Nazi-esque policy of internment never happened.
Guest Bilo Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Just sheer ignorance isn't it? When you look at the way the Japanese were portrayed in American propaganda during the war it wasn't a million miles away from the way the Jews were portrayed in the Third Reich, and obviously some of those attitudes still persist among some American fans. Let's face it, they're hardly renowned for having an extensive knowledge of global affairs so for many Americans the only thing they think of when they hear the word 'Japan' is 'Pearl Harbour.' The really depressing thing is that it hasn't even been reported here. This was almost a week ago and we haven't heard a sniff in the British media as we did when a much smaller group of Celtic fans disrupted a Remembrance Day silence.
purpleronnie Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 There was 80,000 and how many shouted something a handful? Not that its right but theres always someone who has a bit too much to drink, for the vast majority they did respect it.
Webbo Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 The really depressing thing is that it hasn't even been reported here. This was almost a week ago and we haven't heard a sniff in the British media as we did when a much smaller group of Celtic fans disrupted a Remembrance Day silence. Tbf there weren't that many people breaking the silence and it's not really news.
purpleronnie Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 The really depressing thing is that it hasn't even been reported here. This was almost a week ago and we haven't heard a sniff in the British media as we did when a much smaller group of Celtic fans disrupted a Remembrance Day silence. But celtic is a british (ha) club so of course that would make the news, I don't know why a few odd people shouting something in a crowd of 80000 during a friendly match in the USA would make the news over here? I doubt you'll find a minutes silence better observed than that one outside the uk.
Guest Bilo Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Of course it's a minority, but it's hardly a handful of people. We're talking hundreds of people from the sounds of things as opposed to a couple of dozen.
Webbo Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Of course it's a minority, but it's hardly a handful of people. We're talking hundreds of people from the sounds of things as opposed to a couple of dozen. Hard to tell but it didn't sound like that to me.
purpleronnie Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Hard to tell but it didn't sound like that to me. Me neither hardly heard anyone.
lcfcadam Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Disgraceful, good job the ref realised what was going on and ended it early. I'm doing a university module on contemporary america at the moment, and whilst I can't deny I love the place, it quickly becomes clear when you do a bit of research that there are massive swathes of that society that still live in the cultural / social dark ages. That said, it's not out the question that the people in this particular vid were just really pissed, that's their best defence I guess...
Asha Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 I wonder how many more people broke the silence in our game with Derby
Vacamion Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 I have a problem with the enforced mourning of "2 minutes silence" wherever it is suggested. If people wish to reflect and contemplate, fine, but why do we have a social norm that imposes communal mourning? It's not as if the dead can hear you... Also, you can never be sure that behind the outward show of silence people are actually concentrating on the task in hand, so if you DO believe that the dead really care about a minute's silence, isn't the whole thing undermined by fact that some people amongst the silent crowd are thinking about what they'll have for tea, mentally undressing the woman opposite or worrying about an itch? Besides, there's always some tool who can't keep his mouth shut. Then others make noise shushing them. People are strange creatures.
purpleronnie Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 I thought most Americans were respectful. They clearly are.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Not surprised really, its just the fact it is Japan which was affected. I wouldnt have expected them to even have a minute's silence.
ozleicester Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 There are knob ends the world over. I dont think given our recent poor attempts to maintain silence (the Derby games springs to mind) that we can judge "Americans".
acooling08 Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Out of however many fans in that huge stadium there's bound to be a handful of fans who were drunk, a bit mentally unstable, and lost their favourite grandpappy to the Japs in WW2 who were ignorant enough to shout out stuff.
Mack Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 I would'nt credit the handful of idiots that shouted out during the silence with the intelligence to dislike Japan because of any historical events. They are just pricks, and every team and every nation has them. Just look at what Celtic fans have done in the past.
Guest Bilo Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Not really intelligence is it? It's like some England fans who still think 10 German Bombers is OK to sing 66 years after WWII ended.
Finnegan Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 I would'nt credit the handful of idiots that shouted out during the silence with the intelligence to dislike Japan because of any historical events. They are just pricks, and every team and every nation has them. Just look at what Celtic fans have done in the past. Yes but Celtic's fans aren't doing it "for the sakes of it" and nor are these idiots. I'm not saying either group are justified but it's not just a random happening either. There's a lot of ill feeling towards the Japanese in Conservative, jingoist America dating back to the war. Social networking sites like Facebook have been full of thick, American morons saying horrendous things in the wake of the disaster. Although, admittedly, nothing as terrible as the Mayor of Tokyo.
Mack Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Yes but Celtic's fans aren't doing it "for the sakes of it" and nor are these idiots. I'm not saying either group are justified but it's not just a random happening either. There's a lot of ill feeling towards the Japanese in Conservative, jingoist America dating back to the war. In Celtic's case it's probably a couple of hateful bastards that start it and the rest of the ****** join in foaming at the mouth with delight.
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