MC Prussian Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 To be fair, knowing that many African teams cheat their players' age, something inside me is asking itself whether Yakubu's really only 28 years old - he does often limp around like a striker past his best. As if he was already past his early 30ies. I think he has a great touch still and above-average vision, but his poor effort in getting the ball and the lack of speed put a rather bad image over the positives.
acooling08 Posted 22 April 2011 Author Posted 22 April 2011 Has anyone played well consistently in these last 11 games though? A fair few have, Naughton and Wellens spring to mind. The thing is though is that the other players still give it 100% and put themselves about a bit. The yak just jogs around in such a carefree manner. As others have said, when he isn't scoring, he isn't doing anything.
Charl91 Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 He had a few one-on-ones, but he just doesn't have the pace anymore
gazzer Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 He is so wasteful of chances and contributes nothing AT ALL outside of the opposing half. He has only scored in 1 game out of his last 11 games!! I'd love to meet you in person. Would be magical.
martyn Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 His lack of work rate puts pressure on the midfield as opposition defenders have all the time in the world to launch attacks. This wouldn't necessarily be a problem if he was able to hold the ball up but unfortunately, he generally allows the ball to bounce off him, or allows defenders to get in front of him as he is chronically lacking in fitness/sharpness. He's also been far from clinical in front of goal, considering the chances he's had. I'm sure our lack of defending from the front and lack of ability to keep the ball in forward areas has had a negative impact upon our midfield whose contribution has fallen off alarmingly. I'd take a hard working, mobile striker over Yak, even if it meant a slightly lower strike rate as ultimately, these qualities will benefit the team far more.
ScouseFox Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 A fair few have, Naughton and Wellens spring to mind. The thing is though is that the other players still give it 100% and put themselves about a bit. The yak just jogs around in such a carefree manner. As others have said, when he isn't scoring, he isn't doing anything. Naughton I'll give you, but Wellens has been gash for at least half of this run. Basically people want scapegoats when things go wrong, and Yakubu not flying into tackles and covering every blade of grass makes him a very easy scapegoat. You could just as easily look at Weale, King, Bamba, or the team collectively. The team are in a bad run, so we're not winning, it's not solely because Yakubu doesn't close down the keeper from back passes. If you look at his scoring record, it's better than any striker we've had for a good 5 or so years.
themotivator Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 yakubu was marked to death today, like he is every game. it has been said a million times before that he is a dangerous player who other defenses are scared, giving other players like galagher and kamara and the midfield space. he is not a terrier like ball chaser or a sprinter. i do think he has had some poor games and should not be immune from being dropped, but still believe he has enough quality to warrant a place above waghorn or howard. i really dont see the use of continually slating one of our own players. i hope he manages to re-create some of the form that he has shown glimpses of again before he leaves leicester, whenever that may be. he was pretty guff today though.
Kitchandro Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 His lack of work rate puts pressure on the midfield as opposition defenders have all the time in the world to launch attacks. This wouldn't necessarily be a problem if he was able to hold the ball up but unfortunately, he generally allows the ball to bounce off him, or allows defenders to get in front of him as he is chronically lacking in fitness/sharpness. He's also been far from clinical in front of goal, considering the chances he's had. I'm sure our lack of defending from the front and lack of ability to keep the ball in forward areas has had a negative impact upon our midfield whose contribution has fallen off alarmingly. I'd take a hard working, mobile striker over Yak, even if it meant a slightly lower strike rate as ultimately, these qualities will benefit the team far more. This
Brown Fox Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Was Marshall in our end? Yeah he was! Brought loads of his kids from his Canadian football camp. They were on right side corner first few rows
Kitchandro Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Naughton I'll give you, but Wellens has been gash for at least half of this run. Basically people want scapegoats when things go wrong, and Yakubu not flying into tackles and covering every blade of grass makes him a very easy scapegoat. You could just as easily look at Weale, King, Bamba, or the team collectively. The team are in a bad run, so we're not winning, it's not solely because Yakubu doesn't close down the keeper from back passes. If you look at his scoring record, it's better than any striker we've had for a good 5 or so years. Collectively yes, we've not been good enough, and other individuals, King especially have been just as bad in the past 11 games or so. But does that make Yakubu any less crap? It's not scapegoating, I could criticise a lot of players, but Yakubu will always be a big talking point because he's our main striker, is our most high profile player and is being paid the most. He's not delivered as much as I would have expected. TBF, after his first 5 games he's contributed very little
themotivator Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 fair enough giving him flack for shoddy performances but saying he has no place in the team is pretty silly.
ScouseFox Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Collectively yes, we've not been good enough, and other individuals, King especially have been just as bad in the past 11 games or so. But does that make Yakubu any less crap? It's not scapegoating, I could criticise a lot of players, but Yakubu will always be a big talking point because he's our main striker, is our most high profile player and is being paid the most. He's not delivered as much as I would have expected. TBF, after his first 5 games he's contributed very little Well taking today as an example, the midfield wasn't up to much, thus Yakubu had no service or support at all really. That said, he was pretty poor. Nothing went right. He's not been brilliant since Boro, but we've got nothing better, have we?
Kitchandro Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 fair enough giving him flack for shoddy performances but saying he has no place in the team is pretty silly. Why? Surely you can't be guranteed a place if you are playing crap a lot?
Kitchandro Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Well taking today as an example, the midfield wasn't up to much, thus Yakubu had no service or support at all really. That said, he was pretty poor. Nothing went right. He's not been brilliant since Boro, but we've got nothing better, have we? Vassell came on and looked much better. And in any case, I'm more thinking about next season. We could shell out less on a better player I feel. Yakubu can be amazing but his career is in decline at his age. I have serious doubts about whether he is good enough if you're thinking about a whole season.
themotivator Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 like i said before ' not against mixing it up, but cant say that i would swap waghorn or howard for him to be honest. who would you have preferred to sign?
ScouseFox Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Vassell came on and looked much better. And in any case, I'm more thinking about next season. We could shell out less on a better player I feel. Yakubu can be amazing but his career is in decline at his age. I have serious doubts about whether he is good enough if you're thinking about a whole season. But Vassell rarely scores (I learnt that from you! ) so to have him spearheading our attack would be quite a risk. And yes, I agree, over the summer we might be able to get a better alternative, but it's incredibly hard to sign people in January, and he was always going to be a short term fix to fire us up the league, we were throwing money around for instant success, rather than building for the next few seasons.
Bettsj2 Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 He's got a lot of talent, but a lot of the time he is a waste of space. Such a frustrating player. The problem is when he doesn't score he doesn't help the team at all. That is costly. My opinion is we shouldn't sign him even if he did want to come. He's got 6 assists but that doesnt really matter. What the majority of fans want (and this isnt exclusive to Leicester fans) is a manager they can relate to (ie, british) and players that put extreme amounts of effort in even if it brings little reward (ie Iain Hume). Now i'm not saying that this is a bad thing but it wouldn't always be good (Levein, Holloway, Allen and their various signings)
STEVIE B Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Was Marshall in our end? yeah, near the corner flag, right hand side, 5 rows back.Not a fan of Yak !!!
Kitchandro Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 But Vassell rarely scores (I learnt that from you! ) so to have him spearheading our attack would be quite a risk. And yes, I agree, over the summer we might be able to get a better alternative, but it's incredibly hard to sign people in January, and he was always going to be a short term fix to fire us up the league, we were throwing money around for instant success, rather than building for the next few seasons. Yeh I know, I'd prefer for this not to degenerate into a 'what was Sven doing in January thread'. Yakubu was brilliant at the start, but when his form dipped I felt he was left in the side when he didn't warrant it. This was one of the reasons our form dipped I think. Vassell doesn't score enough, but when you think about it he was doing really well down the centre before Yakubu came in. I would never, ever use him on the wing, but down the middle he's shown a lot of promise. I think it makes the world of difference when he's in the centre.
STEVIE B Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 People equate running around like a headless chicken ala Hume as passion, effort and quality. Ultimately the Yak has achieved a good strike rate here and really is the best alternative we have. And Vassell has had 30 mins playing down the middle all season and bagged from there today. Be nice just to see him given another go maybe ??
Kitchandro Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 He's got 6 assists but that doesnt really matter. What the majority of fans want (and this isnt exclusive to Leicester fans) is a manager they can relate to (ie, british) and players that put extreme amounts of effort in even if it brings little reward (ie Iain Hume). Now i'm not saying that this is a bad thing but it wouldn't always be good (Levein, Holloway, Allen and their various signings) Dear oh dear it's not like I'm making out Pele is no good. I doubt whether he's good enough because that's how I feel, not because I have an alterior motive about British players. I'm surprised that he's got 6 assists, but that is of course just a statistic, it doesn't always tell the whole story. 6 assists doesn't autmoatically make his work rate very good or his contribution to the team a lot larger than what I have seen with my own eyes. I might be rpoved wrong, maybe with a full pre-season he will come good, but I think it's fair that there is at least a debate about whether he's good enough or not.
Alf Bentley Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Like i've said in another thread, teams in this division know about him and double up on him, it must be frustrating for the player too, as most of the time it's just him running at them alone with no players making runs off the ball, as an outlet. If they're always doubling up on Yak, presumably that means there is constantly an LCFC player free for Yak himself or the player on the ball to pass to? Unless, as I assume you're suggesting, Yakubu is not at fault, it's just that players are standing around unmarked in the centre circle and not making unmarked runs into space? I know it isn't quite that simple, but his double-marked presence certainly doesn't seem to be creating golden opportunities for others... I'll repeat myself: if you're going to offer that little as a mobile team player, you'd better be offering a lot in individual goal threat or creativity - and he isn't! I hope he's not here next season, on that basis.
acooling08 Posted 23 April 2011 Author Posted 23 April 2011 If Vassel had the same game time in the position Yakubu usually plays then he'd probably have as many if not more. Plus there'd be a hell of a lot more defending from the front.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 i thought Yakubu coming on loan was great but lets be honest he has been dissapointing
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