Fat Ron Posted 25 April 2008 Posted 25 April 2008 Arsenal are not in the semi-finals because they don't deserve to be.Playing pretty football doesn't always get you the results you need, as shown by Arsenal this season. As shown by Arsenal for the past three seasons. They're a top four team and their last trophy was the F.A cup in the 2004/05 season. They've been outdone comfortably by United and Chelsea this season after allowing their great lead to slip from their own hands and they were outdone by Liverpool in the Champions League. Add this to humiliations in the F.A cup and league cup by United and Tottenham respectively and you have a team who don't deserve to win anything at the moment. So saying it's a "travesty" and that the semi-finals reflect badly on European football is rubbish to be honest. They may play good football but they're still not good enough. Great post Possesion can be grerat in football games providing its used in the right manner, for me the Quarter Final with Liverpool proved that. Liverpool were more effective and appeared to want to score where as Arsenal seemed to have an arrogant look as they kept the ball almost as if they expected to pass the ball into the net.
Phube Posted 30 April 2008 Author Posted 30 April 2008 Wait a mo', how come Arsénal (The best footballing team on the planet © ) haven't been on TV last night or tonight!!!? !
Corky Posted 30 April 2008 Posted 30 April 2008 Arsenal have won as many trophies in the last three years as Leicester City. All our managers in that time are as successful as Arsene Wenger
ASH17LCFC Posted 30 April 2008 Posted 30 April 2008 Arsenal have won as many trophies in the last three years as Leicester City. All our managers in that time are as successful as Arsene Wenger Makes no sence
Corky Posted 1 May 2008 Posted 1 May 2008 Makes no sence There was a lot of sarcasm in there, but in terms of trophy wins, my comment is correct.
Phube Posted 27 May 2008 Author Posted 27 May 2008 Arsénal's ALL-TIME low.... In an Average starting 11 for the 2007-08 season Arsénal had 0.3 English players!!!
Tilley Posted 27 May 2008 Posted 27 May 2008 Arsénal's ALL-TIME low....In an Average starting 11 for the 2007-08 season Arsénal had 0.3 English players!!! Thats because foreign are usually cheaper, mature quicker & are technically better. I watched Arsenal at the Emirates on many occasions & two of the worst players have been, 1. Theo Walcott, 2. Justin Hoyte. Explain to me, why you would pay £12 million on Theo when you can get Fabregas for next to nothing?? Who cares if they have a starting eleven full of English, or no English players, IF they were good enough, Arsene Wenger would play them, but their not.
Simi Posted 27 May 2008 Posted 27 May 2008 Thats because foreign are usually cheaper, mature quicker & are technically better.I watched Arsenal at the Emirates on many occasions & two of the worst players have been, 1. Theo Walcott, 2. Justin Hoyte. Explain to me, why you would pay £12 million on Theo when you can get Fabregas for next to nothing?? Who cares if they have a starting eleven full of English, or no English players, IF they were good enough, Arsene Wenger would play them, but their not. Indeed. Arsenal can only be blaimed a certain amount. After that, it's the gutless governing bodies of our sport that are to blame for not stepping in and coming with good enough rules and ideas to limit to amount of foreigners in our league.
James. Posted 27 May 2008 Posted 27 May 2008 Indeed.Arsenal can only be blaimed a certain amount. After that, it's the gutless governing bodies of our sport that are to blame for not stepping in and coming with good enough rules and ideas to limit to amount of foreigners in our league. Foreigners are being used as a scapegoat for deficiencies in the funding, training methods and resources used by inadequately skilled coaches working with English kids and youth players. If the domestic players were good enough they would play. They aren't so they don't. The problem has to be addressed bottom-up (i.e. at grass roots level) as opposed to top-down (i.e. limiting foreigners in the Premiership).
Simi Posted 27 May 2008 Posted 27 May 2008 Foreigners are being used as a scapegoat for deficiencies in the funding, training methods and resources used by inadequately skilled coaches working with English kids and youth players.If the domestic players were good enough they would play. They aren't so they don't. The problem has to be addressed bottom-up (i.e. at grass roots level) as opposed to top-down (i.e. limiting foreigners in the Premiership). I've agreed with you in another thread that there is definitley a problem there as well. I really do think that some of the players out there are good enough, but because of the ridiculous pricing of players, that talent is being hampered and wasted. But the grass roots level is a problem as well, the attitude of today's society is not to learn, but to waste. Compare that to other more succesful countries, Brazil for example. Football is a way out of life for them. It's not compariable, I know. But places where they have mastered the attitude are growing in talent, where we are still lacking.
Phube Posted 12 June 2008 Author Posted 12 June 2008 Yay... Arséne can ruin another young, talented British player... I bet he's so proud! BBC Sport
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 Yay... Arséne can ruin another young, talented British player... I bet he's so proud!BBC Sport You no so little about football I don't know how you even dare comment on matters such as these!
Phube Posted 12 June 2008 Author Posted 12 June 2008 You know so little about football I don't know how you even dare comment on matters such as these! Name one (young) British player to come good at Arsénal and be a success under Wenger!? And Cole left because he hated it there... so he don't count!
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 Name one (young) British player to come good at Arsénal and be a success under Wenger!? And Cole left because he hated it there... so he don't count! ...Cole left for more money you idiot! So we will count him. They've bought plenty up through the ranks, Bentley, Pennent, Hoyte they've just been sold on because they aren't good enough to play for Arsenal which is hardly the managers fault. As for signing young British talent he doesn't do it too much as it's expensive and he doesn't have the budget of the other top four clubs but I can only ever remember him arguable runing Franny Jeffers, and he's shit anyway.
Phube Posted 12 June 2008 Author Posted 12 June 2008 ...Cole left for more money you idiot! So we will count him. They've bought plenty up through the ranks, Bentley, Pennent, Hoyte they've just been sold on because they aren't good enough to play for Arsenal which is hardly the managers fault. As for signing young British talent he doesn't do it too much as it's expensive and he doesn't have the budget of the other top four clubs but I can only ever remember him arguable runing Franny Jeffers, and he's shit anyway. So that's 0 then!! (And yes he really criticised Arsénal when he left!) And not good enough to play for a team that's won... err... bugger all in 3 years!! Wow... that is a big ask!
Ric Flair Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 Name one (young) British player to come good at Arsénal and be a success under Wenger!? And Cole left because he hated it there... so he don't count! Theo Walcott is showing signs of turning in to a quality footballer. Wenger has coached him right.
Phube Posted 12 June 2008 Author Posted 12 June 2008 Theo Walcott is showing signs of turning in to a quality footballer. Wenger has coached him right. We'll see!
Lovejoy Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 ...Cole left for more money you idiot! So we will count him. They've bought plenty up through the ranks, Bentley, Pennent, Hoyte they've just been sold on because they aren't good enough to play for Arsenal which is hardly the managers fault. As for signing young British talent he doesn't do it too much as it's expensive and he doesn't have the budget of the other top four clubs but I can only ever remember him arguable runing Franny Jeffers, and he's shit anyway. Don't forget Steve Sidwell as well.
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 Don't forget Steve Sidwell as well. James Harper. Who do you think Arsenal have ruined just out of interest Phube
Ric Flair Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 To be fair though, Sidwell and Harper probably didn't do much work with the Arsenal First Team. I imagine they learnt a lot of their football from the Academy Coaches at Arsenal, which Wenger does have a hand in I suppose. Walcott is well on his way to being a very good Premiership player. Next season will be evidence.
Simi Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 Phube. :laugh: Some of the above comments are absolutely shocking. Any decent opinion you may have it's just pushed away by your bias! Ashley Cole left because he hated it? :laugh: . Please.
lildave3 Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 It won't ruin him, of course not. But I think that Man United would have been the better option.
Tilley Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 Jesus, One minute he moans because Arsene doesn't buy British players, Then when he does, he immediately is shot down & it's being said that he is going to wreck his career, Cant win
Phube Posted 12 June 2008 Author Posted 12 June 2008 Jesus,One minute he moans because Arsene doesn't buy British players, Then when he does, he immediately is shot down & it's being said that he is going to wreck his career, Cant win Did you read the name of the thread before you posted??
Tilley Posted 12 June 2008 Posted 12 June 2008 Did you read the name of the thread before you posted?? Yes, Phube's Arsenal Bashing Thread! Didn't mention contradiction though. Give the guy a break.
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