Mack Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Absolute football genius. Cant understand why so many are on his back, apart from the fact that many are easily lead by the media agenda. What he has done at Arsenal has been sensational.
Heskey2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 My link This frog for real?? Not an arsenal fan or anything but you kind of undermine your point with your signature "dan petrescu worlds most underrated manager" Also agree with the champions league achievement, with Man City and Liverpool / Chelsea spending big it will become tight at the top, i think he's a quality manager who don't forget has made a profit during his time at Arsenal, which by today’s standards is an achievement in its self.
SuperScout Posted 21 September 2011 Author Posted 21 September 2011 You ask any Arsenal fan if they'd have preferred to either make a continuous profit over the last five years and win nothing? or make a slight loss over the last five years, but win every major piece of silverware? I think the answer 9 times out of 10 would be the latter.
DB11 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 You ask any Arsenal fan if they'd have preferred to either make a continuous profit over the last five years and win nothing? or make a slight loss over the last five years, but win every major piece of silverware? I think the answer 9 times out of 10 would be the latter. Why do you position your text in the centre? Bit annoying.
Corky Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 It's not as bad as typing one sentence on different lines.
SuperScout Posted 21 September 2011 Author Posted 21 September 2011 Why do you position your text in the centre? Bit annoying. It won't happen again
Heskey2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 I don't agree, most real fans would see the fact that big money chelsea / mancity and manutd are going to be challenging for things regardless of what Arsenal do. (it's out of wengers hands - he as two games against City and two against united and two against chelsea where he could make a difference, outside of that he can't do owt, mancity will beat most teams this year - wenger can't effect that!) The difference is that if the sheik or abramovic stops investing, those clubs will be bankrupt before you can say ken bates. with Arsenal they have a working profitable business model which any investor would bite your hand off to get involved with.
Fox92 Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Absolute football genius. Cant understand why so many are on his back, apart from the fact that many are easily lead by the media agenda. What he has done at Arsenal has been sensational. Agreed. The team he built up with the likes of Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Vieira etc is probably the best I have seen/ever likely to see in the Premier League.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Arsene Wenger is clearly one of the greatest managers ever to grace the English leagues. Other manager have had rersources he would love to have had and achieved less (I'm looking especially at a string of Chelsea managers. He has bought wisely and astutely and their player development has been second to none. Only Fergie can top him - had he not been in the way, or had Chelsea been less rich, then Wenger would have many, many more notches to his belt. It's like saying Mansell was a crap F1 driver because he only won 1 World Championship during a time when Senna, Prost, Schumacher and Piquet were around.
Kent Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 "I have had 14 years at this club and kept them 14 years in the Champions League. I hope it lasts another 14." When asked if he should consider bringing in a defensive expert - such as former player Martin Keown- to help shore up the backline, the Arsenal manager responded: "I have just completed 30 years of coaching. I don't want to answer this kind of question." Enough said.
Guest BlueBrett Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Arsene Wenger should provide other managers with inspiration...Bring through a few young players and all your other failings will be brushed under the rug. People constantly drone on about his lack of resources and how savvy he has been in the transfer market but the guy has spent well in excess of 300million and brought in some pretty average players for very sizable sums - 16million for Arshavin springs to mind. I'm not saying he's a terrible manager or that he should go, just that it has become fashionable to view his tenure through rose tinted glasses and his successes are always set in front of a backdrop of hardship and disadvantage that simply doesn't exist.
Corky Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Absolute football genius. Cant understand why so many are on his back, apart from the fact that many are easily lead by the media agenda. What he has done at Arsenal has been sensational. Probably because he has gone from winning three titles in six years to winning nothing in six years. His signings are a big part. When he lost the legendary back four, he brought through Ashley Cole, signed Lauren and Sol Campbell. He brought in Overmars, replaced him with Pires. Ian Wright moved on, Thierry Henry came in. Look at them now. They've lost Fabregas and Nasri, will they be adequately replaced? What about if Van Persie goes? Arsenal aren't contenders at the moment and don't look like being so for a while.
Guest BlueBrett Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 ook at them now. They've lost Fabregas and Nasri, will they be adequately replaced? What about if Van Persie goes? Think they were trying to pass off the emergency last minute purchase of Arteta, a much older and less able player, as 'adequately replacing' Nasri. Funny thing is a lot of Arsenal fans actually seemed to swallow it. If RVP goes they'll deal with it equally well. Probably recall Bendtner from Sunderland and declare themselves happy with the day's business.
Mack Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 Probably because he has gone from winning three titles in six years to winning nothing in six years. His signings are a big part. When he lost the legendary back four, he brought through Ashley Cole, signed Lauren and Sol Campbell. He brought in Overmars, replaced him with Pires. Ian Wright moved on, Thierry Henry came in. Look at them now. They've lost Fabregas and Nasri, will they be adequately replaced? What about if Van Persie goes? Arsenal aren't contenders at the moment and don't look like being so for a while. The Arsenal business model is not based on spending vast amounts of money on players. Man Utd this year are sensational, but look at the debts. Arsenal is built on solid sensible foundations, and they were still so close to a multitude of trophies last season. Transitional periods are a necessity in all teams, and if they threw out Wenger now any new Manager would want a huge war chest to stick his neck on the line to achieve a Champions League place. If they have faith and patience and dont let the media drive him out I am sure it will come good again.
I am Rod Hull Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 For me, he`s right up there with Bob Paisley, Shankly, Howard Wilkinson, Clough and Sir Alex...
21st Century Fox Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 He lead Arsenal on a 49 game unbeaten run, I don't think that was fluke.
Wymsey Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 All went downhill after Pires, Henry, Campbell, Bergkamp and co went.
Raw Dykes Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 It's not as bad as typing one sentence on different lines. Yeah! Why does that happen? I always think, "You're small talking on the internet about football, not writing a fvcking haiku. FFS."
FoxyPV Posted 21 September 2011 Posted 21 September 2011 TBF to Man U their debt is only there because of an extremely dodgy takeover. They were able to outspend everyone until Abramovich first came becuae they created their own wealth. Wenger is a great manager as much as I hate him who has lost his way of late.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 22 September 2011 Posted 22 September 2011 My link This frog for real?? I thought you said you knew plenty about football??? This isn't a good start Superb manager, the eye for talent and a bargain this guy has is unbelievable......But i do hope they go down but very unlikely
SuperScout Posted 22 September 2011 Author Posted 22 September 2011 He was a great manager, but he seems to have lost his touch the last few years.
Fox92 Posted 22 September 2011 Posted 22 September 2011 I just find it amazing how he finds players and turns them into World Class players.. Fabregas, Henry etc
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