orangecity23 Posted 22 October 2011 Posted 22 October 2011 Bleh ... not a good performance today at all. We started reasonably, but once we conceded the goal, it all started to go wrong. Once the second goal went in, we were essentially stuffed. We didn't show anywhere enough urgency in the second half, bar Dyer, Schmeichel and Nugent. Notably, we failed to support the full backs again badly. Peltier and Konchesky are expected to provide all width, and beat multiple defenders to provide crosses. Konchesky is never going to beat multiple defenders, and Peltier has pace, but not the trickery we saw from Naughton last year (we really were spoilt with Naughton, who was a defender, but with more pace and dribbling ability than many wingers). Konchesky had a lot more attacking joy in the second half, whilst it became Peltiers turn to receive zero support, from Wellens, who constantly wanders infield. The central midfield was terribly congested, and we were never going to break through that way. Next week definitely requires a rethink, Wellens is never a wide midfield player in a million years. Beckford had a stinker his first touch was awful today. King likewise. We need a much better performance against West Ham, with quicker closing down, and more willingness to try and make things happen on and off the ball. Pass and move is great, but only when players actually move off the ball. Far too often today, a player received the ball, and there was fook all movement in front of them, especially in the second half, which leads to dallying on the ball and indecision. I don't want Sven out, but I'd love to see a proper first team coach in to replace the Hamann shaped hole in the coaching team. We just don't look properly drilled as a team, we're far too disjointed and disorganised, and that needs to be sorted on the training pitch led by a quality first team coach putting the squad through its paces. Fook me, I sound like the bastard child of Thracian and Marbella Dave. Sheehan was crap. There, that feels much better.
Guy Posted 22 October 2011 Posted 22 October 2011 You can't buy the championship,Sven's a cracking manager but he's not sutiable for the championship time to get an actual manager that will move us forward. If Sven goes before Christmas (unlikely though) - then probably a cue to say Bring Back Pearson - if Sven goes! It won't happen as he's not high profile enough for the Thais but he knows the Championship like the back of his hand and would probably do a better job than Sven. Trouble is the Thais would probaby go for somebody like Roy Keane....
marbelladave Posted 22 October 2011 Posted 22 October 2011 Fook me, I sound like the bastard child of Thracian and Marbella Dave. Enlightenment never comes easy....... Todays performance has been coming for a very long time, since about march in fact..... The lack of any shape, structure or determination in our team play has been evident for months, todays perfomance was horrible to watch but comes as no surprise, to some of us anyway.
orangecity23 Posted 22 October 2011 Posted 22 October 2011 Enlightenment never comes easy....... Todays performance has been coming for a very long time, since about march in fact..... The lack of any shape, structure or determination in our team play has been evident for months, todays perfomance was horrible to watch but comes as no surprise, to some of us anyway. Thats given me a scary image of the Bhudda sitting in the stands at the King Power stadium. All tongue in cheek stuff Dave, I've always thought you made some good points.
Guest ttfn Posted 22 October 2011 Posted 22 October 2011 So today was my last game, I shall not waste my time with this anymore. Until there is change, real change I am simply not going to bother going to any more games..... Nah. You'll be back. Plus, it's a London game next week...
Guy Posted 22 October 2011 Posted 22 October 2011 I have yet to go and see the City this season (home or away), mainly through being exhiled in SW Devon but am going to the Leeds game and hope we are at least three points the richer come then! Although with West Ham and Burnley as opposition before then, I can't see it! However we do play better against the so called top teams - West Ham will probably be a case in point. Our record against teams below us in the league is woeful - defeats to Bristol City, Reading and now Millwall - not to mention the last minute points thrown away at Forest and our scraping a draw against Barnsley. Watford and Cov are the only teams we've beaten and they were not convincing wins by any stretch! As for today's "coupon buster", well I saw the goals on Sky Sports News. Casper unlucky with the penaty but no arguments about the other two goals. We looked a well beaten team sadly against a team in the bottom three before start of play. What next I wonder? - a 6-0 away win at Upton Park???
marbelladave Posted 22 October 2011 Posted 22 October 2011 Thats given me a scary image of the Bhudda sitting in the stands at the King Power stadium. All tongue in cheek stuff Dave, I've always thought you made some good points. I don't have that big a belly. Nah. You'll be back. Plus, it's a London game next week... The Boleyn ground has never been a favourite of mine and I generally prefer to avoid east London. I do not have a ticket at this time so I'm probably not going to bother. I can handle getting beat, as a city fan you have to, it's the complete failure to even bloody complete that does it for me..... Even the prospect of going there and winning does not excite me, we'll just play rubish the next match.
EnderbyFox Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 Another point, our set pieces are diabolical. Why Wellens is allowed anywhere near a free kick is beyond me. Why do we never leave anyone up when we are defending corners?
Dan Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 Why do we never leave anyone up when we are defending corners? Said this for ages, in-fact this was even a problem under NP. It's one of the most crazy things I've ever seen. It's not even risky. You push a man up front, a rapid player like Dyer, someone who'll be no loss in the box from a cross, you're pinning two of theirs back, and you're giving yourself an option when you clear it. Honestly it's such common sense I'd have fvcking sussed that aged about 9, it's unbelievable that not every team does it.
UrbanFox Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 I'm not at all surprised, to be honest. I had a sneaking suspicion we'd lose this one, largely due to the fact that we always seem to turn up with the attitude that we've already won when we play a shit team. I'm not about to panic just yet. It is a bit alarming though, that every time we've had a chance to really put ourselves "up there", we blow it. Is the pressure too much? Oh well, at least we're playing a good team next... I have noticed this aswell we have had 3 games recently where we have known before kick off that a win would put us in the play offs, Boro, Birmingham and Millwall, and not won any! Maybe they are bottling it under the pressure? I know Boro and brum away are always gonna be difficult places to go, but with the squad we have we should really be fearing no one!
marbelladave Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 All of the points in the last few posts can easily be explained. I have been saying this for months and yesterday was the clearest example yet. We are not properly set up and prepared for any game. Thats it, simple as that. Given the quality of our individual players our performance as a team is way below what we should be achieving, even on an off day. Take yesterday as an example, our back 5 played quite well individually, even SSL who seems to be this weeks scapegoat, was ok in my view. But collectively there was a sense of unease bordering on panic at times, they simply had no idea how to defend as a unit and so were undone by the most rudimentary attacks. Similarly in midfield everyone seens to play where they want, there is little shape with no-one bar Abe prepared to play in the wide positions, just look how exposed our left flank was for their second. To me it is obvious and has been for some time and until the management address this and get us playing as a unit it is only goung to get worse!
Number 6 Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 Think ttfn was spot on. The bench needs to contain a plan B. Sod putting Weale on there. Schlupp, Dyer, Danns should really be there or, if not, starting.
Karljohn Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 I would like to know what the two guys did in SK2 to get thrown out with 15 minutes to go by the steward, jammy bastards!
Karljohn Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 Said this for ages, in-fact this was even a problem under NP. It's one of the most crazy things I've ever seen. It's not even risky. You push a man up front, a rapid player like Dyer, someone who'll be no loss in the box from a cross, you're pinning two of theirs back, and you're giving yourself an option when you clear it. Honestly it's such common sense I'd have fvcking sussed that aged about 9, it's unbelievable that not every team does it. Said the same on my post on page 5, leave Dyer or Vass up when they stuck that corner into the box, take out two defenders from the crowded penalty area....but not in Sven's plan, they amble forward, and leave the fella pretty much unmarked to head home. Its negative and over cautious.
DanTheFox07 Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 Lets replace him! :scarf: With who Jordan rhodes!
Kitchandro Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 I don't have that big a belly. The Boleyn ground has never been a favourite of mine and I generally prefer to avoid east London. I do not have a ticket at this time so I'm probably not going to bother. I can handle getting beat, as a city fan you have to, it's the complete failure to even bloody complete that does it for me..... Even the prospect of going there and winning does not excite me, we'll just play rubish the next match. I know what you mean, I've no faith that we will find some consistency, the attitude we have approached games after we have won the previous one has been a disgrace. A win would just be another false dawn as the Derby game was, and rest assured I will not love Sven if we win at West Ham because I am not fickle and knee jerk reactions is not my thing, to those suggesting otherwise.
Kitchandro Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 All of the points in the last few posts can easily be explained. I have been saying this for months and yesterday was the clearest example yet. We are not properly set up and prepared for any game. Thats it, simple as that. Given the quality of our individual players our performance as a team is way below what we should be achieving, even on an off day. Take yesterday as an example, our back 5 played quite well individually, even SSL who seems to be this weeks scapegoat, was ok in my view. But collectively there was a sense of unease bordering on panic at times, they simply had no idea how to defend as a unit and so were undone by the most rudimentary attacks. Similarly in midfield everyone seens to play where they want, there is little shape with no-one bar Abe prepared to play in the wide positions, just look how exposed our left flank was for their second. To me it is obvious and has been for some time and until the management address this and get us playing as a unit it is only goung to get worse! Again, completely agree
stockyfox Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 Don't get me wrong! I'm just as gutted, embarrassed and frustrated as any other genuine Foxes fan but wasn't there just a twinge and deep down niggle that yesterday's result was always a possibility. I write this, having just watched Man. City humiliate Man.Utd 1 – 6, in front of their own fans so I take some comfort in knowing that this afternoon, there are now umpteen thousand other folk who are even moresick and totally gutted than I am! The one fact about football that one can be absolutely certain of, is its uncertainty and when you have two teams whose previous ten results and overall form were so starkly contrasted as that of Leicester and Millwall, Sod's law tells you that this had absolutely all the ingredients for an upset and when you add in that one of the teams was Leicester and even more so, the other was Millwall (who you will painfully remember beat us at home last year 0 – 1. well, it was so obvious wasn't it!? The reporter for Sky's 'Soccer Saturday' having said after five or six minutes how poor Millwall were, shook his head in total disbelief on subsequent updates saying repeatedly 'I can't believe I'm telling you this'! It shouldn't have happened but it did and nothing I or anybody else, may say or do will change that. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. So I'm not going to criticise the players, Sven, the ref or anybody else but I do feel desperately sorry for Foxes fans who shelled out a small fortune to watch the game and those fans around the world, who were listening in at all times of day and night. A couple of years ago, I was in L.A. and had to get up at 5-30am to tune in. Instead, I'm going to put it to the back of my mind and forget it. Upton Park is not usually a happy hunting ground for the Foxes but people keep telling me that anybody can beat anybody in this league – and Millwall proved that yesterday!
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 All of the points in the last few posts can easily be explained. I have been saying this for months and yesterday was the clearest example yet. We are not properly set up and prepared for any game. Thats it, simple as that. Given the quality of our individual players our performance as a team is way below what we should be achieving, even on an off day. Take yesterday as an example, our back 5 played quite well individually, even SSL who seems to be this weeks scapegoat, was ok in my view. But collectively there was a sense of unease bordering on panic at times, they simply had no idea how to defend as a unit and so were undone by the most rudimentary attacks. Similarly in midfield everyone seens to play where they want, there is little shape with no-one bar Abe prepared to play in the wide positions, just look how exposed our left flank was for their second. To me it is obvious and has been for some time and until the management address this and get us playing as a unit it is only goung to get worse! Are you really not coming to any more games with Sven at the helm? Or was that another 'knee jerk' reaction?
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 October 2011 Posted 23 October 2011 Don't get me wrong! I'm just as gutted, embarrassed and frustrated as any other genuine Foxes fan but wasn't there just a twinge and deep down niggle that yesterday's result was always a possibility. I write this, having just watched Man. City humiliate Man.Utd 1 – 6, in front of their own fans so I take some comfort in knowing that this afternoon, there are now umpteen thousand other folk who are even moresick and totally gutted than I am
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