Nigel knows we need a winger or two.

[Happy Fox]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/284214/No-honeymoon-for-Nigel-Pearson?

Pearson, though, has already pinpointed the areas in which he wishes to improve.

He added: “We won’t be making hasty decisions on bringing players in. But I have got a good idea where we need to strengthen. We possibly need more width.

[Fox92]

I know we need wingers. You know we need wingers. Nigel knows we need wingers.

So why could Sven fail to see?

[cc_star]

I know we need wingers. You know we need wingers. Nigel knows we need wingers.

So why could Sven fail to see?

The man who played Paul Scholes on the left wing forcing him to internationally retire couldn't see that playing square pegs in round holes, CMs in wider positions wouldn't work?

*shock*

[MikeyT]

At first i thought this topic was called "Nigel knows we need a winge". That's all it shows when on the main forum. Ha

[Guest MattP]

I know we need wingers. You know we need wingers. Nigel knows we need wingers.

So why could Sven fail to see?

I've been saying it since July but was just slagged off as a Sven hater and was told to shut it as I knew nothing about football compared to Sven and "he knew what he was doing".

It really did bring home how far up the arse so many on here were, I'd have expected a novice to the game to realise at some point during a season you might need wide players to break someone down.

[Guest BlueBrett]

Halleluja!

[kyle09uk]

Amen!

[cuzzer1990]

I do beleive Sven attempted to buy Jimmy Kebe from Reading just before the transfer window shut.... but i can probably see Nige bring back Waghorn and playing either Danns, Dyer or Waghorn on the wing until he bring in a cheeky loan winger or two

[Simo86]

I do beleive Sven attempted to buy Jimmy Kebe from Reading just before the transfer window shut.... but i can probably see Nige bring back Waghorn and playing either Danns, Dyer or Waghorn on the wing until he bring in a cheeky loan winger or two

He's going to recall Oakley

[cuzzer1990]

He's going to recall Oakley

I hope not, thats all we need, Oakley rampaging down the right !

[cuzzer1990]

Nige had a good few wingers at Hull.... Brady, Stewart etc maybe he'll take them off their hands

[Ric Flair]

Cue a 13 year old to list every single winger from the academies of Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City.

[Callabinho]

Is Danny rose out on loan? Or Townsend?

[Charl91]

Get Danny Rose from Tottenham - he's in my squad on Fifa 12

[Darkon84]

Is Danny rose out on loan? Or Townsend?

Redknapp is using them in Europe, so cant see them being allowed out on loan.

[ajthefox]

I've been saying it since July but was just slagged off as a Sven hater and was told to shut it as I knew nothing about football compared to Sven and "he knew what he was doing".

It really did bring home how far up the arse so many on here were, I'd have expected a novice to the game to realise at some point during a season you might need wide players to break someone down.

Sorry mr i'marevolutionary, we can't all be as good as you

[Guest MattP]

Sorry mr i'marevolutionary, we can't all be as good as you

If it wasnt Sven everyone would of been saying it. It amazed me what people failed or just point blank refused to look at under his tenure in total blind hope.

The thought of the fact you might need a wide player at some point is hardly revolutionary....

[Rhysm]

I know we need wingers. You know we need wingers. Nigel knows we need wingers.

So why could Sven fail to see?

Maybe he asked Alan Young for his thoughts: "Ya see Sven wingers are out of fashion, no premier league team plays with wingers"

[Thracian]

I've been saying it since July but was just slagged off as a Sven hater and was told to shut it as I knew nothing about football compared to Sven and "he knew what he was doing".

It really did bring home how far up the arse so many on here were, I'd have expected a novice to the game to realise at some point during a season you might need wide players to break someone down.

Don't ever worry Matt. It's like with trades union meetings - the crowd will always try to shout down the voice of reason. Even Pearson uses the word "may" and talks about width rather than wingers cos he's not really a believer - his first instinct is always to protect the defence and yet for all the claptrap he's fallen short and he's fallen short because he's not scored enough goals.

The one hope I have with Pearson is that he might just be big enough to change. i think he's tried to change with the media and that's a plus because the media are there, they are part of the circus that he performs in and - as great managers like Clough and Shankly have demonstrated, it's best to give em something rather than giving them time and reason to have a go at you.

Pearson will see what he's done as a manger and what he's not done and he'll go up in my estimation if he tries to mend the reasons for his managerial shortfall. That means scoring goals and the best way to do that is with specialists on the flanks with the pace to disturb defences and sufficient bodies in the box to make some of those chances count.

The Sven worshippers look a bit silly now but we've had some of the same blind faith with others, like Kelly, Holloway and Megson but none had the vision and single-mindedness to be winners here. Every one of them insured the defence at the expense of attack. But the two things have to go together. A team must move as one. Parrying with speed, strength and determination when we've lost the ball and thrusting quickly and ruthlessly when we've got it. Football is so simple and, underneath, I think Pearson has the brain to understand its simplicity.

The question is, will he have the humility to change his thinking a little.

[ajthefox]

If it wasnt Sven everyone would of been saying it. It amazed me what people failed or just point blank refused to look at under his tenure in total blind hope.

The thought of the fact you might need a wide player at some point is hardly revolutionary....

That was not my point.

It was the self righteous tone of your post. Posters being up their own arses? Talk about pot and kettle..

[Guest MattP]

That was not my point.

It was the self righteous tone of your post. Posters being up their own arses? Talk about pot and kettle..

I couldnt give a fcuk to be honest, I 'm not going to hold back just because some people are to stupid to see the obvious in front of their own eyes.

[Guest MattP]

Don't ever worry Matt. It's like with trades union meetings - the crowd will always try to shout down the voice of reason. Even Pearson uses the word "may" and talks about width rather than wingers cos he's not really a believer - his first instinct is always to protect the defence and yet for all the claptrap he's fallen short and he's fallen short because he's not scored enough goals.

The one hope I have with Pearson is that he might just be big enough to change. i think he's tried to change with the media and that's a plus because the media are there, they are part of the circus that he performs in and - as great managers like Clough and Shankly have demonstrated, it's best to give em something rather than giving them time and reason to have a go at you.

Pearson will see what he's done as a manger and what he's not done and he'll go up in my estimation if he tries to mend the reasons for his managerial shortfall. That means scoring goals and the best way to do that is with specialists on the flanks with the pace to disturb defences and sufficient bodies in the box to make some of those chances count.

The Sven worshippers look a bit silly now but we've had some of the same blind faith with others, like Kelly, Holloway and Megson but none had the vision and single-mindedness to be winners here. Every one of them insured the defence at the expense of attack. But the two things have to go together. A team must move as one. Parrying with speed, strength and determination when we've lost the ball and thrusting quickly and ruthlessly when we've got it. Football is so simple and, underneath, I think Pearson has the brain to understand its simplicity.

The question is, will he have the humility to change his thinking a little.

You might see a different approach from big Nige considering he has a higher standard of player this time around, it will still be solid defence first but thats generally what has got you out of this division in the last couple of years.

Working with Nugent and Beckford should provide far more opportunity for expansive football that playing with Fryatt.

[Thracian]

Cue a 13 year old to list every single winger from the academies of Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City.

It's not just getting the wingers though - it's employing them in such a way as to get the best from them to the team's benefit. And that's not just down to the manager but to the coaches and we've not been nearly good enough on the coaching side at senior level for so far back it's embarrassing to remember.

Wingplay is about risk and reward and the more accurate and purposeful the wingers the greater the reward. It's exactly the same with dead ball situations. It's all about accuracy and purpose and the same players can be involved. But talent alone won't bring sufficient return - it's about applying that talent to the team with clinical effeciency and that's achieved on the training ground.

We've had so-called wingers here in last 10 years and every one has underachieved at senior level. Dyer and Gradel have been the biggest waste. Neither were utilised properly or often enough. We even preferred to use people like Hughes, Oakley, Abe and Mattock on the flanks sometimes - in a form philosophical suicide. Little wonder we didn't score enough.

[Ric Flair]

It's not just getting the wingers though - it's employing them in such a way as to get the best from them to the team's benefit. And that's not just down to the manager but to the coaches and we've not been nearly good enough on the coaching side at senior level for so far back it's embarrassing to remember.

Wingplay is about risk and reward and the more accurate and purposeful the wingers the greater the reward. It's exactly the same with dead ball situations. It's all about accuracy and purpose and the same players can be involved. But talent alone won't bring sufficient return - it's about applying that talent to the team with clinical effeciency and that's achieved on the training ground.

We've had so-called wingers here in last 10 years and every one has underachieved at senior level. Dyer and Gradel have been the biggest waste. Neither were utilised properly or often enough. We even preferred to use people like Hughes, Oakley, Abe and Mattock on the flanks sometimes - in a form philosophical suicide. Little wonder we didn't score enough.

Wingers in the modern game are misunderstood and being phased out. However, we have a distinct lack of players who can operate in wider positions to give ourselves an alternative to playing intricate play through the middle. Most teams don't play 4-4-2 any longer with traditional wingers but we've tried various formations under Sven this season and none of them have consistently worked. I'm not against players being played wide who aren't out and out wingers, but they've got to be able to provide us with an option from out there that the opposition can't nullify automatically. Under Pearson the last team, we often didn't play with 2 wingers but the lads he had out wide would make it harder for the opposition to play against and by marking them we could manouvere the ball through the middle when space was created or move it out wide and stretch teams that way.

[flowwolf]

I must say it is l lovely to here all those penny's dropping in relation to Erickson. Anyone will be a improvement on his tactics wingers or not. :thumbup: