Palace Post Match

[Guest Col city fan]

Gallagher is one of our most important players. What other player in this squad touches him on creativity? He might not shine in each and every game, but, like King for example, he can turn a game on its head in an instant. There's a lot to be said for that. Technically he's our best player without a shadow of doubt.

Technically I agree... Gally is gifted

However, football at championship level is also about toughness, pace, effort, work rate, grinding out victories.

I reiterate, in gally we have a player who can produce moments of magic... But many more moments of being second to the ball, giving it away, ridiculous free kicks that go nowhere, never beating a full back which renders him crossing from deep each time.

The question for me is this... Does Pearson overlook Gallys weaknesses because he can sometimes do something special? Or look for players who can do all those things Gally can't do?

I really don't know.. Only Pearson can answer that.

To my mind, don't only look at the things Gally is good at, also consider the things he doesn't do well.

Then your view of him will be balanced

[lcfc_amie]

You can vote Gally's goal(s) as goal of the week here : http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10794,00.html It's at the bottom of the page, and you can vote more than once.

He's only on about 9% so he needs more votes. (I personally think the 2nd is worthy of goal of the season let alone goal of the week.)

[LCFC FOX]

VOTE for Gallys goal for the best goal of the week

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10794,00.html

[The Year Of The Fox]

What did he do with that shot after his goal, it was hard to see from where I was sitting. Did it he defender get a touch to slow it down?

I think he ran out of steam to be honest. Either that or the ball ran away a bit so he couldn't make decent contact

[Captain...]

Technically I agree... Gally is gifted

However, football at championship level is also about toughness, pace, effort, work rate, grinding out victories.

I reiterate, in gally we have a player who can produce moments of magic... But many more moments of being second to the ball, giving it away, ridiculous free kicks that go nowhere, never beating a full back which renders him crossing from deep each time.

The question for me is this... Does Pearson overlook Gallys weaknesses because he can sometimes do something special? Or look for players who can do all those things Gally can't do?

I really don't know.. Only Pearson can answer that.

To my mind, don't only look at the things Gally is good at, also consider the things he doesn't do well.

Then your view of him will be balanced

I think there is a place for Gally in the team, as someone mentioned before we had 5 potential goal scorers in the team yesterday, Gally being one of them. But can we afford to have Gally Dyer Beckford and Nugent in the team without a tough tackling centre mid? They all work hard for the team but they are not ball winners. To accomodate Gally we need either a ball winner in the middle or one of the front 2 dropping back to help out the midfield. Yesterday the biggest gaps always seemed to be between the front two and the midfield. There were times when Palace could just carry it forwards at will. Likewise when attacking Becks and Nugent were hanging off the shoulders of the defenders and weren't always close enough to the midfield. Away from home against Pompey we will need to win the ball faster and higher up the pitch.

I will be intersted to see how NP lines 'em up on Saturday.

[MC Prussian]

I found this !

Col city fan, on 07 November 2011 - 01:48 PM, said:

Gallagher for me is one of the worst players in the squad.

No pace, can't tackle, rubbish in the air, never beats a full back to deliver a cross from the byline and is a big pussy boy.

The odd half decent free kick don't compensate for his all round crapness.. IMO

And much less a player than either Wellens or King

The problem against Leeds was a lack of width in the team, no pace to exploit their full backs and no final product for the strikers to work off

This squad requires width, pace and the ability to counter attack quickly to put the opposition on the back foot.

Gallagher is sloooooooow, always checks back and it is this momentary pause, just that split second that enabled the Leeds defence to regroup.

I agree with Babs.. A bit of pace and guile would improve this team immensely

And i wonder , things change fast don't they ???

Well, in essence I agree with Col city fan there.

Gallagher is indeed very skilled with the football (not just since his free-kick skills displayed against F***st two seasons ago), but is a rather fragile player who still avoids any direct contact with opposing players.

If he can work on his tackling and heading, he'll be a much more complete footballer.

[OLD norfox]

You can vote Gally's goal(s) as goal of the week here : http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10794,00.html It's at the bottom of the page, and you can vote more than once.

He's only on about 9% so he needs more votes. (I personally think the 2nd is worthy of goal of the season let alone goal of the week.)

DONE 41 % now but still second so vote

[Guest Col city fan]

I think there is a place for Gally in the team, as someone mentioned before we had 5 potential goal scorers in the team yesterday, Gally being one of them. But can we afford to have Gally Dyer Beckford and Nugent in the team without a tough tackling centre mid? They all work hard for the team but they are not ball winners. To accomodate Gally we need either a ball winner in the middle or one of the front 2

dropping back to help out the midfield. Yesterday the biggest gaps always seemed to be between the front two and the midfield. There were times when Palace could just carry it forwards at will. Likewise when attacking Becks and Nugent were hanging off the shoulders of the defenders and weren't always close enough to the midfield. Away from home against Pompey we will need to win the ball faster

and higher up the pitch.

I will be intersted to see how NP lines 'em up on Saturday.

Absolutely right in my opinion. I have been calling for that type of player to be brought in since the summer.

Someone who is rough and tough, wins the ball, lays it off for the playmakers to play.

Abe, Johnson, Gelson.... None good enough as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to see such a player in this team and think it would make a massive difference.

[Happy Fox]

Absolutely right in my opinion. I have been calling for that type of player to be brought in since the summer.

Someone who is rough and tough, wins the ball, lays it off for the playmakers to play.

Abe, Johnson, Gelson.... None good enough as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to see such a player in this team and think it would make a massive difference.

I don't know what you think but a suggestion could be to put Bamba in midfield and utilize his strengths of winning the ball and quick distribution and deploy him as Defensive midfielder could work.

[Captain...]

I don't know what you think but a suggestion could be to put Bamba in midfield and utilize his strengths of winning the ball and quick distribution and deploy him as Defensive midfielder could work.

That has been suggested ever since we signed Bamba as a possibility, probably because our midfield has been so soft under Sousa and Sven. I would rather have Bamba at Centre Back and a natural holding/ball winning midfielder in there. Until I see Bamba play that position I would be sceptical he did it well in Scotland a couple of times, but that is hardly the toughest league in the world, I reckon he could have played as a left winger in the SPL and got rave reviews. Don't get me wrong he certainly looks like he has all the attributes to play in that position, but I maintain that you play your best players in their best positions. Bamba is one of our best players and should be played in his best position.

[Guest Col city fan]

I don't know what you think but a suggestion could be to put Bamba in midfield and utilize his strengths of winning the ball and quick distribution and deploy him as Defensive midfielder could work.

I've mentioned this before mate to be honest as have others. I don't know why Bamba couldn't play off the back four. He's strong, wins the ball and isn't a bad passer... Not great but not bad.

The problem with this IMO is that he would have to be disciplined enough to hold his position. Win the ball, lay it off..... Over and over again. I fear Sol may wish to rampage up the field like a crazy bull at every opportunity, lose the ball and then have to rush back like a mad thing!

lol

[Corky]

Well, in essence I agree with Col city fan there.

Gallagher is indeed very skilled with the football (not just since his free-kick skills displayed against F***st two seasons ago), but is a rather fragile player who still avoids any direct contact with opposing players.

If he can work on his tackling and heading, he'll be a much more complete footballer.

He's also a good penalty-taker, which is a bonus.

[MC Prussian]

He's also a good penalty-taker, which is a bonus.

Mainly thanks to his err, special technique.

[Thracian]

I think there is a place for Gally in the team, as someone mentioned before we had 5 potential goal scorers in the team yesterday, Gally being one of them. But can we afford to have Gally Dyer Beckford and Nugent in the team without a tough tackling centre mid? They all work hard for the team but they are not ball winners. To accomodate Gally we need either a ball winner in the middle or one of the front 2 dropping back to help out the midfield. Yesterday the biggest gaps always seemed to be between the front two and the midfield. There were times when Palace could just carry it forwards at will. Likewise when attacking Becks and Nugent were hanging off the shoulders of the defenders and weren't always close enough to the midfield. Away from home against Pompey we will need to win the ball faster and higher up the pitch.

I will be intersted to see how NP lines 'em up on Saturday.

To some extent Pearson showed us one option on Sunday by using our full-backs properly as genuine support players for our attack.

And once Konchesky supports on left midfield there's as good a ball winner as we're likely to get. If he can keep it up and if Peltier can build a bit more stamina, where's the problem.

I and others have suggested that 3-3-4 or 3-4-3 might be best for our side and this was the case for much of the time, and reasonably effective too even acknowledging that they had some chances and it might have been different if we'd gone behind.

But you could say "if" aboaut all sorts of matches and those three goals were the result of having people in the team who could shoot. Yes, you might lose sometimes but, without such people, you'll lose a lot more.

[whoareyaaa]

Another thing to mention while we are talking about Bamba, Does anyone else think this is one of the best defences we've had in the last 10 years ?

Every postion is very solid and will only improve as time goes on.

[themotivator]

Dont know if its already been mentioned, but the highlights are up on bbc.

City 3 - 0 Palace

First time ive seen beckfords miss...

[MC Prussian]

The commentator on FoxesPlayer calling Speroni Italian...

[marbelladave]

To some extent Pearson showed us one option on Sunday by using our full-backs properly as genuine support players for our attack.

And once Konchesky supports on left midfield there's as good a ball winner as we're likely to get. If he can keep it up and if Peltier can build a bit more stamina, where's the problem.

I and others have suggested that 3-3-4 or 3-4-3 might be best for our side and this was the case for much of the time, and reasonably effective too even acknowledging that they had some chances and it might have been different if we'd gone behind.

But you could say "if" aboaut all sorts of matches and those three goals were the result of having people in the team who could shoot. Yes, you might lose sometimes but, without such people, you'll lose a lot more.

I still remain concerned about the fragility of the central pairing, even in the 3-0 win on sunday they were often brushed aside by a Palace side who routinely appeared to have an extra man in that area.

Pushing Konchesky forward may well help, as did playing Oakley 'narrow right' in NFP's last season with us but neither are real solutions in my view.

The King / Wellens pairing remains lightweight and really needs addressing, whether that is by bringing in new players to replace one or both of them or by finding a setup that gives us an extra man in that area is open to debate, the fact that it needs to be dealt with is, to my mind, not.