Guest Col city fan Posted 12 March 2012 Posted 12 March 2012 Wellens, Oakley, Gallagher, Howard, Mills,etc Exactly mate... That's YOUR opinion isn't it.. You have no idea what Pearson thinks of such players do you? Not long term anyway. It could be that Nige rates Mills but is wanting to prove a point to the rest of the squad? Or he might not rate him at all? Who knows.. In Gally... If fit he could easily continue to feature Deadwood is a subjective term and could relate other members of the squad too? King? Becks? Vassell? None of us know what Pearsons plans are cos we ain't the manager, he is.
marbelladave Posted 12 March 2012 Posted 12 March 2012 I have little doubt that there are 'issues' in and around the squad that leads to a lack of intensity and team spirit, I think that is pretty obvious from our performances under NFP so far. I also expect NFP to sort that out, though I am not yet 100% positive that he will be able to in the time available to him. My primary concern is whether NFP can develope a tactical plan that will allow us to play the kind of football that will move us forward. So far all we have seen from him is simple direct football, hit the frontmen with (mostly diagonal) long balls and win the second ball. Or try to..... I am hoping that he developes a better style of play that will be both better to watch and successful but I'm not exactly holding my breath.
Les-TA-Jon Posted 12 March 2012 Posted 12 March 2012 For my opinions on this read my blog - in my sig!
seenitall Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 Best post in the thread that... No more to say on the matter IMO. I could pull the whole quote to pieces as itnis more babylon sucking niges dick but can't be arsed. Needless to say yountwo are clueless as usual
Guest Col city fan Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 I could pull the whole quote to pieces as itnis more babylon sucking niges dick but can't be arsed. Needless to say yountwo are clueless as usual Mmmm pleasant... Thanks for the insight..
ozleicester Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 The same squad that is full of deadwood, and over rated, over paid egomaniacs, that was signed by Sven and is being blamed for appalling league results... is the squad that has taken us to the 1/4 finals of the cup. Im confused. Are they sh!t?... was Sven sh!t?... is NP Sh!t? I blame the poznan... (oh and Wellens of course)
seenitall Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 The cup may well save Niges arse but no one on here can be anything but underwhelmed by our performances since he returned. I say lets getbSteve Bruce while he is still available
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 Wellens, Oakley, Gallagher, Howard, Mills,etc I thought etc was having a bloody good season myself !!
Babylon Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 The cup may well save Niges arse but no one on here can be anything but underwhelmed by our performances since he returned. Has anyone said any different, I was also underwhelmed by the Performances under Sven. You go down one of two routes, you either give a manager time to try and sort the team out. Or you continuously sack managers until you get lucky and find one that happens to work (which more often than not doesn't happen). I'd rather gamble and give the man in charge a decent crack at turning things around, than gamble the other way and sack every manager after five months of being average.
Kitchandro Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 What is a reasonable amount of time? As long as Sven had.
seenitall Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 Steve Bruce Took an almost relegated Sunderland side to 13th and then 10th in the Premier, then got fired after a handful of games brcause his new signings were struggling to gel (sounds familiar). O neill took those signings and didvvery well so far with them. Bruce sounds like a proper experienced fella to me and would be right for us
seenitall Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 As long as Sven had. Means we will have to wIt until October to fire Nige.......
Kitchandro Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 Means we will have to wIt until October to fire Nige....... No it means you'll have to wait til October to judge Nige. Or you can be one of those twats that real fans have no respect for.
Kitchandro Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 Took an almost relegated Sunderland side to 13th and then 10th in the Premier, then got fired after a handful of games brcause his new signings were struggling to gel (sounds familiar). O neill took those signings and didvvery well so far with them. Bruce sounds like a proper experienced fella to me and would be right for us Or to put it a better way... He spent loads of money with a big club and couldn't get them to perform (sounds familiar). Despite being given time they were still fighting relegation after a shocking end to the previous season. Then Martin O'Neill, a good manager, came in and immediately turned them around to the extent that they now look a completely different team. I'm sure you'll say that's coincidence.
Babylon Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 What is a reasonable amount of time? The very minimum of a year, only in disaster cases such as Sousa would I do it any sooner. Once he's had a summer, and once they have had a bit of time to bed in next year, then i'll judge. Just as I did with Sven.
Saxondale Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 The grass is always greener. I just don't get it. I can't think of any available manager who could have walked in and done a better job than Pearson has. MON might have, but he didn't want to come back - simple as. I just don't see why people think that people like Bruce, Clark, or anybody would have suddenly and magically fixed all the problems in the team. We all know that we have a very strong squad of players and that the problems lie more in motivation / confidence / attitude / tactic. We know that Pearson has a good record of organising and motivating teams but similarly it can't be done overnight. Sven's regime assembled a squad according to their values and, whoever was to come in, obviously needed time to change the team ethos. Pearson and his crew will single out the players who don't fit in with the ethos and replace them, but it can't be done overnight. Yes, we're all bitterly disappointed that things haven't changed more dramatically more quickly, but what is changing the manager again actually going to achieve?
Raw Dykes Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 I'm sure that if NP is given a summer transfer window to sort this mess of a squad out, then we'll see a much more competitive team next season. I don't think another overhaul is needed. It's just a matter of replacing massively overpaid reserve players with a few good signings. We just need a few more hard working players, and fewer egos to tip the balance of the general attitude of the team. I'm sure NP knows better than anyone what needs to be done to turn the squad he inherited into title contenders, and he needs to be given the off season to make it happen. It'd be good if the owners and some of the fans to be a bit more patient and put their judgement on hold until the manager had an opportunity to make the necessary changes.
Kitchandro Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 You were judging earlier than that Babs certainly wasn't, he backs most managers to the hills, if I remember rightly he, like everyone else, was utterly fed up after the Millwall game. I had decided we were going nowhere a couple of weeks earlier, though I'd had my doubts about him since the back end of last season when we fell apart around March time, and more so when we didn't sign a winger in the summer. Even just before Sven was sacked I was debating whether we should give him longer as we weren't in danger of relegation. But in my mind he would just have been staying for the sake of it because there was no way we were getting promoted. He couldn't justify keeping his job by that stage because he'd had over a year and we were going backwards when he left.
Babylon Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 You were judging earlier than that Judging who earlier than when? I always say with every manager that they should be given time, always have always will. Only in exceptional circumstances does it become unacceptable (eg being relegation candidates). I said EXACTLY the same things about Sven as I am doing about Pearson. I'm consistant in saying they should be given time to do their job, only then will we really see if they are or they aren't good enough. I very rearely say whether a manager will or won't be any good, the reason being I don't have a bloody clue. What I will do though is try and defend people against what I think is over the top critisism. This gets interpreted as me being a "sven bummer" or "sucking pearsons c*&^" as you so nicely put it. I have no personal allegiance to any of these managers, and once I beleive they have had a decent amount of time I will start to judge them. Just as I started to do with Sven, but I said at the time he went a few games too soon for me, even though it seemed as though we had taken a backward step on the previous year.
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