chris_lcfc_85 Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 The grass is always greener. I just don't get it. I can't think of any available manager who could have walked in and done a better job than Pearson has. MON might have, but he didn't want to come back - simple as. I just don't see why people think that people like Bruce, Clark, or anybody would have suddenly and magically fixed all the problems in the team. We all know that we have a very strong squad of players and that the problems lie more in motivation / confidence / attitude / tactic. We know that Pearson has a good record of organising and motivating teams but similarly it can't be done overnight. Sven's regime assembled a squad according to their values and, whoever was to come in, obviously needed time to change the team ethos. Pearson and his crew will single out the players who don't fit in with the ethos and replace them, but it can't be done overnight. Yes, we're all bitterly disappointed that things haven't changed more dramatically more quickly, but what is changing the manager again actually going to achieve? Great Post, spot on
seenitall Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 I agree with everything except I'm sure I am the Sven bummer round here so hands off
Gold Coast Fox Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 I'm saying yes again because im a fickle football fan! lol
Mission Unlikely Promotion Posted 13 March 2012 Posted 13 March 2012 I'm saying yes again because im a fickle football fan! lol i think we all are this season
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 31 March 2012 Posted 31 March 2012 Is it time to raise this thread again? . . . . .
lcfcsnow Posted 31 March 2012 Posted 31 March 2012 Get rid now. Had enough of watching this shite. Clueless.
cc_star Posted 31 March 2012 Posted 31 March 2012 Is it time to raise this thread again? . . . . . why, does 1 match affect people's long term view... I'm going by the title.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Get rid now. Had enough of watching this shite. Clueless. It does seem a bit one step forward, one back at present doesnt it? Not sure changing the manager would help though?
accessory Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Look at the teams who have beaten us since he came back.. Hull (a) Doncaster (a) Barnsley (h) Brighton (a) Watford (a) Bristol City (a) Reading (a) Peterborough (a) All of these are clubs we could and should expect to beat. We have a bigger fanbase and more resources which in theory should enable us to attract better players (and managers). But on the day, the opposition were better organised and better motivated. Were these failings down to the players, or to the manager who selected them and directed how they should play? A number of the managers (Poyet, Dyche, Ferguson junior) have massively exceeded expectations this season. Nigel Pearson has not. After we beat Palace in the game in charge we were in 8th place. We are now four places lower. Sooner or later the excuses will wear thin. A change will have to be made, and I'd rather see it happen in the summer than midway through a season. I've had a season ticket ever since the stadium opened. But if the current incumbent remains in charge I'd seriously consider not renewing it. There are better managers available and we should go and look for one.
LCFC_Peter Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Yes and no yes as he can buy very good young players who in a couple of years will be ready for the premier league and i think he will get us promoted if we keep him for 2 seasons or more but i dont think he is a premier league manager
Mark_w Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 i dont think he is a premier league manager Based on **** all? We will not know if he is a 'Premier League Manager' or not until he manages in the Premier League, how many people thought Grant Holt was a Premier League striker when he was playing for Shrewsbury 4 or so years ago? How many people though Paul Lambert was a Premier League manager when he took over Norwich?
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Based on **** all? We will not know if he is a 'Premier League Manager' or not until he manages in the Premier League, how many people thought Grant Holt was a Premier League striker when he was playing for Shrewsbury 4 or so years ago? How many people though Paul Lambert was a Premier League manager when he took over Norwich? Based on his lack of any sign of achievement. Obvious if you think about it.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Based on his lack of any sign of achievement. Obvious if you think about it. DT Which manager could we get to do a better job than Pearson? Not a critisism, genuine question?
ozleicester Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 is Pearson the long term answer?.... yes, but only if the question is, "who is tactically naive and persists with playing sh1t football and is currently fvcking over my football team"
acooling08 Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 is Pearson the long term answer?.... yes, but only if the question is, "who is tactically naive and persists with playing sh1t football and is currently fvcking over my football team" There's not much the manager can do from the touchline. It has been the players that have constantly underperformed, not Nigel.
Guest Col city fan Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Pearson needs to stay... I've said all along we need to give him as time as Sven had, minimum. However, I do have to say I expected him to turn this lot around quicker than this. He is either unable to manage 'awkward' players, or he wants rid of them... I'm not sure which it is yet. But I'm actually now quite relieved it's all over, bar the shouting. Give him the summer to turn it around, offload who he wants to, buy whom he chooses and then see where we are after about ten games or so. As I said yesterday though, if we start the season with the likes of Richie, Gally, Beckford and Mills in the team, I will be very disappointed. They have shown they are not up to it this season, why on earth should they be next?
buzzy Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Pearson needs to stay... I've said all along we need to give him as time as Sven had, minimum. However, I do have to say I expected him to turn this lot around quicker than this. He is either unable to manage 'awkward' players, or he wants rid of them... I'm not sure which it is yet. But I'm actually now quite relieved it's all over, bar the shouting. Give him the summer to turn it around, offload who he wants to, buy whom he chooses and then see where we are after about ten games or so. As I said yesterday though, if we start the season with the likes of Richie, Gally, Beckford and Mills in the team, I will be very disappointed. They have shown they are not up to it this season, why on earth should they be next? you really don't like wellens,gally.beckford,mills but you are always blaming them and saying they are not good enough. last season gallagher and wellens were the players that did have a good season under sven. beckford we know what he can do and mills was one of the best defenders in the championship. so what is the problem well mills price tag as weighed him down beckford , wellens , gallagher like to play football not huff the bloody ball as far as you can [apart from a though games] . the other thing we never have done was replace chris powell and never having a defensive coach that we are clearly missing
Simmo86 Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Pearson needs to stay... I've said all along we need to give him as time as Sven had, minimum. However, I do have to say I expected him to turn this lot around quicker than this. He is either unable to manage 'awkward' players, or he wants rid of them... I'm not sure which it is yet. But I'm actually now quite relieved it's all over, bar the shouting. Give him the summer to turn it around, offload who he wants to, buy whom he chooses and then see where we are after about ten games or so. As I said yesterday though, if we start the season with the likes of Richie, Gally, Beckford and Mills in the team, I will be very disappointed. They have shown they are not up to it this season, why on earth should they be next? Spot on Col
5waller5 Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 Based on **** all? Based on his opinion. Why can't some people understand it's a forum???
5waller5 Posted 1 April 2012 Posted 1 April 2012 There's not much the manager can do from the touchline. It has been the players that have constantly underperformed, not Nigel. Really?? The manager can't do much from the touchline?? Why do they bother having football managers?? I thought it was to build the team, motivate them and coach them to be better. Sorry .... I've just re-read what you wrote ... what you are saying is there's not much Nigel Pearson can do from the touchline. Sorry, I agree entirely now I understand.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 5 April 2012 Posted 5 April 2012 I have changed my mind a few times if i am honest but i definately think we need to give Pearson time to get things right
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 5 April 2012 Posted 5 April 2012 DT Which manager could we get to do a better job than Pearson? Not a critisism, genuine question? I think this question could be better answered at the end of the season, but off the cuff there is Mick McCarthy, with Premiership experience, and one big plus, will be that we could lure a few surprise managers, if we show true ambition in the close season, and offer really big money for a proven manager. Before we buy one more player, we need someone who can man manage, as well as motivate, and create a recipe for success on the pitch. N.P. has demonstrated none of these qualities in the time ne has been here. McCarthy tops my list now, and also Kenny Dalgleish The Thais are known to be demanding success, and I cannot see them sitting back and hoping it will come. Stay as we are, without a quality captain to steer the ship, and will will sink, in my view.
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