Kitchandro Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 Evening all, got home an hour or two ago, a bit of supper and a read through a couple of threads. What I find quite astonishing is the the number of people pointing out our deficiencies as if they have only come to light in the last few games, whan in fact most of the problems have been apparant for months, years in some cases. Take the situation with the wide men, we started the 2009/10 season with 4 wide players in our squad, in the two and a half seasons since then we have got rid of 3 of them, Adams, DNG and Gradel all shipped out ans not one replacement brought in..... We started 2009/10 with King and Wellens as our preferred central midfield pairing, it didn't work then and, guess what, two years later it still doesn't..... Whatever the deficiencies of Brown and Hobbs as players, they did have an understanding, of sorts. Since their departure we have had a succession of better players but at no point have we had a more effective pairing...... There are more examples but these will do for now........ I agree with the rest of your points but not this one, they were big players in our play-off season and 2 of the 3 best ones from last season. This season they have gone badly downhill.
Gold Coast Fox Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 Im counting down the days til i go back home, iv never seen such a passionless bunch of players. (other than nugent and kasper)
gazzer Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 It's pretty obvious to anyone who's seen a few recent games that it's not working so let's get pearson replaced as soon as possible
Happy Fox Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 It's pretty obvious to anyone who's seen a few recent games that it's not working so let's get pearson replaced as soon as possible It's pretty obvious to anyone who's seen a few recent games that it's not working so let's get the midfield as a whole unit replaced as soon as possible.
Guest Bilo Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 We have some shit midfielders, trouble is they're Pearson signings. Danns and Abe are better than Wellens.
ithuriel Posted 26 December 2011 Posted 26 December 2011 We have some shit midfielders, trouble is they're Pearson signings. Danns and Abe are better than Wellens. Wellens and Gallagher who both Soussa and Sven rated and played, saying they are Pearson's signings from two years ago when they we're good player's for us is a bit of a cop out. Also Danns is yet to prove he is even a decent player for this club
marbelladave Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 I agree with the rest of your points but not this one, they were big players in our play-off season and 2 of the 3 best ones from last season. This season they have gone badly downhill. Read the post again.... I'm talking about the King / Wellens pairing, not individuals. We started 2009/10 playing 4-4-2, with widemen, given the confidence we had from our title winning season we started very well, but after two or three months we were 'found out' and the opposition quickly learned that we could be bossed in central areas and we started to falter. NFP reacted by sacrificing one of the wide men and playing Oakley 'narrow right', where he could help out King and Wellens, then by playing Waghorn wide right until we were playing a negative but effective 4-5-1. King and Wellens played big parts in the season but that is not the point....... Which is of course that King and Wellens were not a central pairing, but part of a central three, they were not strong enough to hold midfield then any more than they are able to now........
Thracian Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Even by the mostly indifferent standards of recent seasons this performance was soul-destroying. So much so that several people around me were talking of going home by the end of the first half...and at least two of them were as good as their word. Fans were so disillusioned they couldn't even be bothered to shout their frustration. Where people get marks like 8/10 for Abe I don't know unless they were just basing it on the second half because he was so rusty early on we almost lost the game in the first 10 minutes and his passing was inconsistent all game. Second half he started winning the ball and that was welcome but there was nothing more - no shots that I remember or notably penetrative passes that managed to find their intended mark. Wellens was presumably supposed to conduct our orchestra in midfield but clearly forgot the baton because we just didn't rise to a a crescendo at any time. At least we looked a little more professionally competent when King came on but a few flourishes early on were quickly forgotten as he too went flat on a day when Ipswich were sharper to every loose ball and more highly tuned all over the front two-thirds. Quite how our staff managed to make our players look so uninspired I don't know but there were precious few exceptions. Konchesky was one. He did everything any manager might reasonably expect and was perhaps the only one to earn his wages. He showed urgency from first to last, competed for everything, got himself forward, thought about his passing and basically showed most of his team-mates up for the commitment he gave. I saw so few of the vital components needed for a decent team...and neither did the Leicester part of the 27,000 crowd judging by their virtual silence throughout. They were shaken vigourously enough in the first few minutes when Kasper's penalty save was quickly negated by the Ipswich goal but their were never stirred to anything like excitement because even our equaliser came from a penalty rather than being a created goal. After his disappointing wasting of Gradel's talent you might have imagined Pearson having a more encouraging approach with Schlupp but instead he "treated" him to barely 10 minutes of action at the end of a day when we hardly mustered a worthwhile shot in open play for the 80 minutes he sat on the side doing nothing (again). If a boxing referee had turned up on the touchline and yelled "seconds out" I reckon about eight of our players would have gone off cos that's what we were ..and a poor second in many cases at that. We had as much penetration as a flacid penis and the number of balloon balls we played - all air but no pace - just left rows of our fans shaking their heads in despair. I'm expecting to hear from social services next week - for the cruelty of taking a junior school sister and brother along to see the match in the misplaced hope that they might become fans for life. The sister ended up counting the bangles on her wrist that she'd been given for Christmas and asking whether the Leicester City blue & white paint on her face had finally disappeared to save her the further embarrassment of being seen wearing the stuff. Her brother began trying to count the number of Santa outfits he could see. At least he didn't take the piss and start counting clowns!
accessory Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 Ipswich were like a mirror image of us. With the quality of players they had (Bowyer, Bullard, Chopra, Sonko among others) they should have won by three or four. Instead they sat back on their lead, much as we did at Doncaster, and paid the price. Meanwhile, Pearson behaved like so many of the other failed City managers of recent years, persisting with favourites at the expense of better and younger alternatives. Schlupp's pace caused more problems for the visiting defence than Beckford did throughout yet another wretched performance in a blue shirt.. Yet the panic buy was far from the worst player on show. That "honour" belonged very much to Lloyd Dyer. We've known for the past three years how much he hates playing in December, so WHY is he still in the starting 11? Unless Franck Moussa has some serious undisclosed and/or contagious serious illness it is difficult to see how he should not be a contender for a place in Saturday's squad. The way this side has been in recent games, it's far from impossible that we could be sucked into the relegation battle. Where are the six wins needed to ensure our survival going to come from? We desperately need a cup run to retain the interest of the fans. The scum's losing and goal-free run WILL end some time, and we all know when that's going to happen. Schmeichel and maybe Abe aside, I wouldn't trust ANY of yesterday's fcukwits to pull off a result at the hovel.
ithuriel Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 You never have gotten over Gradel have you :xmaslaugh: Seem's doom monger's like nothing better than doom n' gloom :xmaslaugh: :xmastongue: , we know the current lot are'nt good enough has a team :xmasohmy: , we know we need new player's and we know that we need to wait until January arrives to see some change's in personnel :xmaswink: . I've seen good and bad period's at this club and transitional period's where thing's at first do not look good but get better or like last year where thing's go well at first but deteriorate. This has more the feel of being bad but getting better to me, the reason being we know Pearson can build a good team with good work ethic and the fact he is going to make change's to the squad come the transfer window. Problem's to come are, can we get the player's the management team are looking at and how fast can they bed in if we get them? :xmasunsure:
wolfgang amadeus Posted 27 December 2011 Posted 27 December 2011 My first game of the season today, didn't think it was as bad as a lot of people seem to be making out, completely lacked a final ball which showed with us having no real chances or openings. The start of the game didn't aid this however as once Ipswich scored they sat back deep and allowed us to have the ball without much pressure which doesn't suit a team with a fair bit of pace. As for the personnel I'm in the camp that thought Beckford looked alright today, much better than Nugent anyway and if we get some balls in behind the defence then he can take advantage of this. Bearing in mind that's mostly where he scored his goals for Leeds and Everton. Abe, Schmeichel and Konchesky all looked solid, I love Bamba but he gets applause for the wrong stuff a lot of the time. At one point he got applauded for attempting a cruyff turn whilst being closed down by two strikers and as a defender I can't think of a worse thing to attempt. Yet its his ability to carry it over the halfway line and then pass forward that helps us the most, played the pass of the match to Konchesky in the second half. I'd like to see a more creative attacking midfielder come in and a winger. If possible a younger target man would be next on the list but if we get the first two right I believe a play off place will be ours come 46 games played. Ipswich were like a mirror image of us. With the quality of players they had (Bowyer, Bullard, Chopra, Sonko among others) they should have won by three or four. Don't know what this nonsense is, Chopra would get in our team, the Bowyer and Bullard of yesteryear would but all four of them were pretty poor today, Sonko looked slow time after time again, don't remember Chopra having a chance and the other two couldn't keep the ball.
flowwolf Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Ipswich are mediocre and so are we. Except this. We are so mediocre we are having to resort to offering two adults and two kids into our next home game all for £20. ( a real kick in the bollocks for the season ticket holders I might add ) That is how piss poor we have become.The standard of football against Ipswich has now become the norm and yet will still get morons on here saying it is "our the fans fault" for not supporting them enough. That performance on Saturday has left me with no hope no belief and no idea as to why I keep going down? roll on doomsday.
Adster Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Ibrahima Sonko is an absolute donkey and he'd do well to make our bench .
volpeazzurro Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Er, here's a thought, maybe Beckford and Howard aren't the only 2 strikers to choose from? How about lets get a good striker? FFS, these excuses are completely ignoring the point, if he cannot do the basics and he's not scoring what is he doing right? I partly agree but even a really good Premiership striker would struggle to be effective with the service they're getting from our midfield at the moment.
volpeazzurro Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Ipswich are mediocre and so are we. Except this. We are so mediocre we are having to resort to offering two adults and two kids into our next home game all for £20. ( a real kick in the bollocks for the season ticket holders I might add ) That is how piss poor we have become.The standard of football against Ipswich has now become the norm and yet will still get morons on here saying it is "our the fans fault" for not supporting them enough. That performance on Saturday has left me with no hope no belief and no idea as to why I keep going down? roll on doomsday. Good point on the pricing, I purchased tickets for me, my wife and two kids at full price prior to this £20 offer, don't suppose I'll get a refund though!
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 December 2011 Posted 28 December 2011 Ipswich are mediocre and so are we. Except this. We are so mediocre we are having to resort to offering two adults and two kids into our next home game all for £20. ( a real kick in the bollocks for the season ticket holders I might add ) That is how piss poor we have become.The standard of football against Ipswich has now become the norm and yet will still get morons on here saying it is "our the fans fault" for not supporting them enough. That performance on Saturday has left me with no hope no belief and no idea as to why I keep going down? roll on doomsday. That's how I felt after the Ipswich game Flowy and I left early for the first time this season cos I frankly had better things to do. However, it seems we are linked with Sharp who, as you know, I reckon is a good player. Full of energy, good attitude and I think would become a very good player for City. Get him, a more mobile midfielder and a pacy winger on the right hand side and this season could, just could be turned around.. Keep yer chin up mate..
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