The People's Hero Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 I'm not a great one for checking the news - and additionally am someone who is quick to knows news corporations and the likes of the BBC for the dumbed down and sometimes simply inaccurate or misleading, sensationalised news reporting BUT since our baby was born yesterday, I thought I'd check out the news stories and just try to create that association in my mind - what WAS happening when Dylan was born? Anyway, thats by the by, the point was I chanced across this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-17095519 I've always struggled with aspects of the Holocaust. I studied history at university and remain a keen historian although now it really is simply a hobby or interest and I'm mainly concerned with local history - or other very specific areas. The Holocaust is something I studied in my second year at university and I can remember so much of what I read etc very vividly. Its a complete one off in so many ways (yes, I know that 'ethnic cleansing - HORRID PHRASE - and racial/national/religion-based genocide etc is hardly rare through our times, in fact, its probably all part of the human condition) but so much about it, the complete secrecy around it, the complete shock for those who discovered the sites... I went to the exhibit at the Imperial War Museum in London when they had a whole floor dedicated to the subject and it genuinely had me in tears most of the way round. I struggle to empathise with a lot of victims in history but I defy anyone to go round that exhibit and feel nothing. Humans, often probably quite decent (otherwise) Nazi officials facilitating that occurring. I'm not posting to judge those who were involved for whatever reason - and there are so many things to consider - but I just wanted to bring this to a wider audience. The photos brought make so much of what I'd studied and thought about before. These places are still there and thats the thing with history, its locative. Everything happens somewhere. Will those landscapes ever be anything else? Could they be? Will people ever live there? Even if they did, that, I'm afraid is a legacy which will outlive any block of flats, entertainment multiplex etc. Also - well done to the BBC for giving this the time of day. For so many reasons, Auschwitz and similar deathcamps/concentration camps and their victims, run by the Nazis and anyone else for that matter, should never be allowed to be forgotten.
The People's Hero Posted 27 February 2012 Author Posted 27 February 2012 Part of the reason I posted that - and the reason I started this thread actually is that I saw that and the images immediately brought back so much I've studied and thought about in the post and some quite strong feelings. Photography is one of many artforms or whatever that are capable of evoking this sort of reaction. Anyone else got any particularly poignant pictures which do it for them - or just in general? One I absolutely love as a Leicester fan is Steve Walsh reeling away after THAT goal in the play off final vs Derby.
davieG Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Congratulations on becoming a Dad hope mum and baby are doing fine. This one always gets me being just naive teen around the time of the Vietnam war.
StanSP Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Not as sensitive as ones already posted, but this is still pretty poignant in my eyes...
Zingari Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Not as sensitive as ones already posted, but this is still pretty poignant in my eyes... why don't they make all the buildings out of the same stuff as that archway ?
The People's Hero Posted 27 February 2012 Author Posted 27 February 2012 Not as sensitive as ones already posted, but this is still pretty poignant in my eyes... Indeed. Its not in the spirit of the thread - but the only time I ever see those pictures is with the tagline 'what IS that arch made of?'
Narborough_fox Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Congratulations on becoming a Dad hope mum and baby are doing fine. This one always gets me being just naive teen around the time of the Vietnam war. Not many people know this but behind the photographer is an ambulance waiting to take the little girl to a hospital. She was air lifted away and now lives in Canada where she's set up the Kim Phuc Foundation.
Captain... Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Not many people know this but behind the photographer is an ambulance waiting to take the little girl to a hospital. She was air lifted away and now lives in Canada where she's set up the Kim Phuc Foundation. I read a good book about her, "The Girl in the Picture", and how she was used in communist propaganda after the war and escaped to Canada. http://www.amazon.com/Girl-Picture-Story-Photograph-Vietnam/dp/0140280219
The People's Hero Posted 27 February 2012 Author Posted 27 February 2012 I read a good book about her, "The Girl in the Picture", and how she was used in communist propaganda after the war and escaped to Canada. http://www.amazon.co...m/dp/0140280219 That ought to be a good read. Might see if anyone I know locally has a copy I can borrow. Got a few good books lined up to read actually. Finishing a cracking book about risk and our perception of it and how the human mind is hardwired to work. We basically see risk as a caveman might - our brains have not yet really caught up in some ways, so we react 'incorrectly' in many situations. Its better than I can make it sound, its by Dan Gardner and its called Risk.
Finnegan Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Congratulations on becoming a Dad hope mum and baby are doing fine. This one always gets me being just naive teen around the time of the Vietnam war. I have a t-shirt with a Banksy print on featuring that photo. I've got to be honest, I've not actually worn it out of the house that much. It takes far too much explaining to avoid looking like a complete weirdo!
Guest Bilo Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 This probably started out poignant but then got raped by the Demotivational Squad. Bastards. On a more serious note, this picture from the Holocaust always makes me sick to my stomach.
Ashley Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Would Prypiat, Chernobyl, Ukraine qualify as a poignant picture?
davieG Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Within 4 months of each other Ecstasy Agony Aberfan http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/uk_aberfan_disaster_/html/7.stm
Zingari Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 They are possibly two of the worst days in the memory of the Welsh sorry I know this is in poor taste
FoxesAreBlue Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 Had to google Aberfan disaster because I had never heard of it before. Jesus what a chilling story that is. I'm a bit lost for words
Zingari Posted 27 February 2012 Posted 27 February 2012 not sure if this could be deemed poignant , but it seems to say to me " job done buddy"
The People's Hero Posted 27 February 2012 Author Posted 27 February 2012 Pushing it a bit here.... That is grim.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Had to google Aberfan disaster because I had never heard of it before. Jesus what a chilling story that is. I'm a bit lost for words It's the most awful thing to read about in British history for me, I still can't watch or read anything about it without welling up. I can't even start to imagine what something like that to do to a close knit community.
MPH Posted 28 February 2012 Posted 28 February 2012 Nice to see the Israeli solders not doing anything to stir up hatred.....
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