tylesta Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Ok one more.. You've missed the point mate... I'm not sure on purpose or by accident? What these figures suggest to me is that the bulk of the top league goal scorers have also chipped in with ASSISTS. That was the real point. Neither Beckford nor Nugent appear in the top twenty five league table for assists. By definition, they have not set up 'each other' for many goals at all. The figures then, fly in the face of people suggesting that the pair of them have developed a 'strong partnership'... This actually is not the case. If it were they would have both scored more goals AND assisted each other more to score them. However, as I stated earlier... None of our squad, not one single player, appears in the top assists table, with the exception of Drinkwater, mainly when at Barnsley. This represents a bigger problem and also indicates that if Sven may have pushed the boat out to get a Snodgrass or a Burke, we may have been in a better place at present. I make no assumptions, and of course I know players fit in better at certain clubs. For fooks sake, we've seen that enough with City players over the past few years. But ignore the 'lack of assists' thing at your peril. This demonstrates, to me anyway, that Beckford's lack of overall game is clear to see. Nugent has scored league goals, so can be excused. He has also MADE and TAKEN a number of goals himself.. But Beckford has just about literally set no goals up for any of his team mates. Here's the rub... Do you consider that he WILL now start to do so? If so, then fine... If the argument is that Nugent and Beckford WILL form a formidable 'partnership' then we can go with that. But the stats tell us that this hasnt yet happened.. And the season is not far from being over. Hell, it still could happen and we could sneak the play offs! If so, we will all be happy! But this makes me come back again to my original point... Beckford can be a clinical finisher (positive), but his ability to bring other players into the mix, especially to score goals is not so good (negative)..... doesn't this tell you something.......you bang on about how beckford hasn't scored enough league goals, beckford is a player who likes to play on the last man and thrives of balls over the top or played through so he can run on to them as his main asset his is pace, like birmingham there defender had a yard or so on him and he had his pants down watch most of beckfords goals thats his game.
KidKunny Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 doesn't this tell you something.......you bang on about how beckford hasn't scored enough league goals, beckford is a player who likes to play on the last man and thrives of balls over the top or played through so he can run on to them as his main asset his is pace, like birmingham there defender had a yard or so on him and he had his pants down watch most of beckfords goals thats his game. Haha, 'had his pants down' love it! Awesome goal that was, I couldn't believe how fast he ran, he did make the defender look stupidly slow!!
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 doesn't this tell you something.......you bang on about how beckford hasn't scored enough league goals, beckford is a player who likes to play on the last man and thrives of balls over the top or played through so he can run on to them as his main asset his is pace, like birmingham there defender had a yard or so on him and he had his pants down watch most of beckfords goals thats his game. Absolutely it does... The lack of assists has been a major problem as borne out by the stats. As someone said previously, Wellens has only 5 assists for the season and he's our 'playmaker'. But the figures I quoted also tell us that the top strikers this season have many assists to their name also. They have not only scored goals but have also MADE goals for their team mates. The best striker 'partnerships' over the years have been those where the players have also assisted each other... Ie. have not only relied upon the midfield to assist them: Shearer and Sheringham, Fowler and Owen, Dalglish and Rush... I know these are examples of top players of course. But the point I was making is that, so far at least, Nuge and Beckford have not developed such a partnership. So for people to suggest they are a 'deadly duo' is wrong... So far. Absolutely right though, neither have they been 'assisted' by the midfield, which has gotta be addressed. Anyway, I think this is clear myself. It's not Beckford bashing, it's attempting to highlight a problem. Tis all... Honest
tylesta Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Absolutely it does... The lack of assists has been a major problem as borne out by the stats. As someone said previously, Wellens has only 5 assists for the season and he's our 'playmaker'. But the figures I quoted also tell us that the top strikers this season have many assists to their name also. They have not only scored goals but have also MADE goals for their team mates. The best striker 'partnerships' over the years have been those where the players have also assisted each other... Ie. have not only relied upon the midfield to assist them: Shearer and Sheringham, Fowler and Owen, Dalglish and Rush... I know these are examples of top players of course. But the point I was making is that, so far at least, Nuge and Beckford have not developed such a partnership. So for people to suggest they are a 'deadly duo' is wrong... So far. Absolutely right though, neither have they been 'assisted' by the midfield, which has gotta be addressed. Anyway, I think this is clear myself. It's not Beckford bashing, it's attempting to highlight a problem. Tis all... Honest maybe not the deadly duo, but there the deadliest pair we have had in a while. look back a few years we had fryatt banging 6 a season then look he got bummed as much as boy george on G.
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 maybe not the deadly duo, but there the deadliest pair we have had in a while. look back a few years we had fryatt banging 6 a season then look he got bummed as much as boy george on G. Genuinely hope you're right mate and that the partnership flourishes into something special. No doubt they can both score goals... And if they can create goals for each other too we are onto a winning combination.
KidKunny Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Genuinely hope you're right mate and that the partnership flourishes into something special. No doubt they can both score goals... And if they can create goals for each other too we are onto a winning combination. This has MAYBE been the most positive thing you have said about Beckford, If i'm correct?
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 This has MAYBE been the most positive thing you have said about Beckford, If i'm correct? Not really.. I've said lots of positive things about him.. And to be fair he's a bloody handsome bugger as well!
KidKunny Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Not really.. I've said lots of positive things about him.. And to be fair he's a bloody handsome bugger as well! lol ... Well it's the first I've seen!! I'm not sure about the handsome thing ! However to the 'Beckford haters' do they think we should Gareth McCleary cause he's scored 5 goals in one game?
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 lol ... Well it's the first I've seen!! I'm not sure about the handsome thing ! However to the 'Beckford haters' do they think we should Gareth McCleary cause he's scored 5 goals in one game? Mate it's 'haterz' apparently! And I didn't get the next bit to be fair...
jonlcfc1990 Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Very nice, but your grammar is horrendous. Aloud = permitted audible. i ≠ I. Till = the thing a shop assistant uses or something you do to a field. And when my smiling the whole world smiles with me..? (That one's been bugging me for a while ) It's such a shame since you've clearly grasped the use of apostrophes to indicate a contraction (apart from the aforementioned 'til error) and you made such stellar use of the question mark. Hurhurr I wrote this in a hurry while at work and only now at 21:49 have i seen my Allowed and Aloud error
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Hurhurr I wrote this in a hurry while at work and only now at 21:49 have i seen my Allowed and Aloud error Daft bastad... Great pics though mate
jonlcfc1990 Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Daft bastad... Great pics though mate I sure am sometimes
KidKunny Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Mate it's 'haterz' apparently! And I didn't get the next bit to be fair... my bad.. Well the Beckford 'haterz' just want someone who scores a lot of goals for another team, but my point on that they will not perform here e.g. I don't think Billy Sharp would've fit into Leicester but thats just my opinion as all my posts are
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 March 2012 Posted 20 March 2012 Come on then Jermaine... You were signed for nights like tomorrow. You and you're team mates go out there and show me that I may have been overly critical of you. Stuff it up Ollie and I'll back off mi son.... Luv Col...
NeilyBoy Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 Hurhurr I wrote this in a hurry while at work and only now at 21:49 have i seen my Allowed and Aloud error Since I'm feeling generous I'll let it slip. I expect to see an improvement in your signature by the end of the week.
jonlcfc1990 Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 Since I'm feeling generous I'll let it slip. I expect to see an improvement in your signature by the end of the week. Did i do good?
jonlcfc1990 Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 My work here is done. Can i hire you just to follow all of my posts? It would be greatly appreciated
Jbrightmore Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 This lads been on fire in the last few games! Not wrong there and just been proved by scoring!!!
Burmesefox Posted 21 March 2012 Posted 21 March 2012 5 in 6 as it stands... and yet there will still be a lynch mob calling for his head in a few days time
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