cambridgefox Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 cus if id queued as a season ticket holder on sunday for about 2 hours only for some member of staff to come out and say "sorry everyone, its sold out" , id still expect to get priority over members/general sale if some became available even it was the day after or the day after. Fair point,but the OS should have stated something along those lines and i agree STH should have priority , i just take the risk 9 times out of 10 if not more i dont ever have a problem getting away tickets and im happy with that.just wish i lived a bit nearer,if it became a problem i would just buy a ST,would be a expensive way of doing it but its a way of getting to see the "must have" games,im not stinking rich but have a comfortable lifestyle that others might not have to be able to do this.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 its a way of getting to see the "must have" games As is pre-booking all cup games on the form at the Ticket Office at the outset of the season. To be honest, I have no sympathy for anyone who cherry picks away games complaining they couldn't get a ticket, and this applies to ST holders in particular. I'll try to get a Wembly ticket if we get there but I'll not be carping if I don't manage it. There's bigger things in life to get worked up about.
Bayfox Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I got 4 returns yesterday, having missed out initially, due to the club messing up our P1 status, this has been ongoing since the Norwich game when it 1st came to light we had been down graded with no reason or notice and we still haven't had a suitable explanation from the club. So I was very pi$$£d off at nearly missing both norwich and chelsea. I fail to see how people who are waiting for general sale or are members only, ( the argument of distance etc needs to be taken out of this as well as cost ) feel they have an entitlement to tickets over people who go week in-week out, the club operates a policy that has been in place for 15 years plus now, everyone knows where they stand and if tickets sell out they operate a waiting list for season ticket holders that couldn't get lucky on the phone or are to far down the queue to get hands on some, I see this as pretty reasonable. I attended nearly every game during the BL, MON, PT and MA eras so was P1 for many years, then due to circumstances was only able to attend home games for a number of years, at that point I had no right to complain when I had to miss the game at stoke that sealed our fate, as people who travel away every week deserve some reward, priority!! I managed to get to most games in L1 missing just a 4 aways all season I think, meaning when we faced cardiff in the play-off semi 2nd leg the following season I was there, that was a reward for traveling to leyton orient and southend and all the other places we had to visit to get back into the championship I really can't see how there is a fairer way than rewarding the fans who do this every season, we will face the same problems WHEN we get to Wembley as all the Glory Hunters who haven't bothered going to a game since we lifted the L1 title (30k plus) against Scunthorpe will all bang on about how they are entitled to a ticket, sorry but you're not!!!
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I got 4 returns yesterday, having missed out initially, due to the club messing up our P1 status, this has been ongoing since the Norwich game when it 1st came to light we had been down graded with no reason or notice and we still haven't had a suitable explanation from the club. So I was very pi$$£d off at nearly missing both norwich and chelsea. Why would you - if you go to almost every away game YOU CAN PREBOOK ALL OF YOUR AWAY TICKETS INCLUDING CUP GAMES. You could have guaranteed your tickets to Norwich and Chelsea but didn't. Sorry for the shouting but this is the third time I've pointed this out in this thread. If you didn't prebook then you don't have a gripe. I managed to get to most games in L1 missing just a 4 aways all season I think, meaning when we faced cardiff in the play-off semi 2nd leg the following season I was there, that was a reward for traveling to leyton orient and southend. Which automatically assumes you are entitled to a reward for doing a hobby. You could be entitled to rewards for stopping a robbery, finding money or saving someone's life - travelling to Southend for the seaside promotion party was hardly an arduous chore. To my mind the priority system is nothing more than a fancy way of people claiming to be better fans than others and therefore have a greater entitlement to tickets. It's bollocks. Going to a match is a hobby and having more money or living more local should accrue a person no advantage over anyone else. Then comes out the blahblahblahgloryhuntersblahblahblahplasticfansblah shit - which does nothing other than confirm that this is the mindeset behind those who feel they deserve to be treated better than others. I went to Glastonbury every year - should that give me priority over others when the tickets are released?
Filbert_Ross Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 So tickets should be a big free-for-all then Daggers? No priority whatsoever?
Kitchandro Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Why would you - if you go to almost every away game YOU CAN PREBOOK ALL OF YOUR AWAY TICKETS INCLUDING CUP GAMES. You could have guaranteed your tickets to Norwich and Chelsea but didn't. Sorry for the shouting but this is the third time I've pointed this out in this thread. If you didn't prebook then you don't have a gripe. Which automatically assumes you are entitled to a reward for doing a hobby. You could be entitled to rewards for stopping a robbery, finding money or saving someone's life - travelling to Southend for the seaside promotion party was hardly an arduous chore. To my mind the priority system is nothing more than a fancy way of people claiming to be better fans than others and therefore have a greater entitlement to tickets. It's bollocks. Going to a match is a hobby and having more money or living more local should accrue a person no advantage over anyone else. Then comes out the blahblahblahgloryhuntersblahblahblahplasticfansblah shit - which does nothing other than confirm that this is the mindeset behind those who feel they deserve to be treated better than others. I went to Glastonbury every year - should that give me priority over others when the tickets are released? How else do you determine who the real supporters are? Like it or not there are some people who aren't real fans and don't give a shit, but will turn up for the big games. I don't care if that counts as me calling other fans plastic and you don't like it, that's just the way it is. It's not just a 'hobby', it's hardly the same as collecting stamps. And Glastonbury is once a year, it's not a week after week commitment. People have season tickets because they intend to go to most home matches. People are priority 1 because they've been to a lot of away matches. I rarely use the prority system because I'd prefer to go to away games with friends, but I think it's totally fair that people who have shown loyalty by buying a season ticket and going to a load of away games get the opportunity to go to the big games. In this instance fair enough, any remaining tickets should be on general sale on the date they said they would be. But generally the priority system is fair.
Houdini Logic Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 So tickets should be a big free-for-all then? No priority whatsoever? No, you either sign your life away at the outset, knowing exactly what you'll be doing throughout the year and happily agreeing to pay a load of money up front, or you accept that matey down the road who has been to three games all season has as much right to the ticket as you
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 So tickets should be a big free-for-all then? No priority whatsoever? You want to go to all the aways? Buy a ST, pre-order the aways at the beginning of the season - job done. You want to pick and choose? No preferential system. It only exists in the form of 'Members' to earn the club extra money and so people can be loyalty snobs.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 How else do you determine who the real supporters are? Like it or not there are some people who aren't real fans and don't give a shit, but will turn up for the big games. I don't care if that counts as me calling other fans plastic and you don't like it, that's just the way it is. It's not just a 'hobby', it's hardly the same as collecting stamps. And Glastonbury is once a year, it's not a week after week commitment. "Real supporters"? "Plastic"? "It's not just a 'hobby'"
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 No, you either sign your life away at the outset, knowing exactly what you'll be doing throughout the year and happily agreeing to pay a load of money up front You can return tickets if you can't use them. You don't pay for the away tickets at the beginning of the season. You don't know what you're talking about, do you.
Kitchandro Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 You want to go to all the aways? Buy a ST, pre-order the aways at the beginning of the season - job done. You want to pick and choose? No preferential system. It only exists in the form of 'Members' to earn the club extra money and so people can be loyalty snobs. How is that fair if I go to all the home games and 13(?) away? It's not being snobbish, I simply am more commited and a better fan than people like some of my friends who thought it was funny when we were relegated but then when a big game comes along they always want a ticket. I don't want to go to every away game, I haven't got that much money. But the club should reward loyal fans for going to a significant amount. If they didn't have a priority system thousands of the clubs 'customers' would be rightly pissed off. "Real supporters"? "Plastic"? "It's not just a 'hobby'" What's so funny?
1964FOX Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Personally I think our priority system is a good one and even more so now you can get bonus points for attending mid week away games. Should people be rewarded for attending unattractive mid week fixtures in the winter? - YES.
Houdini Logic Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 You can return tickets if you can't use them. You don't pay for the away tickets at the beginning of the season. You don't know what you're talking about, do you. 1, But do you have to fork out for them first and then return them? 2, I think you need to see the key word 'agreeing' not 'actually' 3, I never said I did, hence the jokey emoticon. Unfortunate you had to drag it down a level...
Bayfox Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Why would you - if you go to almost every away game YOU CAN PREBOOK ALL OF YOUR AWAY TICKETS INCLUDING CUP GAMES. You could have guaranteed your tickets to Norwich and Chelsea but didn't. I never stated that I have been to most this season, so no i don't pre book as I don't want money taken out my account if i'm on holiday or the ticket prices are to expensive, the onus is on me having to return them. Sorry for the shouting but this is the third time I've pointed this out in this thread. If you didn't prebook then you don't have a gripe. I have a gripe that the club fcuked up my status if we get 6k for chelsea as P1 i was pretty sure I would get one but as I have an ongoing dispute with the club I nearly missed out Which automatically assumes you are entitled to a reward for doing a hobby. You could be entitled to rewards for stopping a robbery, finding money or saving someone's life - travelling to Southend for the seaside promotion party was hardly an arduous chore. Maybe not, but Carlise away having just got of a plane from cuba in the cold of december was!!! To my mind the priority system is nothing more than a fancy way of people claiming to be better fans than others and therefore have a greater entitlement to tickets. It's bollocks. Going to a match is a hobby and having more money or living more local should accrue a person no advantage over anyone else. Then comes out the blahblahblahgloryhuntersblahblahblahplasticfansblah shit - which does nothing other than confirm that this is the mindeset behind those who feel they deserve to be treated better than others. I went to Glastonbury every year - should that give me priority over others when the tickets are released? YES WHY NOT!!
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 It looks as if the main defence is I PAY for a season ticket I GO to away games. Same old same old, basically you are claiming that you have brought the right. Very much a sod you jack I alright jack. I have held a ST in the past but would never do so again. Why you ask two reasons, one I would find it hard to find the money now two why would I encourage the club to pay stupid amounts of money. Do I enjoy the game any less ? Don't I support the club as much? It's a shame that you don't feel privileged that you have ST and can go to all matches. A lot of fans would love the chance to make that choice. Do you really belive that your love of LCFC can only be judged bye what you spend on the club ? There are some sad ones on here for sure. Did you not cry when we went down to the 3rd Division ? Oh but I am not a ture fan am I
BrummieFOX Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 It looks as if the main defence is I PAY for a season ticket I GO to away games. Same old same old, basically you are claiming that you have brought the right. Very much a sod you jack I alright jack. I have held a ST in the past but would never do so again. Why you ask two reasons, one I would find it hard to find the money now two why would I encourage the club to pay stupid amounts of money. Do I enjoy the game any less ? Don't I support the club as much? It's a shame that you don't feel privileged that you have ST and can go to all matches. A lot of fans would love the chance to make that choice. Do you really belive that your love of LCFC can only be judged bye what you spend on the club ? There are some sad ones on here for sure. Did you not cry when we went down to the 3rd Division ? Oh but I am not a ture fan am I Yes, if you PAY for a season ticket, then you have 1st priority to tickets. Until you propose a fairer way, then you don't have an argument mate. It is absolutely fair in my opinion.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 1, But do you have to fork out for them first and then return them? No, only at point of issue. If it is returned you get the full credit with a couple of days. It has been the way for seasons and a form is always available upon request with a season ticket application.
GingerrrFox Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 The simple fact is in the clubs eyes ST holders take priority because they make a financial commitment to the club at the beginning of every season which plays a part in the overheads for the entire club. That is why ST holders get priority and rightly so in my opinion! There are over 15,000 ST Holders and there was only 6,000 tickets for Chelsea away hence why they are limiting it to ST holders, there are not enough tickets to satisfy every ST holder so members and general sale cannot complain.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 How is that fair if I go to all the home games and 13(?) away? I fail to understand your point. What has 'fair' got to do with anything. It's not being snobbish, I simply am more commited and a better fan Do you seriously not see the conflict between these two statements? A better fan? I haven't seen a live game once this season: does that make you a better fan than me? Despite me travelling home and away for years going back to the 1970s? The club gets no financial benefit whether you travel to Blackpool or Millllll. You want rewards for travelling to away games, which is your choice, a hobby, a past-time? What's so funny? Because those terms are meaningless.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 The simple fact is in the clubs eyes ST holders take priority because they make a financial commitment to the club at the beginning of every season which plays a part in the overheads for the entire club. Income from ST sales is not an overhead.
RonnieTodger Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I agree that some fans make a lot more effort to get to games than others and don't live in the Leicester area, so they're not season ticket holders. However, what "fairer" system can they implement? The amount of miles you've travelled to go to games? I think the STH 1,2,3, is a decent system. Why should season ticket holders miss out because someone that lives in Kent (for example), wants to go to Chelsea and feels he deserves it because he can't get to every game? P.S. I think Kitchandro is pretty much spot on.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Until you propose a fairer way, then you don't have an argument mate. It is absolutely fair in my opinion. So it's your opinion we should be courting and all opinions have to be judged by you, the mighty BrummieFOX? He's fully entitled to his opinion whether it carries your favour or not.
Daggers Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I agree that some fans make a lot more effort to get to games than others Effort? "Effort" comes into play when attempting something taxing like a chore or applying basic SPG to your posts. Explain what "Effort" is involved in going to watch a football match?!
The Padster Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 I hope when the day I am able to afford a season ticket comes around, I don't just automatically become as pretentious as some of you.
RonnieTodger Posted 15 March 2012 Posted 15 March 2012 Effort? "Effort" comes into play when attempting something taxing like a chore or applying basic SPG to your posts. Explain what "Effort" is involved in going to watch a football match?! OK. Here's a few: 1) Getting up earlier 2) Travelling further 3) Getting home later I live 2 miles from the ground. Do you think I put in the same amount of effort to get to the ground as someone from another county?
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