Convince Me!

[davieG]

Thanks for all the replies it's sounds like there's a few out there think similar thoughts.

What if we do a QPR? or a Southampton? or a Newcastle?

Honestly I think i'd miss the football way too much.

QPR, I'd hate to be supporting them, they have more of what I dislike than LCFC, as for the other 2 as I said it's not just about winning, even many Newcastle fans don't like how Newcastle is being run.

Would you be having these thoughts if you were a Pompey fan, or would you be throwing your £100 into the pot to help save the club ?

It could be a lot lot worse,,,,

I felt closer to the club during administration than I do now.

No offence indended here but it seems like a lot of people think the club owe them something!

I cannot see how anyone sitting in the stands can dare judge a player and how 'bothered' they are about putting in a good performance. I don't think any fan has a right to suggest a plater is not trying. Thats simply not true.

If you want to watch football, buy a tickey. If you cant be bothered and are not enjoying it then dont! I don't see how its a case of needing to be convinced. If you need convincing then you shouldnt renew.

Personally, win or lose I enjoy the game. Sometimes its frustrating but this is not life and death. Its simply a game! A game for entertainments purposes and if your not feeling entertained then dont turn up.

I really do woner what people would be suggesting about this season if we had not had the massive (over)hype.

Where did I say the club owed me something or that the players weren't trying?

As for needing to be convinced maybe you're correct, I was looking for some people who felt they belonged and optimisitic for the future of the club and the game in general so that maybe some of it would rub off.

This.....

Saturday's are ABOUT FOOTBALL.. What else are you gonna do Davie?

If you're like me it's in your blood... And it will never go away.

As Babs said, it's not the same listening to it on the radio. You gotta be there to be able to truly be able to assess and judge and analyse. You can't even do that properly watching it on a stream IMO.

Just get your season ticket mate and don't deny yourself. You're one of us through thick and thin.

That's my point Saturday is about football but is it just through habit because that's what it's starting to feel like.

Part of being a football fan is going through the highs and lows. Yes, we are experiencing a low point but you need to stick with us until the end and when promotion comes how great will it feel. Never give up supporting your team no matter the result. Things will change next season and you have to believe. As the say, "Its in the blood".

I've no problem with highs and lows I've been through plenty at LCFC, the highs of Matt Gillies, Bloomfield, Wallace, MON and also the lows of Pleat, McLintock, Hamilton, Taylor, Holloway so that is not the issue as I stated.

What things do you think will change all I can see is yet another turnover of players, which seems to be what many fans want.

Young Davie, no football on Saturdays means more time with wife... season ticket it is

I spend all week with the wife and it really is no problem to add another day.

[Captain...]

As for needing to be convinced maybe you're correct, I was looking for some people who felt they belonged and optimisitic for the future of the club and the game in general so that maybe some of it would rub off.

Probably looking in the wrong place for that.

The World's most negative fans football forum award goes to... drum roll please...

[Petchy]

The only person who can ultimately make the decision is yourself. This'll be my last full season as a Season Ticket holder too due to not having as much time any more. Most likely be cheaper for me to fork out for individual games rather than a ST where I'll miss a lot of them!

[inckley fox]

Over the last few weeks I've given up too, and I also survived the Pleat (and Hamilton) eras. The stewards issue bothers me massively, and I still think it's worse at City than elsewhere.

In spite of the constant 'you obviously don't remember-' remarks, I think this IS the worst spell in the club's history. In 91 when Little arrived we'd only been four seasons out of the top flight, now it's eight years. The results are better than they were then, but I'm not convinced the players have the same potential for success as Walsh, Wright, Oldfield, Kelly, Kitson, Russell etc. This team's a lot older than those players (who were all under 25 in 91) for a start. To me they seem like guys who have forged a career out of years spent 'looking more or less alright' and failing at the same time

If we were a band we'd be The Bluetones, but The Bluetones when they were going through their latter-day career blip. Players like Nugent reek of The Bluetones - and don't get on your high horses because it's time we stopped bumming everyone bar Wellens, Howard and Gallagher and started accepting that everyone (Nugent, Kasper, Konchesky, Danns, Bamba and St.Ledger included) has a share of the blame.

My biggest concern, however, is that I think another managerial change would kill us off. I like to think we're at the back end, or at the very least in the second half of our hiatus, but if we were to fire Pearson I suspect it'd set us back a long way. I'd expect to see the club wound-up and doing a Florenta Viola before it got back in the big time.

I'll never understand why so many City fans have been so determined for Pearson to fail since day one, though it might serve as a clue for those of you looking for a 'deeper reason' for our malaise. I wanted O'Neill in too, and I was only luke-warm about Pearson but what I've seen from some supporters in the past four months has put Sheff Utd '96 in the shade.

On the other hand, if we do go bust, at least we'll get rid of the stewards.

[ScouseFox]

I had similar thoughts.

Sort of to do with all the "what's even the point, this is shit" etc, but just as much the fact that I'm pretty sure half of our home games, maybe even more, i think it's 11/23 or 12/23 have not been Saturday 3pm. I travel from quite far away, obviously, so simply can't do midweek, Mondays, stupid kick off times.

I'll renew, I always do, because even if i only go to about 10 games on my ST it's still cheaper than buying 10 individual tickets, and someone else I know can lend it for midweeks etc.

I think, sad as it sounds, I'd miss being there.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I can understand just how you feel Davie G.

I think we were spoilt in the early sixties, when both you and I first started supporting. " The Filberts " Then we were one of the top teams in the country, and had the best Leicester side ever, who played not only as a unit, but wonderful natural skills also, which inspired other playsers (( Davie Gibson, Gordon Banks etc were legends ).

Looking at us now, that feeling of pride in the side, has diminished into oblivion. Petty minded, greedy, and lazy players and poor management has contributed to our downfall, over the years, with a few exceptions, such as the Martin O'Neil era.

If I was still living in Leicester, I would be in a similar dilemma as yourself.

On a footnote, the Police Officers you mentioned, are allocated specific tasks, from which they cannot deviate. The failure regarding road crossing was due to the relevant policing department, pre match planning.

Anyway, Davie G., I hope you make the right decision, one way or the other.

[inckley fox]

No offence indended here but it seems like a lot of people think the club owe them something!

I cannot see how anyone sitting in the stands can dare judge a player and how 'bothered' they are about putting in a good performance. I don't think any fan has a right to suggest a plater is not trying. Thats simply not true.

If you want to watch football, buy a tickey. If you cant be bothered and are not enjoying it then dont! I don't see how its a case of needing to be convinced. If you need convincing then you shouldnt renew.

Personally, win or lose I enjoy the game. Sometimes its frustrating but this is not life and death. Its simply a game! A game for entertainments purposes and if your not feeling entertained then dont turn up.

I really do woner what people would be suggesting about this season if we had not had the massive (over)hype.

Well the club owes plenty of people plenty of things in a very real and financially binding sense. That doesn't extend to the fans, but in a moral sense I think most commentators would agree that clubs owe their fans something. I certainly feel due a little return - on the pitch - for my investment because that's how life tends to work. If the club agrees with you that they owe nothing to their customers and needn't worry about convincing them to turn up, then that would be what we call a Ratner-esque approach to trade. It would result in us going bust.

Some people are suggesting that this club already has this approach. And that may go some way to explaining the frequently staid atmosphere and 2/3 attendance, as well as the lack of success. And, as we know, our financial security is by no means guaranteed.

As for not having the right to suggest that someone isn't trying, well, presumably that means that when you watch a film you don't like you refrain from moaning about shoddy acting, lazy production or hackneyed scripts. Of course people have the right.

I can't help but find your attitude rather passive. I demand more from my team so I make a lot of noise and fuss about it. There's always someone at hand to tell me that 'it's only a game' and I 'should calm down'. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but would that be you?

Now here's a radical thought; I'd say that making noise, demanding more from our team and getting behind the manager rather than calling for him to be fired every five minutes was pretty much the fan's part of the deal when they buy a ticket. But to deny that the players have any duties to fulfil, other than turning up, is just bizarre.

[inckley fox]

Actually, erase the manager bit. Disagree as I may, that's your right too.

[foxaholic]

Whilst it isa very cynical view why exchange a nice fat contract in the Championship for probablly being kicked out of the club if promotion iswon . Our results apart from Coventry against teams in the bottom 7 look like a betting scam although obviously not and if repeated against the top 7 would have meant a relegation scrap . I am old enough to remember when there was a perception that certain clubs didnt want to go up and nearby clubs got helped to stay up particularly London ones . The second point is now the exact opposite but the first the players if not the staff do look suspect .

[stockyfox]

I have a lot of sympathy for Davie G’s point of view. Having been an out-and-out City fan for 62 years, Leicester City is not just an essential part of my life, it is the collective name for the blue corpuscles in my blood stream.

Having come to College in Manchester in 1963, then married a wonderful girl from Ashington, Northumberland, we settled in Stockport but everybody who knows me round here knows I’m a total Leicester City fanatic and I proudly wear the badge on my Burrda Sport outdoor coat.

So much so that many of them, although they are Man Utd or City or Stockport fans themselves, they actually do keep a watching brief on Leicester’s fortunes and results. To add some variety, my neighbour is a West Ham fan and his wife is a Burnley fan.

Several reasons, not least being health, restrict the games I can get to but it was nice when a fan spoke to me at the Doncaster game and said ‘I know you! You sit in B1’.

I am envious of those fans who not only get to all the home games but most of the away fixtures too but I am also mindful that that support comes at a cost which cumulatively can put an inevitable strain on family finances and when the team produces not for the first time, a performance and a result as we witnessed last Saturday, then it really does hurt.

And when Davie G says that for him, there is not the same affinity with the current players, I totally agree. In the olden days, we were emotionally closer to and identified far more with the team and individual players than we do today.

I used to get inwardly upset and down in the dumps for several days if and when the team lost, home or away and I would be quietly dreading see our opponents score. Nowadays, I’m more likely just to shrug my shoulders and am no longer surprised when we concede.

I don’t particularly want to enter the Nigel Pearson In / Out arguments but one of the features of MON’s tenure was that he not only wore his heart on his sleeve and inspired the players, he also inspired the crowd. Of the current Championship managers, to my mind, the nearest equivalent is Nigel.......no not Pearson......but Atkins.

[Lambert09]

if you dont enjoy it anymore dont go. But personally for me watching the side win is the highlight of my week and whenever I miss a win Im gutted.

An example is the Brum game at home..... missing Schlupp scoring the winner is a horrible feeling..... and lets face it we will walk the league next year..... I joke

[Leicester_Loyal]

As sad as it seems, I honestly don't know what I'd do with my life on Saturdays without football, I'm dreading the summer 3 month break, its going to kill me.

However, I will boycott games that are silly prices, £35 for Leeds away for an 18 year old, thats a complete joke.

I'm kind of annoyed that I'm addicted to football, it costs so much money, and sometimes I come away disappointed, but without it, I don't know what I'd look forward to on the weekends. As much as I don't want to, I can't stop attending matches and as much as the team loses or doesn't put in as much effort as they sometimes should, its still my football team and I can't just give up on us.

Born a fox, die a fox.

[renards]

Davie G

Really enjoy your posts, seem to be the 'Daddy' on here and always refreshing to read and generally agree.

30K + posts show the level of your commitment.

There are many people who share your feelings, more so that i know than I have ever known (long term - not kids)

The social aspect keeps us all going, being able to talk about a game having seen it rather read about it, it basically in our blood.

If we ever stopped to really think or the social side disappeared we would all stop.

Couple of thoughts

1) Pal of mine in TV says there will come a time when fans are paid or at least allowed in free to tv games as so many seats empty + looks crap on the tele.

2) Football ligitamises drinking- without getting your ears chewed by her indoors- How else could anyone leave the house at 11.30- booze until 2.55 watch/ sleep for 90 mins, have another couple whilst talking crap, get home and sleep.

[purpleronnie]

Davie G

30K + posts show the level of your commitment.

Or he has too much time on his hands.

[TrentFox]

You know, one of the really interesting and wonderful things about this thread is I feel I've learned more about the people who post on here in the last three or four hours than I had done previously in the last however long ! One of DG's original comments was about "feeling part of something". I feel more a part of something knowing that (for example) Stocky is of a certain age, where his wife is from etc etc etc than ever I do with the usual intransigence that prevails on here with people just insulting one another. Fascinating thread as it's making us question what it is that makes us spend our time and money on this club. More please !!!!!

[Daggers]

I'm not sure I could live with the thought of not seeing them should we go there again.

Believe me, there's life after football. It's only a game - and a pretty crap one at that.

[cecchini]

Of course you have to renew!

I've lived in Luxembourg for the last 8 years, had season tickets for the first two then realized i simply wasn't going to see more than a few games per season so stopped buying them. Being a Leicester fan involves a roller coaster ride of emotions, i still go to great lengths (and expense) to see games when I can (I do consider myself lucky that i am able to) my kids wander around with City tops/shorts/t-shirts/hats etc. I swear when we lose (the wife tells me i'm unreasonable for at least a day) scream and shout when we win, get irritated reading some of the opinions and rubbish on this forum etc. etc.

Leicester will never be Manu or ManCity, we didn't have the support when in mattered in the 80's and 90's when big teams got bigger and small teams got smaller, unless someone is really willing to spend HUNDREDS of millions on the team for no return, it simply won't happen.

Leicester is MY team, its also OUR team, it will always be. I miss the banter at the ground, the moaning, complaining, silly chants, funny comments, after game bollocks etc.

I even worry which news service to use to get the results as some are luckier than others....

anyway - renew, you know it makes sense

[Earl Shilton Lee]

I'm not sure if I'll renew myself. I enjoy going to the game because I get to spend some time with friends and if I'm honest for most of the time we're speaking about things which have nothing to do with football. The most I've celebrated a goal this season was Hinckley's late equaliser in a 2-2 draw with Tamworth in the FA Cup 1st Round. In fact it's the game I've most enjoyed this season.

Hinckley aren't my club but what a novelty it was to be so close to the action on the pitch, to hear the manager and coach shouting instructions and to actually feel connected to what was going on in front of me. It felt like a football match. The commitment of the players - on both sides - was never in doubt, even if the quality was lacking. And the atmosphere was something else. Again better than anything I've seen or heard at King Power Football Club this season.

The chances are I won't put my money where my mouth is and get myself a season ticket at Hinckley this summer. I'll renew at Leicester and I'll bitch and moan but do nothing about it. I'm part of the problem. But there most definitely is a problem. Going to watch Leicester City (and I suspect most other clubs of our stature or bigger) is akin to going to the cinema now. If it's a good match I'll enjoy it but I don't feel part of it.

[LE4Dan]

If you have much confidence in Pearson changing things around, giving a full season in charge then by all means you go for it