sphericalfox Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 You keep digging, I'll keep laughing. Just let me know when you're ready to man up and ask for a rope. You keep making generalised criticism yet you show me nothing. If you can't it's okay I understand.
MooseBreath Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 You keep making generalised criticism yet you show me nothing. If you can't it's okay I understand. Until you back up your 'knowledge' with facts you are disqualified. These are your rules, remember. Don't get mad because you've made yourself look a bit silly.
sphericalfox Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Until you back up your 'knowledge' with facts you are disqualified. These are your rules, remember. Don't get mad because you've made yourself look a bit silly. If you can't understand it, and in a vain attempt to keep face you resort to wind-ups 'don't get mad...', then I suppose you win the argument. You seem to fall into that mode quite often. Does it not get tiresome? I don't need to explain myself anymore. Show me where I contradict myself and I'll happily concede. Otherwise go fishing for someone else.
Captain... Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 So the reason that you love labour so much is becuase they spent loads of money (that we didn't have) and that they aren't tories? Seriously? I don't love labour and I have never voted Labour, but I understand why people do, even if they don't fully agree with their policies one of the main reasons to vote Labour is that they are not the Tories, the Tories show time and time again, they are as a whole corrupt, greedy and incompetent, at least Labour had the good grace to hide their indiscretions much better. Surely you can also understand why people would think we would be better under Labour because under the last Labour Government things were better, much better than they are now, and people want that back. To be honest I don't see much of a difference between Labour and the Tories neither are going to make the big changes we need to break the cycle of Boom and Bust, as has been said this is just the big bust to Labour's slow and steady boom, they are too preoccupied with each other. Can we please stop all this Labour lover and Tory boy, regardless of your political leanings you should be able to have an unbiased opinion on the current state of things. So answer me this, do you actual think that the current government has done a good job, please answer without using the word Labour, just look at what they have actually achieved in the last 2 years, and please highlight any area in particular that you think they have excelled at.
Daggers Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 1-0 to the Tory boys I think. Seeing as you all left Numbnuts in charge of a keyboard today, by my reckoning you are currently 315 down on the day.
Webbo Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Office of national statistics, made up? They're very bitter these lefties, not like us in the nasty party. Not very gracious in defeat either.
absolutelegend Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 So answer me this, do you actual think that the current government has done a good job, please answer without using the word Labour, just look at what they have actually achieved in the last 2 years, and please highlight any area in particular that you think they have excelled at. Not on everything, but I genuinely feel that when it comes to by far the most important issue (the national deficit) they are really trying to make the right sort of tough, unpopular decisions that are necessary to get us out of our current sitiation - e.g. ones like the one that kicked off this thread. I think they are trying to get things moving in the right direction, but with a co-allition government they are finding this a lot harder than they would if they had outright control.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 I've really touched a nerve with you today haven't I? Keep it up, you'll achieve everything you ever wanted one day.
Rincewind Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 I was hoping Clegg would be less of a wimp but he's like a blue tit who's afraid to leave the nest.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 I was hoping Clegg would be less of a wimp but he's like a blue tit who's afraid to leave the nest. Could he really do anything else at the time? It was either let the Tory boys run with a minority, go with them into a coalition or prop up Labour in the most farcical rainbow coalition ever seen in a Government. The Liberals should be commended, they took a hard decision that destroyed them electorally to try and do something for the greater good of the country.
Captain... Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Not on everything, but I genuinely feel that when it comes to by far the most important issue (the national deficit) they are really trying to make the right sort of tough, unpopular decisions that are necessary to get us out of our current sitiation - e.g. ones like the one that kicked off this thread. I think they are trying to get things moving in the right direction, but with a co-allition government they are finding this a lot harder than they would if they had outright control. I agree something needed to be done about the deficit, but I do think that the measures being taken by the coalition are going to seriously damage the society they are trying to preserve, the frustrating thing about it all is that despite all these cuts the deficit is still huge and the debt is getting bigger and bigger. A more moderate approach to cuts would have had a similar impact on the deficit but without the potentially damaging impact on social matters.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 I agree something needed to be done about the deficit, but I do think that the measures being taken by the coalition are going to seriously damage the society they are trying to preserve, the frustrating thing about it all is that despite all these cuts the deficit is still huge and the debt is getting bigger and bigger. A more moderate approach to cuts would have had a similar impact on the deficit but without the potentially damaging impact on social matters. This is a point I have made continually, we are still borrowing more and more everyday to cope despite the cuts. What people are going to be like with the real austerity starts I have no idea.
Captain... Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Could he really do anything else at the time? It was either let the Tory boys run with a minority, go with them into a coalition or prop up Labour in the most farcical rainbow coalition ever seen in a Government. The Liberals should be commended, they took a hard decision that destroyed them electorally to try and do something for the greater good of the country. But they didn't have the balls to do it properly, and got screwed over by Cameron on the AV vote, they should have let a minority Government rule and they could have pretty much picked which legislation to support from either side, it might also have forced Labour and Conservative to meet on middle ground rather than just blindly opposing anything proposed by the other. Ultimately they let their supporters down on their key policies and it has cost them dearly in the polls, any minor concessions the tories have made will pale against the Lib Dems backing tutition fees.
Daggers Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 I've really touched a nerve with you today haven't I? Keep it up, you'll achieve everything you ever wanted one day. **** me, there is absolutely no limit to your ignorance. I'm laughing at you, you thick twat. I'm revelling in every retarded, moronic post you make.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 But they didn't have the balls to do it properly, and got screwed over by Cameron on the AV vote, they should have let a minority Government rule and they could have pretty much picked which legislation to support from either side, it might also have forced Labour and Conservative to meet on middle ground rather than just blindly opposing anything proposed by the other. Ultimately they let their supporters down on their key policies and it has cost them dearly in the polls, any minor concessions the tories have made will pale against the Lib Dems backing tutition fees. They didn't get screwed over on AV at all, in typical Lib Dem fashion they saw just thought they had something that had far more support than it actually did. AV or PR never had a chance in this country (and despite being a tory boy I actually think PR is the best voting system for a true democracy) He didn't really have much of a hand to go to the table with, considering the pre-poll predictions they completely flopped and unfortunately promises you can make when you have no actual chance of getting into government where never going to be an option, though him ansd Danny did very well out of it.
Guest MattP Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 **** me, there is absolutely no limit to your ignorance. I'm laughing at you, you thick twat. I'm revelling in every retarded, moronic post you make. Do you really think I care Dave? You consistently insult anyone who disagrees with you on here and come across as one of the rudest posters on the board, you do it in a way any cyber bully would be proud of, keep revelling, I hope it provides you with the much needed enjoyment.
Webbo Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 The coalition will probably split up towards the end of next year, giving the voters 18 months before the next election to forget all that went before, giving both parties a chance to blame the other, pleasing their own natural supporters. Events seem to be being choreographed leading up to a split.
MooseBreath Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 It'll take a generation before anyone takes the lib dems seriously again. Hopefully their total failure prevents any other whimsical left wing cowards from getting anywhere near power for the forseeable future.
Captain... Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 The coalition will probably split up towards the end of next year, giving the voters 18 months before the next election to forget all that went before, giving both parties a chance to blame the other, pleasing their own natural supporters. Events seem to be being choreographed leading up to a split. You might be right, but I can see Clegg hanging on to power as long as he can, and then standing down as leader to allow the party to recover.
Rincewind Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 What would do if you were him now? Stick to my principles?
Webbo Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 You might be right, but I can see Clegg hanging on to power as long as he can, and then standing down as leader to allow the party to recover. They'll probably make him a Euro commissioner, giving him a reason to resign.
I am Rod Hull Posted 27 June 2012 Posted 27 June 2012 Working class Tories FTW Don`t come running to me when Mr wolf is nibbling on your last hobnob..... Plastic and proud
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