davieG Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 BBC Full report http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-18567855 The prime minister has suggested that people under the age of 25 could lose the right to housing benefit, as part of moves to cut the welfare bill. Scrapping the benefit for that age group would save almost £2bn a year. In an interview in the Mail on Sunday, David Cameron said he wanted to stop those who were working from feeling resentment towards people on benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 If he wants to stop those who are working feeling resentment for people on benefits, is not making a big hoo-ha out of cutting benefits because of the alleged cost a good start? And surely people under the age of twenty five are the people most in need of housing benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 To prevent young scroungers breeding like rabbits in houses provided for them by the State, Cameron should reinstate the Workhouse, bring back criminal prosecutions for bastardy and take their kids off them and send them to the colonies...oh, and bring back the birch and National Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 This wiould only cause more young people to become homeless but why should Cameron and other politicians care they already have one or more houses. Damm I must stop this radical leftie way of thinking and start to only think about myself and maybe start reading the Mail so as to believe EVERY person under 25 claiming is an umarried mother with half a dozen kids just to enable them not to work. That is the only sensible way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Can anyone explain why if I go to university my parents are expected to help support me, but if I don't and am unemployed or low paid I can apply for a range of benefits including housing benefit because I am an adult who has left home? Never understood that. I guess my question is, if your family can support you by providing a roof over your head, then why should someone else's have to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Rod Hull Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 "David Cameron said he wanted to stop those who were working from feeling resentment towards people on benefits". That`s fvcking lame and full of so many holes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964FOX Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 This wiould only cause more young people to become homeless but why should Cameron and other politicians care they already have one or more houses. Damm I must stop this radical leftie way of thinking and start to only think about myself and maybe start reading the Mail so as to believe EVERY person under 25 claiming is an umarried mother with half a dozen kids just to enable them not to work. That is the only sensible way of thinking. Being a leftie is the way forward comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Surely the way to do that is to dispel the misunderstanding people have about the unemployed and remove the resentment that governments are at fault for spreading in the first place. Or is that too obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Rod Hull Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 If he wants to claw back £2bn a year from people we resent, he should try the banks. Fvcking hypocrite...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowwolf Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 To prevent young scroungers breeding like rabbits in houses provided for them by the State, Cameron should reinstate the Workhouse, bring back criminal prosecutions for bastardy and take their kids off them and send them to the colonies...oh, and bring back the birch and National Service. Alternatively just stop all benefits and watch them rip themselves apart, job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Cameron's solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowwolf Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 "David Cameron said he wanted to stop those who were working from feeling resentment towards people on benefits". That`s fvcking lame and full of so many holes..... yes it is a bit of a sweeping statement but that is how a lot of people in this country are feeling about so called " benefits ", Just about every one knows someone who is milking the system , knocking out kids year in year out because they have nothing better to do like getting a job and expecting the rest of us to pay for their upbringing. Like it or not the socialist experiment has failed due to never really understanding human nature in the first place. No other country in the world is stupid enough to have a welfare system so beneficial that it pays to be unemployed. And I can back that statement up because I have a brother in-law who goes out of his way to tell me he could not get a job that would pay him as much as his unemployed father of four benefits do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgefox Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 If he wants to claw back £2bn a year from people we resent, he should try the banks. Fvcking hypocrite...... No thanks as my mrs wont get her big fat bankers bonus.Believe that if you like,but i might know different,but an easy target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 I guess my question is, if your family can support you by providing a roof over your head, then why should someone else's have to? If. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Cameron's solution I try to bite my tongue but I have to say Ken you don't half talk some shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB89 Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 How about we tell the banks we are not paying them there £1000 million because we havent got it? The cititizens of this country didnt run up this mass debt funnily enough it was the goverment of banking nincompoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 yes it is a bit of a sweeping statement but that is how a lot of people in this country are feeling about so called " benefits ", Just about every one knows someone who is milking the system , knocking out kids year in year out because they have nothing better to do like getting a job and expecting the rest of us to pay for their upbringing. Like it or not the socialist experiment has failed due to never really understanding human nature in the first place. No other country in the world is stupid enough to have a welfare system so beneficial that it pays to be unemployed. And I can back that statement up because I have a brother in-law who goes out of his way to tell me he could not get a job that would pay him as much as his unemployed father of four benefits do. Yes but go into any pub and hear the same stories. You will also hear about how all immigrants are illegal and are given five houses upon arrival, non-white people beating up white people and given a slap on the wrist, unmarried schoolgirls having six kids before they are twenty to avoid work (bringing up a baby is not working) and you will also hear that Darth Vader is planning to take over the world. Well that part is not true. He only intends taking over Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewind Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 I try to bite my tongue but I have to say Ken you don't half talk some shit. Well I am in good company on here. I'm happy in the knowledge that it is my own shit and not what I have read in some newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Cameron's big society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Yes but go into any pub and hear the same stories. You will also hear about how all immigrants are illegal and are given five houses upon arrival, non-white people beating up white people and given a slap on the wrist, unmarried schoolgirls having six kids before they are twenty to avoid work (bringing up a baby is not working) and you will also hear that Darth Vader is planning to take over the world. Well that part is not true. He only intends taking over Britain. I find your lack of fear disturbing... "It encourages people not to work and have children It doesn't really though - the cost of raising those children far outweighs the basic help they get from the government to pay for those costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Well I am in good company on here. I'm happy in the knowledge that it is my own shit and not what I have read in some newspaper. Maybe you should try a little reading. How is cutting housing benefit for under 25s the same as thousands of men riding around the country on trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 [/font][/color] It doesn't really though - the cost of raising those children far outweighs the basic help they get from the government to pay for those costs. If benefits are your only source of income how can that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowwolf Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 Yes but go into any pub and hear the same stories. You will also hear about how all immigrants are illegal and are given five houses upon arrival, non-white people beating up white people and given a slap on the wrist, unmarried schoolgirls having six kids before they are twenty to avoid work (bringing up a baby is not working) and you will also hear that Darth Vader is planning to take over the world. Well that part is not true. He only intends taking over Britain. Yes I agree with you mate on all you have just said. but my point was the system is so beneficial in some instance that it does not pay people to get a job and come off benefits, now that is partly the governments fault and partly because employers pay such piss poor wages, but either way it's the tax payers ( Jimmy Carr excluded ) who have to have such ridiculous amounts taken out of their wages and the stealth tax such as V.A.T petrol alcohol ect to keep up the level of benefits paid out to the unemployed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowwolf Posted 24 June 2012 Share Posted 24 June 2012 I find your lack of fear disturbing... [/font][/color] It doesn't really though - the cost of raising those children far outweighs the basic help they get from the government to pay for those costs. Sorry but that is just no true . Ref my other post I have a brother in-law who openly tells me and anyone else who will listen he could not get a job that would pay anywhere near as much as he gets in benefits for being unemployed with four kids , and don't forget the child benefits as well. The thought that a packet of condoms is relatively cheaper than having another child has never crossed his mind ( he has had all four while being unemployed ) Yes it is his right to have as many children as he wants but not his right to expect the rest of society to pay for their upbringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 24 June 2012 Author Share Posted 24 June 2012 The problem is virtually every benefit introduced for those in genuine need of help will suck in those that don't need it, the only way around it is complicated, expensive means testing that ends up costing more than you save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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