MooseBreath Posted 15 July 2013 Posted 15 July 2013 America is going to be ballin' with this abundance of gas and oil. Money and power = back to the west. A game changer.
leicsmac Posted 15 July 2013 Posted 15 July 2013 Fantastic - finite resource is still finite. But now we can at least kick the can down the road until we're all gone and leave it to the next generation eh? Cynicism aside, this is good in that it gives us more time to work out the kinks on renewables/nuclear fusion and get them ready as a replacement. And more time is always a good thing.
Zingari Posted 15 July 2013 Posted 15 July 2013 The term "Peak Oil" just means the point in time when the global production of oil will reach its maximum rate, after which production will gradually decline, and at the point at which production could no longer keep up with demand . It doesn't mean there isn't much oil left Surely this will still happen at some stage with ever growing populations demanding more power , Regardless of whether it's this year or another 50 years there probably will come a time of peak oil , so warnings of it may be premature , but not complete bullshit
Bellend Sebastian Posted 15 July 2013 Posted 15 July 2013 When I first heard about Peak oil I naively thought it was something to do with The Peak District, and when I saw the title of this thread I thought, how typical of the people of North Derbyshire and South Yorkshire to make wildly over inflated claims about their access to natural resources. For the millionth time, it just shows how wrong you can be. As oil is a finite resource, it should be carefully managed, like other limited assets. This mean you grab as much as you can and then use it before anyone else does. Not much cheesecake left? You could wait and have it tomorrow, but if you do that some fat twat is bound to get there first. Eat it now, all of it, stuff your face like you mean it, you beautiful great pig. Doesn't that feel good? It doesn't? Don't look at me, it's all someone else's fault
cambridgefox Posted 15 July 2013 Posted 15 July 2013 When I first heard about Peak oil I naively thought it was something to do with The Peak District, and when I saw the title of this thread I thought, how typical of the people of North Derbyshire and South Yorkshire to make wildly over inflated claims about their access to natural resources. For the millionth time, it just shows how wrong you can be. As oil is a finite resource, it should be carefully managed, like other limited assets. This mean you grab as much as you can and then use it before anyone else does. Not much cheesecake left? You could wait and have it tomorrow, but if you do that some fat twat is bound to get there first. Eat it now, all of it, stuff your face like you mean it, you beautiful great pig. Doesn't that feel good? It doesn't? Don't look at me, it's all someone else's fault you were not alone,I thought exactly the same.reminded me of Blackadder "Green Gold"
Jordan Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 Fantastic - finite resource is still finite. But now we can at least kick the can down the road until we're all gone and leave it to the next generation eh? Cynicism aside, this is good in that it gives us more time to work out the kinks on renewables/nuclear fusion and get them ready as a replacement. And more time is always a good thing. Yes, but the questions of whether or not fracking is a good thing for both communities near oil/gas wells and the environment at large are other cans of worms.
OzFox Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 Yes, but the questions of whether or not fracking is a good thing for both communities near oil/gas wells and the environment at large are other cans of worms. Yep...umpteen more years of trashing the environment. Just great. I'm sure the residents of North Dakota and Texas will be delighted with this news. Doesn't look good in Australia either. Big chunks of Queensland are already covered in roads and fracking wells. Rivers mysteriously bubbling gas all of a sudden. Huge port facilities & LNG plants are being constructed on the edge of the Barrier Reef, which is already under threat
ozleicester Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 Someone recomended this in the Doco's thread a year or two ago... worth a watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8
Vacamion Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 This can only further delay my acquisition of a 'Mr Fusion' generator to power my motor.
Zingari Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 This can only further delay my acquisition of a 'Mr Fusion' generator to power my motor. I know a little how you feel I've just taken off the solar panel on my roof rack .and the 12v motor out of the boot I was looking forward to driving around laughing at all the stranded motorists queuing up for petrol . Ah well , maybe in 20 years time
MooseBreath Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 Yep...umpteen more years of trashing the environment. Just great. I'm sure the residents of North Dakota and Texas will be delighted with this news. Doesn't look good in Australia either. Big chunks of Queensland are already covered in roads and fracking wells. Rivers mysteriously bubbling gas all of a sudden. Huge port facilities & LNG plants are being constructed on the edge of the Barrier Reef, which is already under threat We we could build wind farms and tidal lagoons etc but you environmentalists moan about them as well. Can't win. Any kind of progress, there's the environmentalists, standing in the way. Parasites.
Rincewind Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 I know a little how you feel I've just taken off the solar panel on my roof rack .and the 12v motor out of the boot I was looking forward to driving around laughing at all the stranded motorists queuing up for petrol . Ah well , maybe in 20 years time As I don't drive I feel I've already done my bit.
OzFox Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 We we could build wind farms and tidal lagoons etc but you environmentalists moan about them as well. Can't win. Any kind of progress, there's the environmentalists, standing in the way. Parasites. We're just here to make your life a misery. I quite enjoy it to be honest. Although I doubt if you'd call it progress if they stuck a fracking well at the bottom of your garden
MooseBreath Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 We're just here to make your life a misery. I quite enjoy it to be honest. Although I doubt if you'd call it progress if they stuck a fracking well at the bottom of your garden If they paid me as much as they've paid the farmers in the US i'd be absolutely delighted. There was a BBC horizon 'doco' on fracking the other week. Pretty much dispelled all the myths around the whole gas getting into the water thing. They interviewed a few of the people claiming they'd suffered ill effects and those people were, without meaning to be too judgemental, complete and utter scumbags. White trash out for a quick buck. Liars.
OzFox Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 If they paid me as much as they've paid the farmers in the US i'd be absolutely delighted. There was a BBC horizon 'doco' on fracking the other week. Pretty much dispelled all the myths around the whole gas getting into the water thing. They interviewed a few of the people claiming they'd suffered ill effects and those people were, without meaning to be too judgemental, complete and utter scumbags. White trash out for a quick buck. Liars. It's an interesting point. Basically comes down to whether you believe the locals, or the oil execs. We've run a couple of docos in the last year on coal seam gas, one in america and one here in australia. Both crammed with people moaning about health effects and gas in their water supplies (setting fire to your tap water always looks good on tele) They got some quite startling pictures of the Condamine river in Queensland bubbling like it's boiling, with dead fish everywhere. The farmer said it started after the wells were installed, industry people said it's natural. Who do you believe? what struck me is that in America they put down 501 chemicals into the frack, and legally they only have to name a fraction of them
Guest MattP Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 Yes, but the questions of whether or not fracking is a good thing for both communities near oil/gas wells and the environment at large are other cans of worms. Considering Fracking could possibly send Blackpool and Liverpool into the sea it's an absolute no brainer for me.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 We we could build wind farms and tidal lagoons etc but you environmentalists moan about them as well. Can't win. Any kind of progress, there's the environmentalists, standing in the way. Parasites. When I first read this post I had scrolled down so that the name was off the top of my screen. I wondered who posted it until I read the last word which completely gave it away!
AyewJoking Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 As I don't drive I feel I've already done my bit. you even do all your gassing online aswell. Very green
Rincewind Posted 16 July 2013 Posted 16 July 2013 you even do all your gassing online aswell. Very green Maybe my post needed a
OzFox Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 If they paid me as much as they've paid the farmers in the US i'd be absolutely delighted. There was a BBC horizon 'doco' on fracking the other week. Pretty much dispelled all the myths around the whole gas getting into the water thing. They interviewed a few of the people claiming they'd suffered ill effects and those people were, without meaning to be too judgemental, complete and utter scumbags. White trash out for a quick buck. Liars. Watched that Horizon doco. It doesn't say anything of the sort about gas in the water. In fact, it says the scientist found "methane gas levels in water were 17 times higher within a kilometre of a gas well". And the trailer trash were a cliche. Plenty of more reliable people he could have interviewed. You were obviously brainwashed by the opening 35 minutes which is like an industry promotional video/geologists wet dream http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v02pX-lBp0g Have a butchers at this. Much more betterer. http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/04/01/3725150.htm
OzFox Posted 28 July 2013 Posted 28 July 2013 Just been to Byron bay for a few days. Fracking hasn't made much of an impression with the local hippies and hobby farmers....99% of residents in the county have voted against it.
MooseBreath Posted 28 July 2013 Posted 28 July 2013 Just been to Byron bay for a few days. Fracking hasn't made much of an impression with the local hippies and hobby farmers....99% of residents in the county have voted against it. 99% of residents of Byron Bay would still be living in mud huts if they boycotted every bit of progress that ever had the potential to cause a small problem or two.
OzFox Posted 28 July 2013 Posted 28 July 2013 99% of residents of Byron Bay would still be living in mud huts if they boycotted every bit of progress that ever had the potential to cause a small problem or two. Most of them are hippies and surfers...mud huts are considered a luxury You're using that progress word again. The technology is amazing yes, but whether it's safe and clean is far from proven. Plus each well needs an access road for thousands of trucks (that's something else "Horizon" conveniently skipped over). I'm guessing the residents of Byron don't want to trash their beautiful landscape for a few bucks
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.