Why do some people actually dislike Pearson as manager

[MC Prussian]

Has everyone forgotten Craig Levein?

Two words: Selective memory.

[MC Prussian]

sawdust ?

Looks as if you made an attempt at creating a complete sentence and then stopped midway through.

[Mike Oxlong]

You are obviously presumptuous, you are off the mark by a long way. l dont give two sh its about his personality. l don't like him because he is a terrible manager, amongst the worst we ever had.

l have no idea why some people try to make a case for him, mostly clueless people who can't see whats in front of them. He can't pick a team, he can't use substitutions to the teams advantage, he plays players out of position, he never gets the best out of any player, he turns decent players into rubbish, he doesn't know his best team, formation or players, he doesn't ever out think the opposition, he's rude, boring, arrogant. l've heard every excuse for the bloke and for me none stand up.

His first time here was some of the worst, boring soul destroying football we have ever produced. This nonsense about him saving us is unbelievable, winning the third division is not major plus, we shouldn't have been there and we had some bad performances with him continuing playing players who where hopeless, Oakley, Howard, Wellens.

He gets rid of any player who as any sort of personality, i've heard he's a bully, l can't confirm that but it looks like it could be the case. He got rid of players, just because they where Svens signings, he was trying to prove he was a better manager than Sven. In your dreams Nigel !

Can any of you honestly see him managing a Premiership side ?

most rational people will so no, so that in its self is enough to know he's not good for us going forward. He is a disaster but some idiots won't see it.

Did Mr Pearson shit in your Coco Pops?

[chris_lcfc_85]

7 pages of more waffle about our manager...... i havent even read through as its pointless.

He's here now, he's our manager, and he'll give his all so we need to get behind him.

 

Dont matter what manager we have, they will all have their faults.

 

Some of you dont realise that whilst NP has his faults, he's a good manager

[Foxhateram]

you can  dare to say it, but the side that  got promotion under Bruce was rebuilt by him, and not in the slightest bit related to the side built by  pearson. do some research so  your opinion isn't laughed out of the room.

He didn't say anything about that current squad being Pearsons he was just stating that Nige built a good squad there that challenged at the top.

As for personality none of you know the bloke. If he's a bully? Why does he get constant respect and praise from the players, If he he is all those insulting words? Then why do the players feel like there part of a family? When your ready to think rationally about personalities and not just spout rubbish because he doesn't tell other teams our plans to stronger. Like hollowhead used to.

As for results he has got us to our top finishes in a decade twice now and has a high win percentage. As for the football being played, in spells we looked silky last year (but as witnessed under Sven, good football doesn't suite this league).

All this shite about the league being mediocre last year? I don't understand this statement. So if a league has competitive teams from top to bottom, where teams at the bottom reach record points and teams at the top dont run away with it, it's weak? This to me shows a strong league and shows that the gap between leagues is getting smaller and the gap between bottom 6 of the prem and the champ is really not that big.

Time some of you started realising that to get out of this league you have to play shit football alongside the nice play, you have to play your cards close to chest or managers like Bruce last year play mind games, you have to work with a small squad cus we have no money and at this moment in time our options are limited.

We have built a strong squad that will challenge with our hands tied, respect that and appreciate it. Start being realistic and support rather than moan, we haven't even kicked a ball yet.

One last word the last time we got out of this league, what type of football did we play? Think of that big man up top who ad lots of work to do, getting onto our keepers huge kicks!

[MC Prussian]

that is what is wrong your last statement is the only one that holds any trurh .

... and then you have people like suffolk fox declaring a rhetorical question as a statement, completely (and intentionally?) missing the point.

[BNET]

And those that don't like Pearson wonder why people just can't take you seriously? Constant over the top statements, insults thrown at him and anyone who actually thinks he's not one of the worst managers we've ever had.

 

Sousa, Megson, Sven, Levein, Pleat, Taylor, McLintock and yes Holloway to name just a few. Anyone trying to defend the clown for what he did here by pointing out what he did elsewhere is missing the point. That wasn't here, that was there, this is about worst managers for us.

 

He played Wellens out of position in League One... now that is clever considering he was playing for Doncaster then.

So what you are doing now Babylon is totally misquoting me to prove a point, if you had any sense you would know that is pointless and just makes you dishonest.

 

lf you are misquoting by mistake because you can't grasp what  you read, well where did l say he played Wellens out of position ?

[ManorFox]

So what you are doing now Babylon is totally misquoting me to prove a point, if you had any sense you would know that is pointless and just makes you dishonest.

 

lf you are misquoting by mistake because you can't grasp what  you read, well where did l say he played Wellens out of position ?

BNET, you're fighting a losing battle mate, the facts that in 4 years at this level he hasn't managed a promotion, or in the last 17 league games he managed 3 wins seems totally irrelevant to some.  It's okay though pal, we did win League One a few years back.

[MC Prussian]

You are obviously  presumptuous, you are off the mark by a long way. l dont give two sh its about his personality. l don't like him because he is a terrible manager, amongst the worst we ever had.

 

l have no idea why some people try to make a case for him, mostly clueless people who can't see whats in front of them. He can't pick a team, he can't use substitutions to the teams advantage, he plays players out of position, he never gets the best out of any player, he turns decent players into rubbish, he doesn't know his best team, formation or players, he doesn't ever out think the opposition, he's rude, boring, arrogant. l've heard every excuse for the bloke and for me none stand up.

 

His first time here was some of the worst, boring soul destroying football we have ever produced. This nonsense about him saving us is unbelievable, winning the third division is not major plus, we shouldn't have been there and we had some bad performances with him continuing playing players who where hopeless, Oakley, Howard, Wellens.

 

He gets rid of any player who as any sort of personality, i've heard he's a bully, l can't confirm that but it looks like it could be the case. He got rid of players, just because they where Svens signings, he was trying to prove he was a better manager than Sven. In your dreams Nigel !  

 

Can any of you honestly see him managing a Premiership side ?

 most rational people will so no, so that in its self is enough to know he's not good for us going forward. He is a disaster but some idiots won't see it.

Let's dissect this rambling:

a) Pearson can pick a team, he picked a team that brought us as high up as second in the table. So he must be doing something right.

b) Which players did he use out of position for an extended period of time, honestly? I can think of exactly... none. Schlupp can play both LB and ST, and using Dyer as left-back (once and in a part-time role?) doesn't qualify. Knockaert can play out wide or as a CF in the middle, so to make him less predictable for the opposition.

c) Schlupp seems to blossom under him, Morgan is a rock in defense, we've got a great goalkeeper with potential, two good main strikers and Matty James seems to be the revelation of this year's pre-season. So much for your "never getting the best out of any player".

d) Which players did he turn to rubbish exactly? Was it his undoing or the player's influence? Or maybe a bit of both or even more?

e) If memory serves correctly, Pearson always used the best available starting eleven from his squad.

f) His preferred position is 4-4-2, with hints of a 4-3-3 if necessary (last season). He's now experimenting with a 3-5-2.

g) Watford at home in the playoffs. Facing a team with some of the best (loan) players in the league, we played a great game and won 1-0. That was Pearson outsmarting Zola.

h) If you have an issue with his attitude and how it comes across in the media - your problem.

i) We've also played some of the best, most spectacular football in decades under Pearson - in particular, during the first half of last season.

j) Winning League One is not a major plus? You still have to win what's ahead of you and the League One campaign was a tight affair up until the last five to ten games.

k) "We shouldn't have been there"? But we were, and all of that mainly thanks to Ian Holloway. When you talk about players being used out of position and soul-destroying football, do you remember our "style" of play under Holloway? Do you?

l) Oakley, Howard and Wellens were great servants to the club up until their early to mid-thirties, before injuries and age took their toll.

m) If by players with "personality" you're thinking of people who love to show off in public, then yes: Pearson doesn't like them, because they should focus on their footballing abilities first.

 

Overall, just a load of assumptions and personal attacks that border on the verge of libel. You say it yourself: You don't know whether he's a bully or not, you just assume that is the case.

 

And where and when did Pearson ever attempt being the better manager than Sven? The same Sven-Göran Eriksson that brought in a lot of overpaid, lazy footballers, some with severe personal issues - and leaving us with a wage bill of unheard proportions? Really? I'd love you to back up that claim.

 

The only disaster here is your argumentation, which is mainly just a collection of angry hot air.

[MC Prussian]

BNET, you're fighting a losing battle mate, the facts that in 4 years at this level he hasn't managed a promotion, or in the last 17 league games he managed 3 wins seems totally irrelevant to some.  It's okay though pal, we did win League One a few years back.

Which other manager has achieved promotion at the same club, interspersed with a one-year stint at another club in between?

 

And yes, it's okay we won League One a couple of years back - otherwise we wouldn't have been back in the Championship and none of us would be having this discussion right now.

[Babylon]

So what you are doing now Babylon is totally misquoting me to prove a point, if you had any sense you would know that is pointless and just makes you dishonest.

 

lf you are misquoting by mistake because you can't grasp what  you read, well where did l say he played Wellens out of position ?

 

Misquoting? A whole sentence regarding league one and playing players out of position in which you included Wellens? How exactly is anyone supposed to "grasp" it any differently.

 

His first time here was some of the worst, boring soul destroying football we have ever produced. This nonsense about him saving us is unbelievable, winning the third division is not major plus, we shouldn't have been there and we had some bad performances with him continuing playing players who where hopeless, Oakley, Howard, Wellens.

[Babylon]

BNET, you're fighting a losing battle mate, the facts that in 4 years at this level he hasn't managed a promotion, or in the last 17 league games he managed 3 wins seems totally irrelevant to some.  It's okay though pal, we did win League One a few years back.

Is this in the same way that it seems irrelevant to you that one of those years was with a team just promoted from league one? Another one was dismantling a relegated team massively overspending? That another year was not even a full season, taking over from what we can see know were a bunch of overpaid massively average players? And that whilst massively disappointing to tail off as we did, it was he and his team that had us in 2nd place that to playing some pretty good football along the way.

[5waller5]

Blimey,

 

I don't want to throw petrol on the discussion and this is my opinion and mine alone ..... Not a NP Hater, just dislike his arrogance, communication with the fans, and don't rate him as a manager.

 

I would love to study psychology because this debate is illustrating what i think happens alot and i'd like to understand why .....

 

It seems to me that after a mediocre and lacklustre pre season we are going through the motions until NP is sacked. His failure last season and form for the last half of the season should have ensured that happened at the start of the summer but for whatever reason it didn't.

 

For me this is becoming so obvious that the pro NP fans are finding it more difficult to defend him, and therefore the argument becomes more personal and insulting as it becomes more finely balanced.

 

I wish i could look into the future and see this board 10 games into the season .... I have my own view which is that we'll be in the bottom half and the arguments will be really hotting up!!!

[fleckneymike]

Blimey,

 

I don't want to throw petrol on the discussion and this is my opinion and mine alone ..... Not a NP Hater, just dislike his arrogance, communication with the fans, and don't rate him as a manager.

 

I would love to study psychology because this debate is illustrating what i think happens alot and i'd like to understand why .....

 

It seems to me that after a mediocre and lacklustre pre season we are going through the motions until NP is sacked. His failure last season and form for the last half of the season should have ensured that happened at the start of the summer but for whatever reason it didn't.

 

For me this is becoming so obvious that the pro NP fans are finding it more difficult to defend him, and therefore the argument becomes more personal and insulting as it becomes more finely balanced.

 

I wish i could look into the future and see this board 10 games into the season .... I have my own view which is that we'll be in the bottom half and the arguments will be really hotting up!!!

 

Barring an absolute catastrophe he won't be sacked. The fact we cannot/will not sign any more players indicates that this season is going to be one where just standing still will be seen as the goal. At the seasons end many of the remaining big earners will depart, as I suspect will Pearson, a new man will be installed and we'll begin again, again.

[Happy Fox]

This season is a crunch season, the contract of our better players ends at the end of the season likewise the manager and some of the deadwood (Gallagher etc)

 

Promotion is the only thing that is going to save us otherwise I can see things being very difficult for us.

[Babylon]

For me this is becoming so obvious that the pro NP fans are finding it more difficult to defend him, and therefore the argument becomes more personal and insulting as it becomes more finely balanced.

Waller you have been as quick to dish out insults as others on this board.

[MC Prussian]

Blimey,

 

I don't want to throw petrol on the discussion and this is my opinion and mine alone ..... Not a NP Hater, just dislike his arrogance, communication with the fans, and don't rate him as a manager.

 

I would love to study psychology because this debate is illustrating what i think happens alot and i'd like to understand why .....

 

It seems to me that after a mediocre and lacklustre pre season we are going through the motions until NP is sacked. His failure last season and form for the last half of the season should have ensured that happened at the start of the summer but for whatever reason it didn't.

 

For me this is becoming so obvious that the pro NP fans are finding it more difficult to defend him, and therefore the argument becomes more personal and insulting as it becomes more finely balanced.

 

I wish i could look into the future and see this board 10 games into the season .... I have my own view which is that we'll be in the bottom half and the arguments will be really hotting up!!!

I don't see what has changed in the general consensus on here regarding Pearson... the majority has always maintained that he has his flaws, but that he is a decent, good manager (albeit not (yet) a great one).

No one has ever defended Pearson himself - the defense was brought up as a reaction to the hateful and personal and unheard vile attacks from people like you that usually contain more personal opinion than facts.

 

You're obviously just trying to do what you claim you're not doing - adding more petrol to the fuel. Great job.

 

The perceived arrogance you mention is just that - perceived. Between what the media hawk and what a man really is like, lie many shades of grey.

[Leicester_Numan]

Barring an absolute catastrophe he won't be sacked. The fact we cannot/will not sign any more players indicates that this season is going to be one where just standing still will be seen as the goal. At the seasons end many of the remaining big earners will depart, as I suspect will Pearson, a new man will be installed and we'll begin again, again.

Bang on

[BNET]

Let's dissect this rambling:

a) Pearson can pick a team, he picked a team that brought us as high up as second in the table. So he must be doing something right.

b) Which players did he use out of position for an extended period of time, honestly? I can think of exactly... none. Schlupp can play both LB and ST, and using Dyer as left-back (once and in a part-time role?) doesn't qualify. Knockaert can play out wide or as a CF in the middle, so to make him less predictable for the opposition.

c) Schlupp seems to blossom under him, Morgan is a rock in defense, we've got a great goalkeeper with potential, two good main strikers and Matty James seems to be the revelation of this year's pre-season. So much for your "never getting the best out of any player".

d) Which players did he turn to rubbish exactly? Was it his undoing or the player's influence? Or maybe a bit of both or even more?

e) If memory serves correctly, Pearson always used the best available starting eleven from his squad.

f) His preferred position is 4-4-2, with hints of a 4-3-3 if necessary (last season). He's now experimenting with a 3-5-2.

g) Watford at home in the playoffs. Facing a team with some of the best (loan) players in the league, we played a great game and won 1-0. That was Pearson outsmarting Zola.

h) If you have an issue with his attitude and how it comes across in the media - your problem.

i) We've also played some of the best, most spectacular football in decades under Pearson - in particular, during the first half of last season.

j) Winning League One is not a major plus? You still have to win what's ahead of you and the League One campaign was a tight affair up until the last five to ten games.

k) "We shouldn't have been there"? But we were, and all of that mainly thanks to Ian Holloway. When you talk about players being used out of position and soul-destroying football, do you remember our "style" of play under Holloway? Do you?

l) Oakley, Howard and Wellens were great servants to the club up until their early to mid-thirties, before injuries and age took their toll.

m) If by players with "personality" you're thinking of people who love to show off in public, then yes: Pearson doesn't like them, because they should focus on their footballing abilities first.

 

Overall, just a load of assumptions and personal attacks that border on the verge of libel. You say it yourself: You don't know whether he's a bully or not, you just assume that is the case.

 

And where and when did Pearson ever attempt being the better manager than Sven? The same Sven-Göran Eriksson that brought in a lot of overpaid, lazy footballers, some with severe personal issues - and leaving us with a wage bill of unheard proportions? Really? I'd love you to back up that claim.

 

The only disaster here is your argumentation, which is mainly just a collection of angry hot air.

Not worth spending time answering that load of shite, lifes too short and you are too thick.

 

One thing disqualifies the entire post on its own, by the way " Howard, Oakley and Wellens where great servants too the club"  Ah Ah fukcking ah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MC Prussian]

Not worth spending time answering that load of shite, lifes too short and you are too thick.

 

One thing disqualifies the entire post on its own, by the way " Howard, Oakley and Wellens where great servants too the club"  Ah Ah fukcking ah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your lack of effort is a great display to everybody else that you can't reply back... because you can't.

 

Added by the lovely and convenient use of the terms "shite" and "thick", which further emphasize my point and expose you for who you really are.

[BNET]

Your lack of effort is a great display to everybody else that you can't reply back... because you can't.

 

Added by the lovely and convenient use of the terms "shite" and "thick", which further emphasize my point and expose you for who you really are.

You don't read things do you !  l said lifes too short and your too thick, why would l want to waste my time explaining to you the facts when you are too dumb to grasp any of it.

[MC Prussian]

You don't read things do you !  l said lifes too short and your too thick, why would l want to waste my time explaining to you the facts when you are too dumb to grasp any of it.

It's not my fault when you're unable to reply to my post. I'd love to hear some of your "facts".

 

And if life were too short, why bother making all that fuss about Pearson in the first place, eh?

[5waller5]

I don't see what has changed in the general consensus on here regarding Pearson... the majority has always maintained that he has his flaws, but that he is a decent, good manager (albeit not (yet) a great one).

No one has ever defended Pearson himself - the defense was brought up as a reaction to the hateful and personal and unheard vile attacks from people like you that usually contain more personal opinion than facts.

 

You're obviously just trying to do what you claim you're not doing - adding more petrol to the fuel. Great job.

 

The perceived arrogance you mention is just that - perceived. Between what the media hawk and what a man really is like, lie many shades of grey.

 

 

I think alot has changed. 

 

Vile attacks??? I make my opinion known as it's a forum and my opinion is clear ..... but vile attacks?? Search my posts for any "vile attack" and I'll take responsibility for it .... Hopefully you'll also take responsibility for making out that because i disagree with you you assume my opinion to be a vile attack.

[MC Prussian]

I think alot has changed. 

 

Vile attacks??? I make my opinion known as it's a forum and my opinion is clear ..... but vile attacks?? Search my posts for any "vile attack" and I'll take responsibility for it .... Hopefully you'll also take responsibility for making out that because i disagree with you you assume my opinion to be a vile attack.

Okay, including you in that bunch was over the top and overly generalizing. Frankly, you seem to be on the more elaborate side, just like monsell1976. Apologies.

[5waller5]

Waller you have been as quick to dish out insults as others on this board.

 

Dishing out insults???

 

"Mrs Pearson" = Attempt at a bit of light hearted banter. Not an insult. But I'll apologise again if you found it so offensive.

Okay, including you in that bunch was over the top and overly generalizing. Frankly, you seem to be one the more elaborate side, just like monsell1976. Apologies.

 

Thanks