MC Prussian Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 Well, because they're very often wrong? : : How did us being favourites to win the league in 2011/12 get on again? Simply laughable, never seen more obvious clutching at straws in my life. Not to forget that bookies can be manipulated - there have been enough scandals in the past involving the betting mafia.
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 Who cares. I'm sure he doesn't give them the first thought - and good on him. If I was him I wouldn't give a toss either. I am more than sure that there are plenty of other teams who would jump at the chance to have Pearson as gaffa. Sadly I don't think the same can be levelled at anyone on this forum. Perhaps that's why we should leave the football side of stuff upto him and let's just watch it. I'd guess at we are probably better equipped to watch than judge. No point you contributing to a football forum then is there? That's a ridiculous argument.
Monsell1976 Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 Who cares. I'm sure he doesn't give them the first thought - and good on him. If I was him I wouldn't give a toss either. I am more than sure that there are plenty of other teams who would jump at the chance to have Pearson as gaffa. Sadly I don't think the same can be levelled at anyone on this forum. Perhaps that's why we should leave the football side of stuff upto him and let's just watch it. I'd guess at we are probably better equipped to watch than judge.Very constructive, fans should be seen not heard, just hand over money and be quiet, with no opinions.Maybe just maybe if he was a little less arrogant, and presents himself more like what people claim he is, an approachable, nice bloke, maybe, just maybe alot more would take to him, and more likely to stick by him and cut him some slack when things are not going to plan. And I'm with col, if people opinions bother you so much why bother reading this forum. And yes I bit at a w u m comment😞
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 I don't know you as a person, either. But the main difference between the two of us is that I hardly employ harsh and ridiculous names and terms in order to describe somebody that I don't like. You ought to work on your vocabulary. Maybe you are a nice chap indeed - the way you come across on here is more or less the complete opposite. And yes, it's easy enough to pick out individual words - because you were the one petty enough using them in the first place!! As I said, I respond in kind. Try picking out the posts they respond to starting with the word idiot, that was used first by Mark W. However, you are becoming boring. If trying to be some kind of detective on here turns you on, then that is your own affair, but it is a little sad, and you have my deepest sympathy.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 At the risk of a ban............ I know what is happening to you here as I find it happening to me - you defend your position but invite in all sorts of attacks - merely answering them makes you look weak and therefore the only way is to surrender to the masses or dig your heels in and run the risk of becoming quite irrational - I'm sure your man will live up to your expectations for the season and for that I am slightly envious of you
suffolk fox Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 mc prussian, you've turned this from a thread entitled 'why-do-some-people-actually-dislike-pearson-as-manager', to 'why you are not allowed to dislike pearson as a manager and why your opinion is not as valid as mine due to my vast and endless knowledge of all things leicester city'. at least babylon has the good grace to acknowledge when somebody has a point, even if he disagrees with it. your endless rambling as to why our opinions are wrong is turning into an epic of war and peace proportions. really, if you like him, stay off this thread and start one entitled 'why-do-some-people-like-pearson-as-manager'. i'll stay off that one, deal? Totally agree with your post. mcprussian only see's blue tinted glasses all the time and only through his beloved Nigel Pearson. He is deffo a stooge of the management or even Mr Pearson himself or a family member. I stated it before it's like being in the Nazi party. You are not allowed to criticise the manager or anything the management team do else you will be hounded for it. Even if you state reasonable facts to back up your argument they will counter it with pointless sarcasm. Laughably they say they can criticise the manager as anti pearson lovers can't see the opposite and come up with some positives in his managerial style. This statement is simply not true. It's easy to hide behind the majority and accept mediocrity and many are now turning and saying this will be good for the club mid table finish etc, etc. No it won't. I want us to do well this season and truly hope we will. qutie frankly some of the ridiculous comments made by the pro Pearson brigade are laughable and they still can't come up with a reasonable excuse as to why we only won three games in seventeen at the end of last season.
Babylon Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 hull team last game of 2012/2013 season stockdale, chester, mcshane, faye, elmohamady, boyd, meylor, quinn, rosenior, simpson, brady. oct 29th 2011 close to last pearson game in charge. basso, chester, dudgeon, rosenior, hobbs, cairney, koren, evans, mclean, fryatt, brady. 3 out of 11 the same, or 27%: hobbs and fryatt were on the subs bench for most of the games last season because bruce doesn't rate them. research is everything. Isn't that 4 players? Chester, Rosenior Simpson and Brady (on loan when Nigel was there). I think it might be fare to actually pick who played the most games last year as a fair comparison. The list for starts in the league above 20 games are as follows: Chester 43 (Pearson) Elmohandy 41 (Bruce) Stephen Quinn 41 (Bruce) Koren 37 (Pearson) Alex Bruce 29 (Bruce) Brady 28 (Pearson) Faye 28 (Bruce) Meyler 25 (Bruce) Mcshane 20 (already there) Aluko 22 (Bruce) Evans 23 (Pearson) Hobbs 20 (Pearson) Simpson 27 (Pearson) Stockdale 24 (Bruce) So 6 were signed by Pearson one was already there and Bruce signed 7 of the most started 14 players. That doesn't even include Rosenior who started 15 and came off the bench 17. I'm sure Fryatt would have started more had he not been injured for virtually the whole season seeing as he was their top scorer last year.
Dan Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 If they weren't wrong sometimes there would be no betting market at all .... but you can be assured they are right more often! It's a 1 in 24 chance. 23 of those 24 managers in what is a very unpredictable scenario will not lead to a bookies pay out. There's absolutely no way they can lose no matter who goes first.
Ozwin Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 I love it when topics like these pop up. Makes me look like a relatively sane Leicester City supporter.
MC Prussian Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 Totally agree with your post. mcprussian only see's blue tinted glasses all the time and only through his beloved Nigel Pearson. He is deffo a stooge of the management or even Mr Pearson himself or a family member. I stated it before it's like being in the Nazi party. You are not allowed to criticise the manager or anything the management team do else you will be hounded for it. Even if you state reasonable facts to back up your argument they will counter it with pointless sarcasm. Laughably they say they can criticise the manager as anti pearson lovers can't see the opposite and come up with some positives in his managerial style. This statement is simply not true. It's easy to hide behind the majority and accept mediocrity and many are now turning and saying this will be good for the club mid table finish etc, etc. No it won't. I want us to do well this season and truly hope we will. qutie frankly some of the ridiculous comments made by the pro Pearson brigade are laughable and they still can't come up with a reasonable excuse as to why we only won three games in seventeen at the end of last season. This could get very fascinating. I'm all ears...
MC Prussian Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 Totally agree with your post. mcprussian only see's blue tinted glasses all the time and only through his beloved Nigel Pearson. He is deffo a stooge of the management or even Mr Pearson himself or a family member. I stated it before it's like being in the Nazi party. You are not allowed to criticise the manager or anything the management team do else you will be hounded for it. Even if you state reasonable facts to back up your argument they will counter it with pointless sarcasm. Laughably they say they can criticise the manager as anti pearson lovers can't see the opposite and come up with some positives in his managerial style. This statement is simply not true. It's easy to hide behind the majority and accept mediocrity and many are now turning and saying this will be good for the club mid table finish etc, etc. No it won't. I want us to do well this season and truly hope we will. qutie frankly some of the ridiculous comments made by the pro Pearson brigade are laughable and they still can't come up with a reasonable excuse as to why we only won three games in seventeen at the end of last season. If you had paid more attention in history class, you'd know what a proper Nazi would do for a next step. Yes:
BNET Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 Well, because they're very often wrong? : : How did us being favourites to win the league in 2011/12 get on again? Simply laughable, never seen more obvious clutching at straws in my life. It seems that all Pearsonites are divs, if this thread is anything to go by anyway !
Leicester_Numan Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 It seems that all Pearsonites are divs, if this thread is anything to go by anyway !Feel free to join those of your intellectual capaciy on Bentley's Roof
Grewks Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 Totally agree with your post. mcprussian only see's blue tinted glasses all the time and only through his beloved Nigel Pearson. He is deffo a stooge of the management or even Mr Pearson himself or a family member. I stated it before it's like being in the Nazi party. You are not allowed to criticise the manager or anything the management team do else you will be hounded for it. Even if you state reasonable facts to back up your argument they will counter it with pointless sarcasm. Laughably they say they can criticise the manager as anti pearson lovers can't see the opposite and come up with some positives in his managerial style. This statement is simply not true. It's easy to hide behind the majority and accept mediocrity and many are now turning and saying this will be good for the club mid table finish etc, etc. No it won't. I want us to do well this season and truly hope we will. qutie frankly some of the ridiculous comments made by the pro Pearson brigade are laughable and they still can't come up with a reasonable excuse as to why we only won three games in seventeen at the end of last season. What is this 'you cannot criticize the manager' B******s?' No-one has a problem with and criticism as long as it is justified. The only problem i have on here is the comments such as 'Badger face' which really add nothing to the situation whatsoever, as well as other individuals who comment on his personality, which again does not interest me. Many managers over the years have shown that personality traits have no bearing on the success of a football club. For every calm and collected Roberto Martinez you have an arrogant Fergie/Mourinho. Criticize the way Pearson does his job, not his appearance, personality, private life etc.... p.s Before I am labelled a 'Pearson lover', i myself have many criticisms of the man. - His lack of plan B - An inability to pick a side/tactic for a specific opposition player/team - The decline of performances from strikers after spending time under his management. We could get rid of him, but at the moment i fail to see why it would make financial sense. It is his squad, his coaching staff, do you realise the cost for the club to get rid of them? Also, i believe he does have the perfect recruitment policy required during these financially worrying times. And i am sure the response to this would be 'Well Steve Walsh is responsible for most of the scouting', but we must remember pearson wanted walsh, and is the reason we have such a good scout at the club. We may not play exciting football all the time, but Pearson himself is still developing as a manager and has shown pre-season that he is willing to learn, many fairly high profile managers don't seem this willing, so hopefully over the next season or two Pearson and his team finally click.
Happy Fox Posted 29 July 2013 Posted 29 July 2013 There is nowt more to debate he is here to stay for this season nothing more than that imo. Achieve promotion the owners may offer him a new contract but I reckon the owners would get rid of him and bring in a higher profile manager of better quality (MON) Don't achieve promotion, he will be gone, the owners are in a win win situation.
5waller5 Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 There is nowt more to debate he is here to stay for this season nothing more than that imo. Achieve promotion the owners may offer him a new contract but I reckon the owners would get rid of him and bring in a higher profile manager of better quality (MON) Don't achieve promotion, he will be gone, the owners are in a win win situation. Apart from losing momentum with their marketing this season .... I think they've already written off this season and are keeping it low key deliberately.
Manwell Pablo Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 It's a boring boring subject. I can understand negativity towards him, I think he's done this season and will ultimately fail, fans seem to under estimate the task ahead of him, even with the mini revival at the end, our form was still shite, I think the best he can hope to achieve is to cling on the coat tails of the play offs for most of the season and walk away from the club at the end of his contract. Does this mean I think he should be sacked? Absolutely not, no matter how he achieved it, he managed to claim sixth place last year despite cutting our costs, and I'd view this as success. So therefore he deserves another shot because whilst I have my predictions, I wouldn't want the club sacking the manager based on the predictions of a fan, I'd want them to do it based results not a crystal ball. There's a chance I could be wrong, so in that regard I can't understand people calling for his head. Questioning his methods fine, but calling for the axe to fall after a decent season? Silly. Plus I wouldn't have the first clue who to bring in instead anyway.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 The fact that some of us are anti Pearson, and others are pro Pearson, does in all truth have no bearing on our football club. It is good for a bit of banter, and some mud slinging, but that is about all. As I have posted previously, he will I believe be here until his contract runs out, so both sides should be happy.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 I am pleased the thread uses the word " dislike" as opposed to "hate."
Babylon Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 It seems that all Pearsonites are divs, if this thread is anything to go by anyway ! When Dangerous Tigers opinion looks moderate compared to yours, you might want to take a step back.
5waller5 Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 It's a boring boring subject. I can understand negativity towards him, I think he's done this season and will ultimately fail, fans seem to under estimate the task ahead of him, even with the mini revival at the end, our form was still shite, I think the best he can hope to achieve is to cling on the coat tails of the play offs for most of the season and walk away from the club at the end of his contract. Does this mean I think he should be sacked? Absolutely not, no matter how he achieved it, he managed to claim sixth place last year despite cutting our costs, and I'd view this as success. So therefore he deserves another shot because whilst I have my predictions, I wouldn't want the club sacking the manager based on the predictions of a fan, I'd want them to do it based results not a crystal ball. There's a chance I could be wrong, so in that regard I can't understand people calling for his head. Questioning his methods fine, but calling for the axe to fall after a decent season? Silly. Plus I wouldn't have the first clue who to bring in instead anyway. Is anyone calling for his head? I think we're all pretty much accepting of the fact he has somewhere between 7 and 43 games ahead of him as Leicester City Manager. If it were a sweepstake i'd take 12.
Babylon Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 Is anyone calling for his head? I think we're all pretty much accepting of the fact he has somewhere between 7 and 43 games ahead of him as Leicester City Manager. If it were a sweepstake i'd take 12. Lucky 13
blueoveru Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 I dislike Pearson for his previous attempts at our club ........forget the promotion from Div1 we were the classiest team in that Division for years and if we had'nt achieved that promotion we would in all probability be there now, because we would have had to sell 50% of that side or more, probably to keep the club afloat. His target last Season was Promotion and nothing less would suffice, thanks to SGE's ignominious attempts at lower league football where you cannot buy your way out of trouble ....he had no vision that to see that work rate stood for more than creativity in lower divisions. I have only one clue as to why we did'nt achieve that Goal and that was our game against a poor Wolverhampton side which we could have lost but their managements ability to see through our plan at half-time and bring in an extra man in midfield second half cost us dearly as we could not get to grips with this ploy in later matches.
5waller5 Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 Lucky 13 I think they'd avoid 13 just for the sake of it ... don't want to get a reputation of having a game that your manager gets fired on!! Otherwise i'd have gone with 13 myself!!
Babylon Posted 30 July 2013 Posted 30 July 2013 I dislike Pearson for his previous attempts at our club ........forget the promotion from Div1 we were the classiest team in that Division for years and if we had'nt achieved that promotion we would in all probability be there now, because we would have had to sell 50% of that side or more, probably to keep the club afloat. You wouldn't have got much considering we signed the majority of them on frees or they were on loan or from the youth team. There does seem to be a misconception that we went down with a good team and he benefited, or that he spent lots of money. Agree with your point about Wolves.
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