GingerrrFox Posted 28 April 2014 Posted 28 April 2014 Grandad your opinion isn't valid because you're a Liverpool fan.
Dan Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 PFA Team of the Year Gerrard - 8 (2000-01, 2003-04, 2004-05, 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09, 2013-14) Scholes - 2 (2002-03 & 2006-07) No contest. lol
Guest MattP Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Can you imagine what Gerrard is thinking at the minute? Must be awful this week for him, he's done something and he's not sure whether it's going to haunt him for a few days, a few weeks, a year or two or the rest of his life.
Guest ttfn Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Can you imagine what Gerrard is thinking at the minute? Must be awful this week for him, he's done something and he's not sure whether it's going to haunt him for a few days, a few weeks, a year or two or the rest of his life. Written with the empathy of a man who has spent many an hour in a GUM clinic.
Grandad. Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Yeah but you've got a big fat picture of a dickhead playing for Liverpool under your posts. So doubt the opinion is unbiased. If Scholes played for Liverpool they'd of won the league at least once in the last 20 years. Grandad your opinion isn't valid because you're a Liverpool fan. I started the post in the first place you pair of dimwits. Instead of telling me I can't have an opinion, I find it quite amusing you can't contest anything I have said. Scholes would not of been apart of a title winning team if he played for Liverpool, not a chance and that is pretty stupid to even suggest that. How can anyone even suggest that? Scholes was brilliant, he just isn't a Steven Gerrard.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Welcome to your opinion, but my opinion is your opinion is absolute bollocks.
Grandad. Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Welcome to your opinion, but my opinion is your opinion is absolute bollocks. Wow and people thought I was the immature Gobshite on here, thanks for taking that title off me. At least when I gob off, I can put an argument across, you? Well that last reply summed you up.
Bert Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Look, everyone is gonna have their opinions and rightly so. But putting down PFA team of the year selection as an argument is frankly embarrassing
Grandad. Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Hardly embarrassing using a fact that is decided on by fellow professional footballers. I wouldn't purposely use it as an example but it is a valid point, same fact that fellow professionals have voted for Steven Gerrard to win PFA Player of the Year.
Bert Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Hardly embarrassing using a fact that is decided on by fellow professional footballers. I wouldn't purposely use it as an example but it is a valid point, same fact that fellow professionals have voted for Steven Gerrard to win PFA Player of the Year. It's not even a fact as such, the team is based on opinion. Either way, two great footballers and personally prefer watching Gerrard play.
Grandad. Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 It's not even a fact as such, the team is based on opinion. Either way, two great footballers and personally prefer watching Gerrard play. The fact in the point is that, fellow professionals have named him in the team of the year 6 more times than Scholes, so the majority of the Premier League players think Gerrard is better and been better in all of them seasons.
Bert Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 The fact in the point is that, fellow professionals have named him in the team of the year 6 more times than Scholes, so the majority of the Premier League players think Gerrard is better and been better in all of them seasons.But that's only their opinion, no? There's so many things you could argue to put a case forward for who is better. Scholes being a multiple title winner. Gerrard being standing out in a team not as good as the United ones? They're not my points either, just examples.
Grandad. Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 But that's only their opinion, no? There's so many things you could argue to put a case forward for who is better. Scholes being a multiple title winner. Gerrard being standing out in a team not as good as the United ones? They're not my points either, just examples. Yeah, it's the opinions of people with a lot more in the know than many of us, opinions of players who have played against both Scholes and Gerrard in a season.
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Yeah, it's the opinions of people with a lot more in the know than many of us, opinions of players who have played against both Scholes and Gerrard in a season. You can't weigh the worth of someones opinion against their talent, otherwise the fact that Zidane viewed him as a more complete midfielder than himself ends the discussion all together.
Grandad. Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 You can't weigh the worth of someones opinion against their talent, otherwise the fact that Zidane viewed him as a more complete midfielder than himself ends the discussion all together. Zidane also said Gerrard was the best player in the world in 2009 over Messi and Ronaldo, when he clearly wasn't so Zidane saying something isn't really something to be going on.
Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 But that's only their opinion, no? There's so many things you could argue to put a case forward for who is better. Scholes being a multiple title winner. Gerrard being standing out in a team not as good as the United ones? They're not my points either, just examples. That's irrelevant.
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Zidane also said Gerrard was the best player in the world in 2009 over Messi and Ronaldo, when he clearly wasn't so Zidane saying something isn't really something to be going on. Exactly the point I was making if you read my post again.
Grandad. Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Exactly the point I was making if you read my post again. Yeah, I get that. One man saying something is different to fellow professionals across 20 different teams, their opinions are something to be taken for.
Manwell Pablo Posted 29 April 2014 Posted 29 April 2014 Yeah, I get that. One man saying something is different to fellow professionals across 20 different teams, their opinions are something to be taken for. But he is a fellow professional, a very respected one. I'd be careful about taking taking any of their opinions to seriously individually or collectively. Hard to judge a game your playing in, as you'll know. You go off key contributions and whilst Scholes could provide them Gerrard is more capable of doing so. For me their two very different players. Gerrard can provide a pass or a goal that can change a game more often than Scholes, Scholes and control a game more often than Gerrard. It's a bit of a hard one to say either way.
AKCJ Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 Will Hughes was in the PFA Team of the Year for the Championship. Doesn't mean he's better than Matty James.
Bert Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 Will Hughes was in the PFA Team of the Year for the Championship. Doesn't mean he's better than Matty James. And that's exactly why you can't use the PFA team as an argument.
Dan Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 Team of the year suggests that Will Hughes has had a better year than Matty James so yes, I'd read very little into them. Will Hughes was in the PFA Team of the Year for the Championship. Doesn't mean he's better than Matty James. Wow. That is amazing. I genuinely didn't see this
Dan Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 That's irrelevant. No it really isn't. Before anyone suggests 'Wes Brown' then he was quite clearly bit-part. Scholes was a key player in one of England's most successful ever sides.
Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 30 April 2014 Posted 30 April 2014 No it really isn't. Before anyone suggests 'Wes Brown' then he was quite clearly bit-part. Scholes was a key player in one of England's most successful ever sides. Yes and if Gerrard was born in Manchester he would have been a key player in one of England's most successful ever sides. That's why it's irrelevant.
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