MC Prussian Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Two kids attack elderly man out of sheer boredom and almost kill him? It was a vicious attack by two imbecile brutes and I do hope they get what they deserve in prison. What were the parents thinking and how do they justify their little 'uns senseless behavior?
MooseBreath Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Something's gone very wrong in society when stories like this don't surprise you in the slightest. It's nothing new though. I'd venture that homeless people are safer now than they were a couple of decades ago.
MC Prussian Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 It's nothing new though. I'd venture that homeless people are safer now than they were a couple of decades ago. What does this have to do with the initial story of a homeless man beaten up by two young cretins?
MooseBreath Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 What does this have to do with the initial story of a homeless man beaten up by two young cretins? Well if the initial story highlights the dangers of being homeless then I would have thought looking at present levels of danger in comparison to levels of danger faced in the past is a fairly natural tangent for the discussion to take.
MC Prussian Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Well if the initial story highlights the dangers of being homeless then I would have thought looking at present levels of danger in comparison to levels of danger faced in the past is a fairly natural tangent for the discussion to take. How about trying to highlight the dangers of bad parenting, bad schooling, lack of morale and missing role models for young people instead?
MooseBreath Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 How about trying to highlight the dangers of bad parenting, bad schooling, lack of morale and missing role models for young people instead? Those are natural tangents as well, and I'm not stopping you from discussing them. Question is though, how do you know those are issues, and this isn't just an isolated pair of 'natural' psychos, without looking at overall levels of this kind of incident? How do you know if those issues are improving or getting worse without looking at the levels in a historical context?
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 It's difficult to give an opinion without knowing the full facts. For example these kids could have mental issues, for all we know they could be homeless themselves and had a bad upbringing, you might not know but everyone is one bad upbringing away from being homeless. I'm on radio not radio tomorrow 5am, tangy malangu show discussing the link between this case and the bedroom tax. We'll also be asking Cameron if he could live on 4p.a week, he didn't reply as you can imagine, in fact we didn't send the letter. Wonder what the bankers think of that. I'm doing a song about coconuts.
MooseBreath Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 "Coconut Chloe" Kenbo was a chimney sweep, spent all day brushing soot The bankers came and business changed and left him homeless but He drank all day to pass time away he was stuck in a dreadful rut Then along came a dame and life all was never the same, it was Chloe the coconut All together now! Her name is Chloe, she's not too showy, it's Chloe the coconut Her name is Chloe, she gives a good blowie, it's Chloe the coconut
foxfanazer Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 It's sad to say but the more of these stories I see makes me lose faith in humanity. Overreaction, yes but can't help but feel that way
Dan Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 It's nothing new though. I'd venture that homeless people are safer now than they were a couple of decades ago. King Ken to the rescue.
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I have a theory on crime - prevention is better than cure; so it is better to stop crime through harsh punishment rather than cure these scumbags via rehab whilst inside
Dan Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I have a theory on crime - prevention is better than cure; so it is better to stop crime through harsh punishment rather than cure these scumbags via rehab whilst inside Would set out a far better deterrent. Amazes me some people are still fooled by this whole 'needs help' kind of thing. It's a poor excuse for ridiculous behaviour and I'd love to see how many try it if we actually punished criminals.
Webbo Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I have a theory on crime - prevention is better than cure; so it is better to stop crime through harsh punishment rather than cure these scumbags via rehab whilst inside They probably did it thinking they wouldn't get caught, or they didn't think at all.
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Most benefits are claimed by low paid working families.
purpleronnie Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Why would any street guy move to Newport? Maybe because that's the one place Tramps feel wealthy. As for the story? it's terrible, a cowardly act commited by scum.
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 It is bizarre though isn't it. One of the great things about being a street guy must be the freedom of movement, why they would choose to settle down in Newport I have no idea. Just get to London and watch the cash roll in
Mike Oxlong Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 It is bizarre though isn't it. One of the great things about being a street guy must be the freedom of movement, why they would choose to settle down in Newport I have no idea. Just get to London and watch the cash roll in Newport is running a pilot scheme whereby they prosecute any "Haves" who urinate on the "Have-nots".
Rincewind Posted 9 December 2013 Author Posted 9 December 2013 Matt spend a couple of nights on the street during tempatures in the minus and then come back and say how wonderful it is.
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