Rincewind Posted 8 December 2013 Posted 8 December 2013 I think you can guess my view. i would just like to see what others think. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25186965
ADK Posted 8 December 2013 Posted 8 December 2013 Should be locked up for life or until it can be reasonably believed they won't offend again.
Harry - LCFC Posted 8 December 2013 Posted 8 December 2013 There is only one view and that is that's it's a horrific incident. The fact that the victim was homeless doesn't make it better or worse, someone being attacked in that manner is awful regardless of their circumstances in life. That said it does point towards a pretty disgusting attitude towards the homeless amongst some which is worrying.
Rincewind Posted 8 December 2013 Author Posted 8 December 2013 There is only one view and that is that's it's a horrific incident. The fact that the victim was homeless doesn't make it better or worse, someone being attacked in that manner is awful regardless of their circumstances in life. That said it does point towards a pretty disgusting attitude towards the homeless amongst some which is worrying. That is pretty much my view. Was it going through their minds that because he was homeless he did not matter? I think they need educating too. But as you say,the fact that he was homeless does not make the attack worse.
MooseBreath Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 He's only a homeless guy lool. Fair game imo. Kids should be let off. Nothing wrong in what they did. Bet that old homeless bloke got some compo and a new free house of it as well. And what a surprise his injuries prevent him from working looool. Guess that'll be him living off the tax payer for the rest of his life then. Is that what you wanted to hear, Ken? To reinforce how bad everyone else is and just how phooking amazing you are for caring about others? Chloe would be so proud.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 They are a pair of fvcking cvnts. The attitude of these low rent gangsters is incredible, we really do live in a shitty society don't we, there's stories like this every week!
Strokes Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I thought under 18s have their identities protected from the media/general public, what about their human rights! Homeless guy has already wasted his life but we might turn these kids around, hopefully they will get new id's and a chance at rehibilitation.
Finnegan Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Ole! Lamby with a funny. Seriously,though, what does it matter he's homeless? GBH is GBH and they should get an appropriate sentence.
z-layrex Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 This is a stupid topic. They're evil little c**ts who should go to prison for a long time. What else do you want me to say?
jonthefox Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I don't think we can make the link between homelessness and him getting a kicking. As bad as it is, he met two scrotes. It could have happened to a property magnate.
cambridgefox Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I don't think we can make the link between homelessness and him getting a kicking. As bad as it is, he met two scrotes. It could have happened to a property magnate. correct,or any other person who is weaker or more vulnerable than them.if there were two 25 year old blokes walking through there do you think they would have done a thing.no.pondlife,put them inside in separate prisons and see how hard they are.
indierich06 Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 They look a right shrimpy little pair of ***** too, probably picked on the bloke while he was asleep or pissed up. I wouldn't fancy their chances in a fair fight with a fully grown man. Absolute scummers. Glad the judge has had the balls to name and shame them too.
Zingari Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Could the sentencing have been harsher if it was classed as a "hate crime"? Could this be classed as a hate crime ?
Jon the Hat Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 It always makes me a little sad to think how ****ed up smeones life had to be for them to get their kicks from this sort of mindless attack. And to be honest a little sadder that Ken feels the need to ask a frankly offensive question.
Rincewind Posted 9 December 2013 Author Posted 9 December 2013 It always makes me a little sad to think how ****ed up smeones life had to be for them to get their kicks from this sort of mindless attack. And to be honest a little sadder that Ken feels the need to ask a frankly offensive question. Sorry about the question. It was not meant to offend. But it has been answered in the way I hoped and expected. I agree that the fact that he was homeless should make no difference to the crime. So why in other areas like being helped to change his life be viewed differently. We do not know why he was homeless or what he did before. Is it not possible that he WAS a property magnate who lost his fortune? Or an ex-soldier? Or someone kicked out of his home by his wife? There was no need for Lamby's comment in this thread though.
AndWhat? Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Scumbags. I would bet money that their parents are scumbags and I would also bet money that if they ever have children they will also be scumbags. It's the scumbag circle of life.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Sorry about the question. It was not meant to offend. But it has been answered in the way I hoped and expected. I agree that the fact that he was homeless should make no difference to the crime. So why in other areas like being helped to change his life be viewed differently. We do not know why he was homeless or what he did before. Is it not possible that he WAS a property magnate who lost his fortune? Or an ex-soldier? Or someone kicked out of his home by his wife? There was no need for Lamby's comment in this thread though. This is what I don't get about your cause. You don't seem to get the fact that whatever has gone before someone being homeless shouldn't matter. We don't need to know whether he was a property magnate, a soldier or whatever because it shouldn't make any difference now. Someone is homeless and that is the fact that should matter, that they are homeless. Not that they used to be this or have that. Which is why I disagree with the charity that you always push which is helping homeless ex-soldiers because they used to be soldiers and not because they are homeless.
Ross-Kemp Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Sorry about the question. It was not meant to offend. But it has been answered in the way I hoped and expected. I agree that the fact that he was homeless should make no difference to the crime. So why in other areas like being helped to change his life be viewed differently. We do not know why he was homeless or what he did before. Is it not possible that he WAS a property magnate who lost his fortune? Or an ex-soldier? Or someone kicked out of his home by his wife? There was no need for Lamby's comment in this thread though. Ken, I get the fact you're sticking up for homeless people and I agree (sometimes)However why do you feel the need in pretty much every conversation to mention about what they might have been before or that it can happen to anybody ? It's becoming a little sad and rhetorical if I'm honest, people get your point, relax a little. Who knows, you may even enjoy life instead of constantly moaning about everything.
Rincewind Posted 9 December 2013 Author Posted 9 December 2013 This is what I don't get about your cause. You don't seem to get the fact that whatever has gone before someone being homeless shouldn't matter. We don't need to know whether he was a property magnate, a soldier or whatever because it shouldn't make any difference now. Someone is homeless and that is the fact that should matter, that they are homeless. Not that they used to be this or have that. Which is why I disagree with the charity that you always push which is helping homeless ex-soldiers because they used to be soldiers and not because they are homeless. Partly. I just want to bust the myth that they are homeless because they want to be. The charity also helps women that are victims of domestic violence, with mental disabilities, children from care homes, learning disabilities and disfunctional homes. These problems also have to be addressed as they are interlinked with someone becoming homeless. 50% of those that end up on the street have mental issues. There are also many youngsters from care homes who cease to be children at 18 and left to their own devices having been in a home so have no experience of caring for themselves. So charities like Action Homeless offer training to address this and prevent people such as these falling into the trap. I am not directly involved in this process. My volunteering work is with the media side.
Voll Blau Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I thought under 18s have their identities protected from the media/general public, what about their human rights! Homeless guy has already wasted his life but we might turn these kids around, hopefully they will get new id's and a chance at rehibilitation. Reporting restrictions can be lifted under certain circumstances, such as if the judge deems there be to significant public interest in naming them (in this case due to the severity of their crime I would guess).
Dan Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Something's gone very wrong in society when stories like this don't surprise you in the slightest.
MPH Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 Reporting restrictions can be lifted under certain circumstances, such as if the judge deems there be to significant public interest in naming them (in this case due to the severity of their crime I would guess). And to induce shame and embarrassment I would imagine. In the HOPE of deterring others from doing the same.
MPH Posted 9 December 2013 Posted 9 December 2013 I think you can guess my view. i would just like to see what others think. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25186965 Bloody foreign homeless people! Sleeping in boxes OUR homeless people should be using!!! Seriously though ken, just post a story then say you find it disgusting. You'll get everyone agreeing with you on stuff like this. If you wonder why there is apathy towards some of the things you post ( when in reality it's towards you) it's when you imply as in this case that people might be ok with this sort of thing. Or when you post politically motivated and unfunny photos in the funny photos thread. It's not the crime if the century but the cumulative effect is incredibly annoying. You're creating your own 'enemies' We all know you have a caring heart and to be concerned for those in a bad place isn't a bad thing. It's just HOW you communicate it.
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