Thracian Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Sorry... do you mean King who has scored what? One goal this season? Id like a real goal threat from that central position. As you say though, we cant have it all. King won't have lost the ability to score 10 goals a season - I just think he turned or was turned into a jobsworth. He's essentially a one-medium-paced player who was asked to cover more ground from back to front than he was naturally capable of. His big strengths are his speed of passing and calm finishing and I honestly believe it's time for him to leave and prove that those capabilities can be very effective in the right type of team where fast, one-touch football is paramount because for all the qualities of our current players, accurate one-touch football isn't natural to them and certainly not to Knockaert who seems to have had a negating effect on King, as did Wellens. .
Babylon Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Bloody Pearson, making players run about a bit before shooting.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Bloody Pearson, making players run about a bit before shooting.Hmmmm... a post which effectively ignores Thrac's excellent one above.I agree with Thrac.. making a knackering run to then shoot is so much harder than being fresh before you pull the trigger.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Surely this is the nature of the championship, to create chances knowing that due to the limited ability if the players that most will go begging ?
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Another sarcastic post which effectively ignores Thrac's excellent one above. I agree with Thrac.. making a knackering run to then shoot is so much harder than being fresh before you pull the trigger. Unless you are suarez who can work his arse off for 90 minutes and still score sublime goals
jamesmilner Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 I really do not get it, I must be watching a different game if the problem yesterday was with our forwards shooting. They barely had a clear sight of goal between them, being 25 yards from goals with half a dozen player between you and the goal, really shouldn't keep being classed as a chance missed, or not taken. The biggest cock up from any of the strikers yesterday was when Vardy had a chance to break clear (when he and everyone else seemed to think he's be flagged for offside) and he took a very heavy touch that he couldn't catch up with. I'll listen to the argument that perhaps they don't gamble on the right areas, but even yesterday than had bugger all chance with 99% of the crosses from Dyer, Konch, Knocky and De Laet because they were either under hit, over hit, hit wide, or hit straight at the defender. you were not there !! his 2nd best shot went out for a throw in . and he does bottle it and pass or has an extra touch , at least waggy came on and pulled the trigger .
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Don't want to put the mockers on us, but now is the time I begin to feel a little uncomfortable, We need a regular goal scorer. Penalties not included.
deep blue Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Exactly, the reason we need to worry is that the penalties will probably dry up. As someone already pointed out, though, it's not simply a matter of getting in a poacher because if he can't fit into our current team play (i.e. pull his weight in other aspects of play) then we might not create the chances for him to convert - a tricky little dilemma for Nige to ponder. An alternative approach is to reduce the need for goals by increasing the number of clean sheets we keep. I think this will be just as important for the 2nd half of the season.
theessexfox Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Agree with Thrac about our lack, or total absence, of goals from the back-line.
Thracian Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Unless you are suarez who can work his arse off for 90 minutes and still score sublime goals Even the inspirational Suarez does his work where it hurts.
Babylon Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 you were not there !! his 2nd best shot went out for a throw in . and he does bottle it and pass or has an extra touch , at least waggy came on and pulled the trigger .And that shot was taken from distance with loads of players stood in front of him. If you count that as a chance and a miss it's no wonder you are dissatisfied with our strikers.The positions we got into down the flanks we shouldn't need our strikers to rely on long shots, they should have had at least a couple of chances laid on a plate, but they didn't.
Babylon Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 Hmmmm... a post which effectively ignores Thrac's excellent one above. I agree with Thrac.. making a knackering run to then shoot is so much harder than being fresh before you pull the trigger. It's not an excellent post, it's absolute nonsense to find a way of blaming Pearson.Dyer's finishing us the same in the first minute as it is in the last, unpredictable. The same as our other players. If tiredness was that much of a factor you'd have us scoring more early and tailing off as they tire, when in fact we score much more in the second half than we do the first. Someone like Wayne Rooney is one of the hardest working players you are likely to see and manages it just fine. Ditto Ronaldo and others. It's about skill level not what work they are putting in.
Dickov22 Posted 27 December 2013 Posted 27 December 2013 I really do not get it, I must be watching a different game if the problem yesterday was with our forwards shooting. They barely had a clear sight of goal between them, being 25 yards from goals with half a dozen player between you and the goal, really shouldn't keep being classed as a chance missed, or not taken. The biggest cock up from any of the strikers yesterday was when Vardy had a chance to break clear (when he and everyone else seemed to think he's be flagged for offside) and he took a very heavy touch that he couldn't catch up with. I'll listen to the argument that perhaps they don't gamble on the right areas, but even yesterday than had bugger all chance with 99% of the crosses from Dyer, Konch, Knocky and De Laet because they were either under hit, over hit, hit wide, or hit straight at the defender. You're not watching a different game to me I agree with you entirely.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 28 December 2013 Posted 28 December 2013 I for one would not want to play under Thracian
dayday Posted 28 December 2013 Posted 28 December 2013 Exactly, the reason we need to worry is that the penalties will probably dry up. As someone already pointed out, though, it's not simply a matter of getting in a poacher because if he can't fit into our current team play (i.e. pull his weight in other aspects of play) then we might not create the chances for him to convert - a tricky little dilemma for Nige to ponder. An alternative approach is to reduce the need for goals by increasing the number of clean sheets we keep. I think this will be just as important for the 2nd half of the season. Stats don't lie,we have created the most chances by a country mile in this league,and take away the penalty count,our goals to shots is grim reading. For people to shrug this off is foolish,penalties are a lottery,and i don't know of my head how many points we have gained through penalties but i guess its fairly high. Cannot really put my finger on it as to why we dont score more but Col made a point the otherweek were we are snatching at our chances rather than being more composed,ive also noticed we hit a lot of speculative shots rather than waiting for a better option. After the Forest game,Nigel Pearson said that we need to be more ruthless in games,and i got the impression it was not just that game he was referring to. So don't be surprised to see some activity next month.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 December 2013 Posted 28 December 2013 Stats don't lie,we have created the most chances by a country mile in this league,and take away the penalty count,our goals to shots is grim reading. For people to shrug this off is foolish,penalties are a lottery,and i don't know of my head how many points we have gained through penalties but i guess its fairly high. Cannot really put my finger on it as to why we dont score more but Col made a point the otherweek were we are snatching at our chances rather than being more composed,ive also noticed we hit a lot of speculative shots rather than waiting for a better option. After the Forest game,Nigel Pearson said that we need to be more ruthless in games,and i got the impression it was not just that game he was referring to. So don't be surprised to see some activity next month. We snatch at chances mainly because many of them arent good chances. Especially the shots from the midfielders.Rather than keeping the ball further up the pitch, its all a bit quick and rushed and people are trying speculative efforts when they arent really on. But this is a Pearson side. Graft, organisation and effort are favoured to flair. And so far, its working. Every so often of course we will win by a few clear goals, but the emphasis is always on being solid and not giving much away. Even if a better attacking midfielder came in, this would be to the detriment of the defensive stuff (eg if a player like George Boyd replaced Matt James). So you either accept that this is Pearson's style or you dont. So far though, this season, you cant knock it.
Grewks Posted 28 December 2013 Posted 28 December 2013 I tried to explain this, statistically, a few weeks ago. We dont score enough goals from midfield. Thats ok when the strikers are scoring. When they aint, it becomes more of a problem. We don't score enough goals from midfield i agree. But that doesn't excuse Vardy and Nuge missing sitters every single game. In fact, our side is setup to supply those 2 with chances, and it does it very well. Any striker in this league would rather have the service we provide our strikers than that of any other side.
Aus Fox Posted 29 December 2013 Posted 29 December 2013 Stats don't lie,we have created the most chances by a country mile in this league,and take away the penalty count,our goals to shots is grim reading. For people to shrug this off is foolish,penalties are a lottery,and i don't know of my head how many points we have gained through penalties but i guess its fairly high. Cannot really put my finger on it as to why we dont score more but Col made a point the otherweek were we are snatching at our chances rather than being more composed,ive also noticed we hit a lot of speculative shots rather than waiting for a better option. After the Forest game,Nigel Pearson said that we need to be more ruthless in games,and i got the impression it was not just that game he was referring to. So don't be surprised to see some activity next month. I worked it out earlier in the season and it's not as many as you would think if you take away the penalties the opposition get also. For example we lost 2 points at Blackpool with a penalty and there have been games when we have won 2-1 such as Yeovil where both teams scored a penalty and games like Wigan where we have won 2-0 with the penalty sealing the game but we would have won without it.
Guest Posted 29 December 2013 Posted 29 December 2013 We don't score enough goals from midfield i agree. But that doesn't excuse Vardy and Nuge missing sitters every single game. In fact, our side is setup to supply those 2 with chances, and it does it very well. Any striker in this league would rather have the service we provide our strikers than that of any other side. So you're agreeing with the idiot (me) again !
fordy_uk2005 Posted 29 December 2013 Posted 29 December 2013 Chris wood is are best finisher at the club,
Thracian Posted 29 December 2013 Posted 29 December 2013 I for one would not want to play under Thracian Hmmmm... a post which effectively ignores Thrac's excellent one above. I agree with Thrac.. making a knackering run to then shoot is so much harder than being fresh before you pull the trigger. Haha - if Babs starts agreeing with me, it'll be like a BNP member turning to Islam! .
Thracian Posted 29 December 2013 Posted 29 December 2013 I for one would not want to play under Thracian I should probably thank you for that!
Babylon Posted 29 December 2013 Posted 29 December 2013 Bloody Dyer running 50 metres and stuffing it in the bottom corner... Imagine what he could do of he didn't run about as much (I kid). I agree with a lot of what you say Thrac, I just think you take things a wee bit too far sometimes.
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