Sherlock

[Webbo]

I think they knew that however they explained his faked death you'd be able to pick holes in it so they've embraced that and included it in the plot.

[Rincewind]

i'd still like to know how he did it. they gave two possibilities both would need forsight and planning. how would he know that he'd end up deciding whether to jump or Moriaty would blow his brains out? The only way would to dupe the whole population into thinking he had jumped and walked down the stairs. Did he know that marksmen had targeted Watson? They would have to be on his side. Maybe the writers don't know themselves and as Webbo says however they explained it someone would find faults.

[Guest shearfox]

i'd still like to know how he did it. they gave two possibilities both would need forsight and planning. how would he know that he'd end up deciding whether to jump or Moriaty would blow his brains out? The only way would to dupe the whole population into thinking he had jumped and walked down the stairs. Did he know that marksmen had targeted Watson? They would have to be on his side. Maybe the writers don't know themselves and as Webbo says however they explained it someone would find faults.

They have had two years to think of it so I would be pretty sure that there is a true explanation but feel we won't find out until the end of this series... The last explanation was plausible but would have had to rely on luck to pull it off.

[Rincewind]

Doesn't sem like two years since the last one TBH.  The only way it was plausable was if he thought like Moriarty which in a way he does by looking at every sceario and picking the one Moriarty would choose. But then would Moriarty think like Sherlock and do a double bluff?

[indierich06]

The thing about the Sherlock's explanation to Anderson that annoyed me a bit was the needless inclusion of the Sherlock duplicate - the one that Molly lobbed out of the window. Why didn't Sherlock just lie on the ground once they'd moved the air bag? Having the corpse there was completely unnecessary as John didn't get close enough to get a proper look at it anyway?  

 

It makes me certain that the second explanation wasn't what happened. During the episode, Sherlock says that it wouldn't have been possible without Molly's help - well according to that version, all she did was chuck a corpse out of a window, that never needed to be chucked out of the window in the first place? I think he's just told Anderson a load of guff to confuse him even more - he never had any respect for the bloke anwyay, even before Anderson did his utmost to tarnish his reputation.

 

I get the feeling they're not going to tell us exactly how it was done tbh, just leave it as a bit of a mystery.

 

EDIT: Furthermore, if Mycroft sent men to 'persuade' (aka kill) John's assassin, then why not do it for all of them and save Sherlock the hassle of faking his death and going on the run for two years?

[Captain...]

The thing about the Sherlock's explanation to Anderson that annoyed me a bit was the needless inclusion of the Sherlock duplicate - the one that Molly lobbed out of the window. Why didn't Sherlock just lie on the ground once they'd moved the air bag? Having the corpse there was completely unnecessary as John didn't get close enough to get a proper look at it anyway?  

 

It makes me certain that the second explanation wasn't what happened. During the episode, Sherlock says that it wouldn't have been possible without Molly's help - well according to that version, all she did was chuck a corpse out of a window, that never needed to be chucked out of the window in the first place? I think he's just told Anderson a load of guff to confuse him even more - he never had any respect for the bloke anwyay, even before Anderson did his utmost to tarnish his reputation.

 

I get the feeling they're not going to tell us exactly how it was done tbh, just leave it as a bit of a mystery.

 

EDIT: Furthermore, if Mycroft sent men to 'persuade' (aka kill) John's assassin, then why not do it for all of them and save Sherlock the hassle of faking his death and going on the run for two years?

 

I think the explanation to Anderson was deliberately overly complicated, I did like the idea of Molly finding the double Moriarty had been using to frighten the kids quite good though, but your right, surely you just throw that one out the window and leave it there.

 

That confused me as well, if Mycroft was able to cancel the hit, then surely it makes the whole thing kind of pointless.

[AKCJ]

I think the explanation to Anderson was deliberately overly complicated, I did like the idea of Molly finding the double Moriarty had been using to frighten the kids quite good though, but your right, surely you just throw that one out the window and leave it there.

 

That confused me as well, if Mycroft was able to cancel the hit, then surely it makes the whole thing kind of pointless.

 

 

One thing I noticed was that Molly's new boyfriend (the one that looks like just Sherlock) was the one chucked out of the window.

[Guest ttfn]

Much better this week

[Webbo]

Not sure if the comedy is right for Sherlock Holmes.

[Guest Bilo]

Thoroughly enjoyed tonight, drunk Sherlock was superb.

 

The best man's speech was good value too, as he managed to offend everybody in the room before reducing them to tears.

[rico]

Tonights episode was much better than the 1st of the series

[Narborough_fox]

Enjoyed the episode tonight very much, quite different from the other Sherlock episodes of the past with a bit more humour in it but I think that's why I enjoyed it so much. "Just clueing for looks" was probably the stand out moment.

 

Good way to end it though, with Sherlock leaving the wedding early. 

[goose2010]

Controversial i know but I didn't like it, nothing happened this show has masses of potential and they have ruined it by adding too much comedy. You can tell the guy that writes Doctor Who has got his hands on it. if BC wasn't in it wouldnt be watch he definitely makes the show but i would like to see more crime solving rather than another poorly made BBC comedy.

[indierich06]

Controversial i know but I didn't like it, nothing happened this show has masses of potential and they have ruined it by adding too much comedy. You can tell the guy that writes Doctor Who has got his hands on it. if BC wasn't in it wouldnt be watch he definitely makes the show but i would like to see more crime solving rather than another poorly made BBC comedy.

 

Well he hasn't written either of the epsiodes in this series so far. In fact, the guy who wrote this episode wrote 'The Reichenbach Fall' - arguably the best episode of Sherlock to date.

 

I enjoyed it, thought it fleshed out the 'casebook' a bit, and there were some nice nods to the canon - especially liked the midget with the blowpipe, which was a nice reference to The Sign of The Four. Expecting bigger things of the next episode though - although I'm almost certain what the plotline is going to be already. If he's anything like the character he's based on in the books, Charles Augustus Magnussen (Milverton in the canon) will be a master blackmailer, and all the signs are that it's going to be Mary who he's targeting. It would explain why Magnussen contacted Mary instead of Sherlock when John was kidnapped for one. Think the episode will mostly be about Sherlock trying to take CAM down, and deciding whether or not to reveal Mary's secret to John. The series finales are usually pretty good with this show, and I don't think this will be an exception.

[Rincewind]

I wasn't sure about it. I enjoyed it but it was showing Sherlock's weaknesses and it just seemed out of character for him to lack confidence with his best man speech. Plus I'm not sure he'd be going bar to bar on John's stag night. The humour was good though and done well. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for the next series?

[Orkneyfox]

I wil have to watch it again tonight (or part of it) as I didnt quite understnd about the death by tight belt thingy!

[Guest shearfox]

Fully enjoyed the last episode, very funny indeed...

[adam1]

I don't think that this series is as good as the last two. However series 2 is always going to be difficult to follow. I thought series 2 was exceptional.

[Jimothy]

I wasn't sure about it. I enjoyed it but it was showing Sherlock's weaknesses and it just seemed out of character for him to lack confidence with his best man speech. Plus I'm not sure he'd be going bar to bar on John's stag night. The humour was good though and done well. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for the next series?

I think how Sherlock behaved during the speech is exactly right. This Sherlock is obviously very awkward in social situations, possibly slightly autistic. He's very confident in his world, solving mysteries, seeing things others don't. It was no coincidence when the speech became a whodunit he became more confident.

[Rincewind]

I think how Sherlock behaved during the speech is exactly right. This Sherlock is obviously very awkward in social situations, possibly slightly autistic. He's very confident in his world, solving mysteries, seeing things others don't. It was no coincidence when the speech became a whodunit he became more confident.

Yes I noticed that. I suppose it showed him as human and not just an unemotional genius.

[danny.]

I've never seen this - can I jump in to the current season 3, or do I need to have watched 1 and 2 first really?

[Magictv]

Well he hasn't written either of the epsiodes in this series so far. In fact, the guy who wrote this episode wrote 'The Reichenbach Fall' - arguably the best episode of Sherlock to date.

 

I enjoyed it, thought it fleshed out the 'casebook' a bit, and there were some nice nods to the canon - especially liked the midget with the blowpipe, which was a nice reference to The Sign of The Four. Expecting bigger things of the next episode though - although I'm almost certain what the plotline is going to be already. If he's anything like the character he's based on in the books, Charles Augustus Magnussen (Milverton in the canon) will be a master blackmailer, and all the signs are that it's going to be Mary who he's targeting. It would explain why Magnussen contacted Mary instead of Sherlock when John was kidnapped for one. Think the episode will mostly be about Sherlock trying to take CAM down, and deciding whether or not to reveal Mary's secret to John. The series finales are usually pretty good with this show, and I don't think this will be an exception.

Think I've missed something here!! Mary's secret - what's that all about?

 

 

I've never seen this - can I jump in to the current season 3, or do I need to have watched 1 and 2 first really?

 

You could, but the first 2 series are class, well worth a watch if you can get hold of them.

[Guest shearfox]

Season 2 must be watched before 3, you wouldn't have much understanding without watching at the very least season 2. Season 2 is fantastic anyway and well worth watching

[danny.]

thanks, will try and grab it now!

[Webbo]

Anyone else think it's getting a bit over stylised and silly?