Webbo Posted 5 January 2014 Posted 5 January 2014 To be honest, I would get rid of the league cup, and keep the F.A cup. We don't need two cups a season, on top of the league and the champions league. The league cup was invented to generate more income for clubs, most teams outside the premier league still need that. From a slightly left field angle, if we had Premier league divisions 1 & 2 where the difference in money wasn't so great that promotion and relegation wasn't so life and death clubs could become more relaxed about the league and put some effort into winning another trophy.
Pride_Of_The_Midlands Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 The way I'd like is maybe take away 1 or 2 places from the champs league qualification in the Prem; put those extra people in the Europa then lower the numbers so it is team's that finish say no worse than 5th. Also add the cup winners into this competition and then have this as a route into the Champs League - so maybe 10 to 20 teams qualify this way as well for next years comp. That's just off the top of my head and I'm sure there are too many flaws to make it a reality. I just want something where FA and Europa lead to Champs League Qualification. But I'm not sure if you fluke your way to winning the FA Cup you should take precedent over a team that's finished 4th throughout a season. But 4th place and the FA Cup winner could have a play-off, which is a little more realistic. The Premier League bosses will never allow it though. Starting from next season the Europa League winners qualify for the Champions League.
Filbert_Ross Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 Liking that 4th place v FA cup winner playoff for champions league spot idea.
Voll Blau Posted 9 January 2014 Posted 9 January 2014 Keep the FA Cup as it is, but the League Cup could benefit from being regionalised in the earlier rounds.
seasider Posted 10 January 2014 Posted 10 January 2014 We have a similar thread on our Blackpool forum. This was my proposal http://www.backhenrystreet.co.uk/Thread-How-can-we-restore-the-FA-Cup-to-its-former-glory#.Us-0H9JdWPA
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 10 January 2014 Posted 10 January 2014 4 champions league spots. league winner. Fa cup winner. league cup winner Top flight play off system say 3rd play 4th to meet runners up. Played overseas and the premiership money get the cash they want. For the 39th and 40th games. I think that's actually a great idea
Kitchandro Posted 10 January 2014 Posted 10 January 2014 Is it? The only fair way to decide things realistically is a league and that just isn't possible. The Champs league is the best it can be at the moment. The fact that 'upsets' happen is a good thing, not bad, those teams fought to get it and as they say, that's the beauty of the cup. No you just don't let domestic league also rans into the most prestigious club Competition in the world. It's a long way from the best it can be, they'd be better cutting the amount of teams so it truly is the elite of Europe, like the old European cup. The group stages are so boring. Or at the very least give places to clubs who have won something.
Kitchandro Posted 10 January 2014 Posted 10 January 2014 I think it's just a case of teams agreeing to drop the ticket prices. That's what the issue is, that fans aren't coming to some of the games. As for the teams being put out , I think people are making something of nothing. Teams have always made a few change for cup games. Despite what Lambert said this week, that team he put out against a League One team had 7 or so regular starters, including a £20m rated striker. That should have been more than enough to see off a league one side. Man City put out a team they would happily put out against the likes of Sunderland or Hull in the league, again they've let themselves down by not going through. Even looking at the Leeds team, they were quite strong and should have seen off Rochdale. But aren't those results the magic of the cup we're all looking for? Not sure what people actually want. They seem to want a cup where Northampton can knock out Liverpool, but where they expect Liverpool to always be in the latter stages. The only reason Wigan got to the final last year is because a lot of the big teams saw each other off, and one, in Liverpool, lost to Oldham, (surely the magic of the cup). They got a huge team in the final, and got a freak result, it's not like City didn't take the final seriously. Looking at the previous years winners over the last 10 years, you've had Chelsea 4 times, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Man Utd. Only Pompey and Wigan could be classed as small teams winning the cup, and without listing the whole of the fa cup fixture lists for those years, some of the bigger teams saw each other off. So for me it's just about getting prices down, these are extra games, money's tight, people don't want to pay £40 odd to go to an extra match. And get it off bloody itv, and BT sport. Might not seem the most important thing, but itv are terrible, the bbc always did the cup in the proper way. I think people expect teams to take it seriously. It's one thing for teams to rest players because they expect to win. It's another for the underdogs to put out a weakened team, like we did. At Stoke, it's clear neither side were that bothered about progressing.
Haydos Posted 10 January 2014 Posted 10 January 2014 No you just don't let domestic league also rans into the most prestigious club Competition in the world. It's a long way from the best it can be, they'd be better cutting the amount of teams so it truly is the elite of Europe, like the old European cup. The group stages are so boring. Or at the very least give places to clubs who have won something. So what would you actually do? Have the champions of moldova etc in it instead? How small do you want it? If you're just having 16 teams then it's going to limit the development of teams outside those elite ones and it'll just become a circlejerk of Barca, Real, Bayern, Dortmund, Juve, Inter, Man City, Chelsea, PSG, Monaco, Ajax, PSV, Porto, Benfica etc.
fatmando Posted 10 January 2014 Posted 10 January 2014 4 champions league spots. league winner. Fa cup winner. league cup winner Top flight play off system say 3rd play 4th to meet runners up. Played overseas and the premiership money get the cash they want. For the 39th and 40th games. 4 champions league spots: League Winner League Runner up FA Cup winner 4 team mini league/playoff for 4th CL spot, included is league cup winner, Fa cup runner up, 3rd and 4th league place. Massive!
Captain... Posted 10 January 2014 Posted 10 January 2014 First step would be give it equal billing with the league in the schedule, it is ridiculous that clubs have to rearrange games because of the cup, and then replays, either one leg knock out or a 2 leg competition and scrap the league cup.
ithuriel Posted 11 January 2014 Posted 11 January 2014 Win the FA cup, automatically win ten league points
Lionator Posted 11 January 2014 Posted 11 January 2014 If the FA Cup winner is in the top 3 do you offer the 4th place to the runner up or the 4th place PL team? Also getting rid of replays should happen first, if not have extra time in the first game.
Strokes Posted 11 January 2014 Posted 11 January 2014 So what would you actually do? Have the champions of moldova etc in it?Yes, it might inject some money into their league and eventually they can challenge. Failing that you should have to have picked up silverware to compete in the 'champions' league imo.
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