Grewks Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Are we not overstating our association with him a bit? He might have finished his career with us and coached for a bit but he played 250 times for Southend, over 200 times for Charlton and 100-odd times for Derby, compared to around 20 times for us. It's possibly quite fanciful to think he's a fox at heart. No one thinks he is a 'fox at heart'. I think he made it quite clear at Charlton that it was 'his club'. But returning to a side where he has previously had success as a coach, one which is likely to be in the premier league next season and one which would welcome him back with open arms, no less than the current manager would, surely has to be worth consideration?
Guest Col city fan Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 I don't get where this idea that 'he's a better coach than manager' is coming from. Charlton was his first job, he built a team and took them up as League One champions (something that people are always quick to praise Pearson for on here), he consolidated in his first season as well, finishing 8th ahead of much more 'experienced' managers and teams with better resources. I get the feeling that if his name was Cristiano Powellinho then half the Championship would be raving about him. For me, his record isn't too dissimilar from a certain Nigel Pearson's during his first tenure at the club. Yeah, it's not been great this season, but when your ground's so shit you have to call off multiple games and your club gets taken over by some nutter who sells your best players and tries to force you to play rejects from his other clubs then what do you expect? I think he's done a reasonable job in some very unreasonable working conditions this season. They're bottom of the league, but what do you expect when you've played 4 games less than everyone else? If they won a few games on the spin they'd be mid-table by the time they caught up with the rest of the league in terms of games played. Still think he won't struggle to get another job at a League One club or lower end Championship side, he's more than good enough. During Pearson's first tenure at the club he took us up, then into the play-offs in consecutive seasons, so I really don't get the comparison? Why I believe that Powell may not attain a higher level of management is because he comes over as too nice. Of course, I don't know him so can only surmise. Succesful football managers tend to have a pretty ruthless streak. Nigel Pearson, I suspect, is not a bloke to be messed with. Sure, he'll come across to the media as pretty calm (unless he was talking to Stringer last season), but I doubt any of the players would fook him about. Fergie was the same. Apparently he would lark about with the players on the training ground, but we all knew what happened if you crossed him or became billy big bollox. Powell, to me, seems like a genuinely decent fella but too like 'one of the lads' to have that thing I'm talking about. That bit of 'respect with a little fear' for want of a better phrase. I could be miles off, but that's how Chris Powell comes over to me.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 No one thinks he is a 'fox at heart'. I think he made it quite clear at Charlton that it was 'his club'. But returning to a side where he has previously had success as a coach, one which is likely to be in the premier league next season and one which would welcome him back with open arms, no less than the current manager would, surely has to be worth consideration? As many have said, he is unlikely to go back to being a coach
Vossen Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Unfortunately he's just not good enough for Leicester any more...
Finnaldo Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Are we not overstating our association with him a bit? He might have finished his career with us and coached for a bit but he played 250 times for Southend, over 200 times for Charlton and 100-odd times for Derby, compared to around 20 times for us. It's possibly quite fanciful to think he's a fox at heart. Also it's pretty naive to think he'll want to come back to us and be a coach. His sacking from Charlton is mostly circumstantial, they might be bottom but if there's such thing as a false position in league tables then Charlton are in one owing to their numerous games in hand. Also a title and promotion in his first full season, consolidation up here in his second season, and a 40% win rate overall means that League One clubs will be queueing round the block to get him in now, if not lesser Championship sides. I do think he enjoyed his time here. If you look at the times where he's been a pundit for our games he always has things to say. Although I do agree that he's unlikely to make the return as a coach. He'll be looking for his next managerial job in my opinion.
Grewks Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 As many have said, he is unlikely to go back to being a coach Mclaren was england manager, he won the dutch league......then he coached at QPR. If someone with that job history is willing to drop down to coaching, Chrissy P has no right to say he should not in my opinion.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 During Pearson's first tenure at the club he took us up, then into the play-offs in consecutive seasons, so I really don't get the comparison? Why I believe that Powell may not attain a higher level of management is because he comes over as too nice. Of course, I don't know him so can only surmise. Succesful football managers tend to have a pretty ruthless streak. Nigel Pearson, I suspect, is not a bloke to be messed with. Sure, he'll come across to the media as pretty calm (unless he was talking to Stringer last season), but I doubt any of the players would fook him about. Fergie was the same. Apparently he would lark about with the players on the training ground, but we all knew what happened if you crossed him or became billy big bollox. Powell, to me, seems like a genuinely decent fella but too like 'one of the lads' to have that thing I'm talking about. That bit of 'respect with a little fear' for want of a better phrase. I could be miles off, but that's how Chris Powell comes over to me. Probably agree with you there ColBrilliant coach Not too shabby as a manager either but probably better as a coach There again he could come good at his next appointment?
MPH Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 He'll probably not be able to take another job until any kind of compensation package is sorted out with charlton, by which time i'd expect he will of had a few job offers generated by the end of season merry go round. If the need arises for him to do a bit of coaching to keep him coach-sharp ( is that even a phrase!?) then i'd have him in a flash. win win.
LCCFox96 Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 I think in a job with a more than shoe string budget he could become a very decent manager. He is a good leader, top bloke and we know from his time here his knowledge of the game is extensive so I can see why people would want him as their manager. Gutted for him he's been sacked. On having him back as a coach. Given our season now I think it would be silly to disrupt the backroom staff now but if he want it over management come the summer then we would reintegrate for the next season - especially if we go up when we'll need more coaches. Surely the current staff would want someone like him back around the place. Can you imagine Kev and Chris Powell joining the staff this summer. Not bad recruits.
Guest Col city fan Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Probably agree with you there Col Brilliant coach Not too shabby as a manager either but probably better as a coach There again he could come good at his next appointment? The type of manager that appears to be very amenable with his players usually does well early on mate. They tend to have a pleasant demeanour, jolly the lads up and get them 'contented' so to speak.This was epitomised with the 'Sven effect'. When he first took over clubs or England, he was apparently like this. His players felt less under pressure and started to play with some freedom. This was reflected certainly at his time with England and, of course, with City. But that feeling goes away..without the neccesary discipline and that mild 'fear factor' (not too much, but enough) that I mentioned, the players then become too comfortable and can begin to 'take over'. The best managers City have had have been of the type I mentioned. Jock Wallace, Little, O'Neill and now Pearson.. all men that you knew where the limit lay, and woe betide you if you stepped over it.. That's my opinion anyway buddy, for what it's worth. Has 'likeable' Chrissy Powell got that ruthless streak about him? I dunno really but somehow feel he might not? For instance, would you expect Nige to be swinging on a crossbar after a win? I doubt it.. he'd be waiting to get the lads in and tell them 'well done', but keep your feet on the ground', I suspect.
Jace Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Unfortunately he's just not good enough for Leicester any more... We are on about as an addition to the coaching staff not as a player again
TJB-fox Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 Tell you what, if Jeff is to continue learning his trade as a fullback he could learn a lot from Powell.
Sooper Steve's shin Posted 11 March 2014 Posted 11 March 2014 As many have said, he is unlikely to go back to being a coach If we get promoted, then I'm not sure that Premier League coach is a step down from League One/lower Championship manager. I would guess the package would be the same or better, he'd be involved in the top league with a decent set-up. If he was offered the job and had no immediate managerial alternative, I assume he would want it.
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