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They are good but sometimes I get the impression that's manufactured

 

I agree. 

 

I was thinking about this last night, even though from the start of the second half up until they scored their first goal they were really quiet. 

 

If you are that loud at every home game, which is all well and good I suppose, surely the players just become accustomed to it and you lose the motivation factor that it can bring, don't get me wrong when Palace got their first and the fans started again it seemed to raise the players game, did it first half though? Palace were average. 

 

Will Leicester players raise their games to chanting if it is constant to that level? I doubt it. 

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Say what you like about HF05 but they've transformed Palace from being an average fanbase at best to one that gets plaudits and recognition. I hope we follow their kind of path.

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I'd like to know where these "ultras" were when i went 4 or 5 years ago to one of the quietest crowds i had ever seen. Even the first game of the season under Sousa when we went 3-0 down i remember completely outsinging them.

Now suddenly they have the best fans in England and pundits cant talk about it enough. 

It seems with the Premier League, the Pundits have that little interest outside the top 6 that they need to label a couple of extra clubs with "great fans" so they have something to talk about. Stoke had it when they first come up too.

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I'd like to know where these "ultras" were when i went 4 or 5 years ago to one of the quietest crowds i had ever seen. Even the first game of the season under Sousa when we went 3-0 down i remember completely outsinging them.

Now suddenly they have the best fans in England and pundits cant talk about it enough.

It seems with the Premier League, the Pundits have that little interest outside the top 6 that they need to label a couple of extra clubs with "great fans" so they have something to talk about. Stoke had it when they first come up too.

Contrary to popular belief you can't just 'manufacture' an Ultras group. It takes a huge amount of time to gain the respect of other fans, get a decent number to join you, get the Club onside and ensure that everyone has the same mentality to go for it all game, every game.

I have no idea how many members HF05 have but over the last couple of years they have really taken off and the first part of that was Steve Parish effectively giving them the all clear. The capos have also got older - now not just seen as a bunch of kids - which leads to a lot more respect around the ground meaning the whole ground is getting involved with them more often.

I didn't watch the game but I bet Uncle Albert is right about them being quite quiet until they pulled one back. I also bet that the Holmesdale Fanatics were the opposite. Sadly it doesn't matter what game or ground you are at, if your team is doing shit the vast majority of your crowd will be silent even despite the best efforts of your 'singing areas'.

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I'd like to know where these "ultras" were when i went 4 or 5 years ago to one of the quietest crowds i had ever seen. Even the first game of the season under Sousa when we went 3-0 down i remember completely outsinging them.

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Not sure about that, personally thought they were superb that game under Sousa, infact I'd say it's possibly the loudest home fans I've witnessed, albiet that's not very hard considering most grounds are like morgues.
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I for one hope that we don't get pigeon-holed into the 'plucky promoted team that will be a tough place to go' category by Sky.

 

Every year they have one promoted club who they choose as the one with the honest, loud fans who make up for the short-comings of their underdog team. They tried to do it with Cardiff this season until they realised that their fans are actually pretty poor and they've now moved on to Palace now that their season fits with the narrative (i.e. defying the odds to stay up and picking up points at home).

 

I'd far rather our support just be genuinely good and us have a team to match it on the pitch, with respect for how good we actually are rather than our spirit.

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Palace is the ground nearest my home. I've been to a few games over the years. Their fans are brilliant. I think they have taken a pride in for years actually. We could learn a lot from them. Their 'Glad All Over' at the beginning of each home game really helps. I love our bugle, but it doesn't do the same trick by getting the fans vocals going. I do genuinely believe a drum helps too. It doesn't manufacture a false atmosphere, it just rouses the whole stand especially when the person playing it is bouncing up and down.
I saw a Leicester v Palace FA cup game at Filbert St years and years ago. We won in the last minute. For the whole 90 minutes the away end loudly sang 'Steve Coppell's Blue and Yellow Army'. It was loud and relentless. 

Our away fans are brilliant. At home it's like a library.

Posted

Palace sound really good at home nowadays. I've been once and it wasn't like that at all. They take decent numbers away as well and make a bit of noise. Well done to them.

 

Pleased for Palace actually. Starting to like Pulis and what he's achieved there.

Posted

Hope we can replicate the atmosphere they've produced this season. It'll be tougher due to the fact we've got an all seater stadium.

Posted

****ing 'capos' and 'ultras'? Let's have it right lads, it's not a mob family, it's not a proper set of Serie A ultras - it's a bunch of fat, drunken, Danny-Dyer wannabe, South-London twats singing different variations of Sloop John B and other shit recycled songs.

I went to Palace away at the end of last season and they could barely muster a whimper, except for the thirty seconds after they scored.

Posted

Say what you like about HF05 but they've transformed Palace from being an average fanbase at best to one that gets plaudits and recognition. I hope we follow their kind of path.

 

As long as that doesn't involve copying all their songs...

Posted

Hope we can replicate the atmosphere they've produced this season. It'll be tougher due to the fact we've got an all seater stadium.

 

As have they? Assume you meant a traditional ground though.

 

****ing 'capos' and 'ultras'? Let's have it right lads, it's not a mob family, it's not a proper set of Serie A ultras - it's a bunch of fat, drunken, Danny-Dyer wannabe, South-London twats singing different variations of Sloop John B and other shit recycled songs.

I went to Palace away at the end of last season and they could barely muster a whimper, except for the thirty seconds after they scored.

 

Got to start somewhere. Do you reckon Lazio turned up on their first ever game with 10k ultras?

Well all songs are copied along the line from somewhere

 

Not necessarily.

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Palace is the ground nearest my home. I've been to a few games over the years. Their fans are brilliant. I think they have taken a pride in for years actually. We could learn a lot from them. Their 'Glad All Over' at the beginning of each home game really helps. I love our bugle, but it doesn't do the same trick by getting the fans vocals going. I do genuinely believe a drum helps too. It doesn't manufacture a false atmosphere, it just rouses the whole stand especially when the person playing it is bouncing up and down.

I saw a Leicester v Palace FA cup game at Filbert St years and years ago. We won in the last minute. For the whole 90 minutes the away end loudly sang 'Steve Coppell's Blue and Yellow Army'. It was loud and relentless. 

Our away fans are brilliant. At home it's like a library.

 

 

I remember that game. Sweet free kick from Mills in the last minute, Richard Smith lashing the ball in at the Filbert St end. First FA Cup game we'd won in about 6 or 7 years I think.

Palace had a player sent off if my memory serves me right. January 1992?

Posted

Well all songs are copied along the line from somewhere

 

Brilliant. I'll look forward to us singing You'll Never Walk Alone, Blaydon Races, On The Ball City etc next season then.

Posted

Palace fans are by and large upper middle class cheese balls from Surrey.

Famous for taking carrier bags to games and noting down on a piece of paper the exact time the referee pull his pants out of his arse crack amongst other pointless things.

Someone pass the zit cream!

Cheese rolls!

Posted

Palace fans are by and large upper middle class cheese balls from Surrey.

Famous for taking carrier bags to games and noting down on a piece of paper the exact time the referee pull his pants out of his arse crack amongst other pointless things.

Someone pass the zit cream!

Cheese rolls!

 

And yet they still offer a better atmosphere than we do at home. So what does that say about us?

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The thing is, I like their group but they've completely sold out any original fan culture they had in a pursuit of being European and looking like St Pauli. The majority of their songs you can see on Youtube being done better and louder by European teams. I'd rather be singing proper songs that are actually to do with our team!

Posted

I for one hope that we don't get pigeon-holed into the 'plucky promoted team that will be a tough place to go' category by Sky.

Every year they have one promoted club who they choose as the one with the honest, loud fans who make up for the short-comings of their underdog team. They tried to do it with Cardiff this season until they realised that their fans are actually pretty poor and they've now moved on to Palace now that their season fits with the narrative (i.e. defying the odds to stay up and picking up points at home).

Luckily for us, your description has Burnley and Turf Moor written all over it.

As for Palace, was at Selhurst Park for the 2-2 last season and it was a ****ing library. Apart from us - we were excellent (in my humble opinion).

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The thing is, I like their group but they've completely sold out any original fan culture they had in a pursuit of being European and looking like St Pauli. The majority of their songs you can see on Youtube being done better and louder by European teams. I'd rather be singing proper songs that are actually to do with our team!

The question is when are we going to start doing that......

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