Kitchandro Posted 19 May 2014 Author Posted 19 May 2014 Yep, did they come from Sainsburys or am I just imagining that? No you are correct! Here's BBCs USA 94 review
Kitchandro Posted 19 May 2014 Author Posted 19 May 2014 I have found that little Four Four Two intro. Of course it's out of date now, but I've picked out the last few paragraphs and edited it slightly to be relevant to this year. It's simply put but I think it sums it up perfectly: THE WAITING IS OVER... 'Beneath the battle to win the trophy, plenty of enthralling sub-plots will be played out; heroes will emerge and immortality will be grasped. And for a whole month we will all immerse ourselves in the drama of it all. When else would we care about a game such as Ecuador against Honduras? When it is all over, when the winning side is parading the trophy comes the worst kind of Sunday evening back-to-work feeling. You know that you have to wait an agonising three years and 11 months for it to start all over again. FIFA President Sepp Blatter is keen to have the World Cup every two years in shite countries like Qatar in our winter time, but that would surely dilute the pleasure. We enjoy it so much because it comes around just once every four years. The waiting is over. Savour it while it lasts.
Footballwipe Posted 20 May 2014 Posted 20 May 2014 Fever? Fever? I've had 2014 WC fever since the day after the 2010 final. First WC memory was 1998, can just about remember the Argentina penalty shoot-out as a 8 year old, remember the Vauxhall Tigra sponsor ad from ITV's coverage and my dad letting me have half a can of beer while watching one of the matches on a warm Friday night. 2002 was supposed to be my first proper tournament but the time zone ruined it for me. I can remember everyone being abuzz at school when it went round that Senegal had beaten France in the opening game. England matches I remember vividly though, Sweden on a Sunday morning, Argentina on a Friday lunchtime during half term and then watching the Nigeria and Brazil games in school as they suspended lessons until the match was over. Then to 2006. This was during my GCSE year so I got to watch pretty much every match, from the Germany-Costa Rica opener (and a good opening match at that) all the way through. I was absolutely devastated when we lost on penalties against Portugal, though my favourite memory was their game against the Netherlands, yellows and reds everywhere. The only game I missed that tournament (aside from the simultaneous matches) was the Argentina-Serbia & Montenegro game as I had an exam. Although 2010 was a pretty drab tournament overall, I loved it because I was on my second year university holiday so had the square root of bugger all to do. Most days would consist of waking up, pottering about until about midday then watching the matches at 12:30, 15:00 and 19:30. The only real memory of 2010 in terms of watching excitement was the Brazil-Netherlands game, really good match with a great Dutch turnaround. Otherwise like most will say it wasn't a classic. So while you didn't need to know my World Cup autobiography that's my fever, born from my time watching all the games from the last eight years. Really can't wait for this years like most. I know some people can't be bothered with it but there's something special about the WC, something special about being enthralled and looking forward to Honduras v Switzerland, and matches like Iran-Nigeria being on prime-time BBC. 64 matches in 4 weeks, and 48 of those coming in just 15 days. Nothing beats it. I'm pretty much prepped for the tournament, discs, HDD, the rearranged work times. All I need is a wallchart now. I'm a sad fvcker but the World Cup. My god.
Amin Posted 20 May 2014 Posted 20 May 2014 Fever? Fever? I've had 2014 WC fever since the day after the 2010 final. First WC memory was 1998, can just about remember the Argentina penalty shoot-out as a 8 year old, remember the Vauxhall Tigra sponsor ad from ITV's coverage and my dad letting me have half a can of beer while watching one of the matches on a warm Friday night. 2002 was supposed to be my first proper tournament but the time zone ruined it for me. I can remember everyone being abuzz at school when it went round that Senegal had beaten France in the opening game. England matches I remember vividly though, Sweden on a Sunday morning, Argentina on a Friday lunchtime during half term and then watching the Nigeria and Brazil games in school as they suspended lessons until the match was over. Then to 2006. This was during my GCSE year so I got to watch pretty much every match, from the Germany-Costa Rica opener (and a good opening match at that) all the way through. I was absolutely devastated when we lost on penalties against Portugal, though my favourite memory was their game against the Netherlands, yellows and reds everywhere. The only game I missed that tournament (aside from the simultaneous matches) was the Argentina-Serbia & Montenegro game as I had an exam. Although 2010 was a pretty drab tournament overall, I loved it because I was on my second year university holiday so had the square root of bugger all to do. Most days would consist of waking up, pottering about until about midday then watching the matches at 12:30, 15:00 and 19:30. The only real memory of 2010 in terms of watching excitement was the Brazil-Netherlands game, really good match with a great Dutch turnaround. Otherwise like most will say it wasn't a classic. So while you didn't need to know my World Cup autobiography that's my fever, born from my time watching all the games from the last eight years. Really can't wait for this years like most. I know some people can't be bothered with it but there's something special about the WC, something special about being enthralled and looking forward to Honduras v Switzerland, and matches like Iran-Nigeria being on prime-time BBC. 64 matches in 4 weeks, and 48 of those coming in just 15 days. Nothing beats it. I'm pretty much prepped for the tournament, discs, HDD, the rearranged work times. All I need is a wallchart now. I'm a sad fvcker but the World Cup. My god. Great post which pretty much sums up my feelings towards the World Cup too.
Jiggers the Fox Posted 20 May 2014 Posted 20 May 2014 Absolutely love the World Cup! Found a decent article from just before the last one. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/392845-2010-fifa-world-cup-the-top-ten-world-cups-of-all-time
ScouseFox Posted 20 May 2014 Posted 20 May 2014 This too is my first major tournament that doesn't clash with exams. 2012 was a levels, 2010 gcses, 2008 we didn't qualify and I wasn't old enough to go the pub an get whammed any time before then. Now I work in a bookies I don't even have the problem of missing a game cos of work cos we show them all. Can't wait to be a bit bored in work but remember it's all ok because Mexico and playing japan in half an hour.
Manwell Pablo Posted 20 May 2014 Posted 20 May 2014 World cups are amazing, 1994 was the best purely from a neutral point of view for me. Best England performance would be 2002, we actually played well in spells in Japan and South Korea, and beer for breakfast was a bonus.
Ric Flair Posted 20 May 2014 Posted 20 May 2014 If you're English and this doesnt give you shivers then something is wrong!! That might just be the best thing i've ever seen! WOW
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 20 May 2014 Posted 20 May 2014 I need to get a TV aerial installed so I can get ITV in time for the cup.
Kitchandro Posted 20 May 2014 Author Posted 20 May 2014 Some good blogs from 4 years ago on the beeb - goals of the tournament and match highlights on there as well. Here's the 1966 edition: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/jonathanstevenson/2010/05/the_story_of_the_1966_world_cu.html And here's 1970: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/jonathanstevenson/2010/05/the_story_of_the_1970_world_cu.html I'll post the others in the coming days
Kitchandro Posted 21 May 2014 Author Posted 21 May 2014 BBC blog for the 1974 World Cup: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jonathanstevenson/2010/05/the_story_of_the_1974_world_cu.html And for 1978: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jonathanstevenson/2010/05/the_story_of_the_1978_world_cu.html
Nalis Posted 21 May 2014 Posted 21 May 2014 The only game I missed that tournament (aside from the simultaneous matches) was the Argentina-Serbia & Montenegro game as I had an exam. So the only game you missed was the biggest hammering and probably one of the best games of that tournament Great post by the way.
Kitchandro Posted 21 May 2014 Author Posted 21 May 2014 That Cambiasso goal v Serbia wipes the floor with that famous Brazil team goal in the 1970 final.
Guest ttfn Posted 22 May 2014 Posted 22 May 2014 That Cambiasso goal v Serbia wipes the floor with that famous Brazil team goal in the 1970 final. There's some nice touches at the end of that Argentina goal but the first 20-odd passes are completely routine. There's nothing in there to rival the Clodoaldo skill at the start of the move. Also, context is everything - this was a goal scored in the last minute of a World Cup final by the captain of possibly the greatest side of all time.
Kitchandro Posted 22 May 2014 Author Posted 22 May 2014 There's some nice touches at the end of that Argentina goal but the first 20-odd passes are completely routine. There's nothing in there to rival the Clodoaldo skill at the start of the move. Also, context is everything - this was a goal scored in the last minute of a World Cup final by the captain of possibly the greatest side of all time. I don't agree, a great goal is a great goal. What difference does it make how good the players are? Why even debate the quality of the goal if any tap in is considered great because of which player/team scored it? The Clodoaldo skill is irrelevant on it's own if we're talking about a team goal, that is one player doing some skill in his own half. EVERY pass in the Brazil goal is routine - there is no pressure on the ball, the passes aren't particularly quick nor do they need to be pinpoint to find their man. The Argentina goal is a much better team goal; they're patient, the movement off the ball is good - and the bit at the end consists of several lightning quick, skilful and perfectly waited single touches, with defenders inches from getting a foot in. I don't think the Brazil one should even be compared with that Argentina goal.
Grandad. Posted 22 May 2014 Posted 22 May 2014 I don't agree, a great goal is a great goal. What difference does it make how good the players are? Why even debate the quality of the goal if any tap in is considered great because of which player/team scored it? The Clodoaldo skill is irrelevant on it's own if we're talking about a team goal, that is one player doing some skill in his own half. EVERY pass in the Brazil goal is routine - there is no pressure on the ball, the passes aren't particularly quick nor do they need to be pinpoint to find their man. The Argentina goal is a much better team goal; they're patient, the movement off the ball is good - and the bit at the end consists of several lightning quick, skilful and perfectly waited single touches, with defenders inches from getting a foot in. I don't think the Brazil one should even be compared with that Argentina goal. Mate the context has everything to do with a great goal, it is what they are remembered for. Cambiasso scoring the second goal in a 6-0 win is hardly as memorable as a goal in the last minute of a World Cup Final.
Kitchandro Posted 22 May 2014 Author Posted 22 May 2014 World Cup Heaven and Hell: Dirty Rotten Scandals. First aired in 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj44tGgxJ7U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv8AqjDIXYU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGxU2OI5OPg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTeVim_H8I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_vlLma4Rw8
Kitchandro Posted 22 May 2014 Author Posted 22 May 2014 Mate the context has everything to do with a great goal, it is what they are remembered for. Cambiasso scoring the second goal in a 6-0 win is hardly as memorable as a goal in the last minute of a World Cup Final. I'm talking about the quality of the goal here, not how memorable it is. The Brazil goal is considered one of the best ever team goals, all I'm saying is that's total rubbish based on hype and nostalgia. Sure it's memorable in terms of context, but not in quality compared to the Argentina goal.
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 May 2014 Posted 22 May 2014 I'm talking about the quality of the goal here, not how memorable it is. The Brazil goal is considered one of the best ever team goals, all I'm saying is that's total rubbish based on hype and nostalgia. Sure it's memorable in terms of context, but not in quality compared to the Argentina goal. If you consider passing a ball backwards and sideways 10 yards difficult than yeah, great goal.
Kitchandro Posted 22 May 2014 Author Posted 22 May 2014 If you consider passing a ball backwards and sideways 10 yards difficult than yeah, great goal. Not sure what you're getting at but I consider quick, precise passing that cuts open a defence an attribute of a great goal.
Manwell Pablo Posted 22 May 2014 Posted 22 May 2014 Not sure what you're getting at but I consider quick, precise passing that cuts open a defence an attribute of a great goal. The first 1:25 seconds of the Argentina goal are irrelevant then.
Guest ttfn Posted 22 May 2014 Posted 22 May 2014 Not sure what you're getting at but I consider quick, precise passing that cuts open a defence an attribute of a great goal. In which case the fact that there were 25 passes in the Argentina goal is irrelevant. It would have been just as good a goal if they'd won the ball high up the pitch and made those last 5 passes, which were all brilliant. The first 20 were virtually pointless, they didn't work any space at all (it's the one touch stuff at the end that works the space). Pretty confident that despite being a terrible footballer I'd have both thought of and completed about 18 of those passes. As for that Clodoaldo skill being irrelevant I couldn't disagree more. A team goal is augmented by the individual bits of skill that pull it together - he took 3 players out of the game.
Kitchandro Posted 22 May 2014 Author Posted 22 May 2014 The first 1:25 seconds of the Argentina goal are irrelevant then. In which case the fact that there were 25 passes in the Argentina goal is irrelevant. It would have been just as good a goal if they'd won the ball high up the pitch and made those last 5 passes, which were all brilliant. The first 20 were virtually pointless, they didn't work any space at all (it's the one touch stuff at the end that works the space). Pretty confident that despite being a terrible footballer I'd have both thought of and completed about 18 of those passes. As for that Clodoaldo skill being irrelevant I couldn't disagree more. A team goal is augmented by the individual bits of skill that pull it together - he took 3 players out of the game. Yeh, but the rest of it is pure class. Whereas the crucial parts of the Brazil goal were fairly bog standard. I accept that the Clodoaldo dribble is superb but really, there was plenty of time for the Italians to get back, had they had the energy. I'm not sure that piece of skill alone can make it the best team goal of all time. I think the Argentina goal had numerous players with sublime touches later in the move. Anyway, obviously we're not in agreement here so I won't go on about it any more.
Kitchandro Posted 22 May 2014 Author Posted 22 May 2014 Another thing that has to be done is World Cup drinking games. Looking through old mags I found one for when you're watching the TV coverage this could be a good one for the first Saturday during the two earlier matches whilst you're preparing for the carnage of England v Italy in the evening. It doesn't matter what units you're using; two fingers, 'a swig', half the bottle, the whole bottle, or a shot or whatever, but you have to down one every time one of the following happens: 1) The boys of 66 are mentioned. 2) A player is caught blurting an expletive to one of the officials (it's a double if it's Rooney) 3) Woy pronounces an 'R' as a 'W' in his pre or post match interview. 4) The cameras cut to reaction from a pub/fan park. 5) The camera cuts to a fit bird in the crowd. 6) The camera cuts to a fan in fancy dress 7) Any time an advert appears with the words 'official sponsor'. 8) Any player crying 9) Any fan crying 10) Roy Keane's eye's open wide to the extent you think he's going to knife one of his co-presenters. 11) Alan Hansen lays into a defence 12) Gary Lineker makes a brilliantly delivered pun. And so on and so forth, you can add as many as you like. Anyone else got any good ones?
bluerose Posted 23 May 2014 Posted 23 May 2014 Posted on another thread but should probably be on here. Unofficial world cup song... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWjxw2oxNHY
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