purpleronnie Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 http://www.fsf.org.uk/assets/Downloads/News/2014/Away-Fans-Survey-League-Tables.pdf We finish above derby and forest....again. Premier League Cardiff City 8.05 Swansea City7.40 Hull City7.34 Southampton7.25 Arsenal 7.11 Fulham 7.08 Norwich City 6.89 Sunderland 6.87 West Bromwich Albion 6.78 Newcastle United 6.70 Tottenham Hotspur 6.69 Manchester City 6.67 Stoke City 6.45 Manchester United 6.41 Aston Villa 6.34 Chelsea 5.96 West Ham 5.89 Everton 5.71 Liverpool 5.41 Crystal Palace 4.79 Premier League Average 6.56 National Average 6.44 Championship Wigan Athletic 7.92 Reading 7.54 Blackburn Rovers 7.37 Brighton and Hove Albion 7.30 Leicester City 7.27 Bournemouth 7.21 Derby County 7.17 Huddersfield Town 7.03 Doncaster Rovers 6.91 Birmingham City 6.86 Middlesbrough 6.80 Barnsley 6.78 Watford 6.74 Charlton Athletic 6.55 Yeovil Town 6.53 Ipswich Town 6.46 Nottingham Forest 5.94 Bolton Wanderers 5.65 Millwall 5.29 Sheffield Wednesday 5.27 Blackpool 4.72 Burnley 4.67 QPR 4.67 Leeds United 4.12 Championship Average 6.31 National Average 6.44 League One MK Dons 7.73 Preston North End 7.51 Rotherham United 7.41 Wolves 7.39 Bradford City 6.94 Crewe Alexandra 6.86 Crawley Town 6.85 Carlisle United 6.79 Notts County 6.76 Walsall 6.71 Sheffield United 6.70 Coventry City 6.65 Stevenage 6.62 Brentford 6.44 Tranmere Rovers 6.42 Shrewsbury Town 6.33 Leyton Orient 6.25 Port Vale 6.20 Bristol City 5.91 Colchester United 5.75 Swindon Town 5.73 Oldham Athletic 5.35 Peterborough United 5.14 Gillingham 3.69 League Average 6.53 National Average 6.44 League Two Plymouth Argyle 8.33 Torquay United 7.87 Rochdale 7.86 Chesterfield 7.47 Dagenham and Redbridge 7.20 Fleetwood Town 7.10 Morecambe 7.06 Wycombe Wanderers 6.93 Northampton Town 6.91 Burton Albion 6.69 Southend United 6.52 Accrington Stanley 6.29 Portsmouth 6.23 AFC Wimbledon 6.09 Scunthorpe United 6.09 Hartlepool United 6.00 Newport County 5.83 Mansfield Town 5.77 York City 5.74 Bury 5.60 Oxford United 5.52 Cheltenham Town 5.34 Bristol Rovers 4.60 Exeter City 3.83 League Average 6.36 National Average 6.44
Lamby Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 We finish above Millsmall and Palarse, It's about time they took notice that we're number one in South London.
Corky Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 We finish above Millsmall and Palarse, It's about time they took notice that we're number one in South London. One is in the Premier League, the other finished above you in the Championship.
SystonFox Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 We finish above Millsmall and Palarse, It's about time they took notice that we're number one in South London. ultimate bantz
Lamby Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 One is in the Premier League, the other finished above you in the Championship. Have a look at the Champ table again, we finished above them again, this normally happens.
Corky Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 Have a look at the Champ table again, we finished above them again, this normally happens. Oh yes, so you did, well done.
Dan Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 MK Dons coming top of League One makes me take it with a pinch of salt.
Voll Blau Posted 11 June 2014 Posted 11 June 2014 We finish above Millsmall and Palarse, It's about time they took notice that we're number one in South London. Wrong thread mate. The topic of "shit puns on football team names used only by idiots who for some reason think it's the funniest/most insulting thing ever" is being discussed in the "Fryatt to Florist" thread.
Banks Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 Obviously you'd rather support a team like Palace or Millwall, at least Palace are now known for the Holmesdale fanatics and their alright home atmosphere, supporting Millwall would be a laugh, Charlton are just... There
Stadt Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 MK Dons coming top of League One makes me take it with a pinch of salt.What does the rating actually measure?
Alf Bentley Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 Rather depressingly, most of the highest-rated stadiums are the new, plastic identikit variety - and most of the lowest-rated stadiums seem to be the more characterful, older stadiums. So, it seems as if people really do want to live in a monotonous plastic consumer-world.
purpleronnie Posted 12 June 2014 Author Posted 12 June 2014 What does the rating actually measure? Fans were asked to rate the clubs on various factors such as safety and security, transport to the ground, access at the turnstiles, the concourse layout, food and drink, and the view of the pitch. The FSF will feed these results back to the clubs/leagues with the ultimate aim of improving the away experience for football supporters. The FSF is the national supporters’ organisation for all football fans from England and Wales comprising more than 500,000 individual fans and members of local supporters’ organisations from every club in the professional structure and beyond. Find out more about the FSF and its campaigns via www.fsf.org.uk or on Twitter @The_FSF. Most important factors when choosing a match Percentage Distance of travel 44 Time/day of kick-off 42.6 Price of a match ticket 40.4 Cost of travel 37.8 Whether friends/family are attending 25.2 Attend them all regardless 17.1 Good matchday pubs 13.7 Treatment by the home club 13.2 Level of competition 11.2 Level of opposition 6.5 Other activities around the match 5.2 Likelihood of victory 3.9
Stadt Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 Fans were asked to rate the clubs on various factors such as safety and security, transport to the ground, access at the turnstiles, the concourse layout, food and drink, and the view of the pitch. The FSF will feed these results back to the clubs/leagues with the ultimate aim of improving the away experience for football supporters. The FSF is the national supporters’ organisation for all football fans from England and Wales comprising more than 500,000 individual fans and members of local supporters’ organisations from every club in the professional structure and beyond. Find out more about the FSF and its campaigns via www.fsf.org.uk or on Twitter @The_FSF. Most important factors when choosing a match Percentage Distance of travel 44 Time/day of kick-off 42.6 Price of a match ticket 40.4 Cost of travel 37.8 Whether friends/family are attending 25.2 Attend them all regardless 17.1 Good matchday pubs 13.7 Treatment by the home club 13.2 Level of competition 11.2 Level of opposition 6.5 Other activities around the match 5.2 Likelihood of victory 3.9 I didn't read it properly the first time
Father Ted Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 Are these tables upside down?! Honestly, Wigan, Reading, Brighton in the top 4 and then QPR, Burnley, Blackpool, Sheffield Wednesday in the bottom 5. Crazy. Definitely a happy clappers survey.
Harry - LCFC Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 Fans were asked to rate the clubs on various factors such as safety and security, transport to the ground, access at the turnstiles, the concourse layout, food and drink, and the view of the pitch. The FSF will feed these results back to the clubs/leagues with the ultimate aim of improving the away experience for football supporters. The FSF is the national supporters’ organisation for all football fans from England and Wales comprising more than 500,000 individual fans and members of local supporters’ organisations from every club in the professional structure and beyond. Find out more about the FSF and its campaigns via www.fsf.org.uk or on Twitter @The_FSF. Most important factors when choosing a match Percentage [...] Likelihood of victory 3.9 Don't think that's it. I did this myself and they asked you to do individual surveys on each game - the points listed preceded questions about the service at the club itself. They asked you about things like stewarding, programme quality and food outlets. EDIT: Yes, it's the first paragraph you should be looking at rather than the bullet points. Rather depressingly, most of the highest-rated stadiums are the new, identikit variety - and most of the lowest-rated stadiums seem to be the more characterful, older stadiums. So, it seems as if people really do want to live in a monotonous consumer-world. Not sure that's right. They were trying to gauge how well clubs served visiting supporters with the questions they asked. I don't think there were questions about how much you liked the ground itself although I could be wrong.
Alf Bentley Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 Don't think that's it. I did this myself and they asked you to do individual surveys on each game - the points listed preceded questions about the service at the club itself. They asked you about things like stewarding, programme quality and food outlets. EDIT: Yes, it's the first paragraph you should be looking at rather than the bullet points. Not sure that's right. They were trying to gauge how well clubs served visiting supporters with the questions they asked. I don't think there were questions about how much you liked the ground itself although I could be wrong. Fair enough, Harry. Re-reading that, it looks like you're right. It seems like they've asked people what mattered to them when choosing to attend a match and got the answers you'd expect re. ticket prices, distance to travel, kick-off time/day, friends attending, decent pubs etc. Then they've asked fans about the sort of "customer service" issues that you mention - and based the ratings on that. As always with surveys, the findings can only reflect the questions used in the survey. It would've been more interesting if they hadn't limited the ratings to "customer service", but had included issues like ticket prices and kick-off times. I suspect that the league tables might have looked quite different...
CosbehFox Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 If distance to travel was the biggest factor, how hell was Plymouth rated League 2's best away day.
Voll Blau Posted 12 June 2014 Posted 12 June 2014 Are these tables upside down?! Honestly, Wigan, Reading, Brighton in the top 4 and then QPR, Burnley, Blackpool, Sheffield Wednesday in the bottom 5. Crazy. Definitely a happy clappers survey. "Leg room", "colourfulness of home team's mascot" and shite like that probably accounted for 80 per cent of the marks.
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