We may not have spent much but

[Lineker's Left Foot]

You look at us and Burnley, bottom 2, you look at burnley's squad and you would say they are certain to go downn, you look at us having spent £8m more (basically the Ulloa fee) and you can tell straight away that we have a better squad. Dyche can moan all he likes about the lack of money, but when he had money to spend, when compared to Pearson, he has spent it dreadfully. Vardy cost £1m, George Boyd has cost them £3m, who is the better striker? Riyad cost us 400k, Kightly cost them £1.5m, who is the better winger. Truth be told, Pearson could have Burnley stay up if he was their manager, and he chose their signings along with his staff. So glad we have him as our manager.

IMO we were ready to go up, but Burnley are at least two years away from that and so think they may plummet like Derby did, when they went up and come straight back down

[Guest ttfn]

Parachute payments mostly, also an easy £5m input from their wealthy owner. Also quite possible that they will have failed last year and will have to pay a fine.

The sanctions aren't strong enough though. Assuming they did fail FFP last season they'll easily be able to afford the fine now they're back in the prem. Had they stayed down they would have got a transfer embargo but they obviously weren't too concerned about that. It was supposed to stop clubs gambling on promotion but here we have a club who has done exactly that in the first season it was introduced. Big fail.

They will definitely have failed it.

No amount of clever accounting is going to make a club whose third choice goalkeeper earned £80k a week for 2/3 of the season come into line with FFP.

[Lineker's Left Foot]

FFP just doesn't work. QPR have the smallest ground, how can they be half way up the spending table?

I am no expert or ITK but am sure that Lakshmi Mittal is pulling the strings financially for QPR. His investment is a drop in the ocean for him so maybe why they can spend heavily???

[BlackburnClaret]

Kightly and Mahrez aren't dissimilar in talent, but would believe Mahrez to be better value ! Boyd a better striker than Vardy ??? i take it you're a Rugby League fan then!!

No it was just a silly answer to a silly comparison. Boyd isn't a striker. As for Kightly we were already tied into that deal from the conditions of the loan. His performances in the last 5 games were arguably worth that fee alone.

Did I really read earlier that you now have 20m defender?

[BlackburnClaret]

To be fair, your comments are very fair and valid mate. I hadn't thought of the PL/championship divide like that. But my stance is the same, I believe Pearson could improve Burnley more than Dyche's has if he was given the £6/7m that Burnley have spent this summer, even without our 'fancy' scouting network.

Really? Last season aside his record is patchy, at best. Listen, I really like him, but don't get carried away.

[Guest ttfn]

No it was just a silly answer to a silly comparison. Boyd isn't a striker. As for Kightly we were already tied into that deal from the conditions of the loan. His performances in the last 5 games were arguably worth that fee alone.

Did I really read earlier that you now have 20m defender?

No you didn't.

[Matt]

No it was just a silly answer to a silly comparison. Boyd isn't a striker. As for Kightly we were already tied into that deal from the conditions of the loan. His performances in the last 5 games were arguably worth that fee alone.

Did I really read earlier that you now have 20m defender?

 

You read someone getting way ahead of themselves thinking he'll be worth £15 - 20m.

 

IMO that's way OTT, he's good, very good and he'll be worth a fair few million but let's just calm down, I think it's very unlikely he'll be worth that estimation just yet.

[Stadt]

Really? Last season aside his record is patchy, at best. Listen, I really like him, but don't get carried away.

In his four full seasons with us we've been promoted twice and reached the plays offs twice whilst having to cut our cloth because of Sven's mess and widely expected to be sacked.

Pretty impressive I'd say

[dpjfox]

we should have plenty left to spend in the January window, hopefully to consolodate our position and not "fire fight" to get out of bottom 3

[MooseBreath]

I am no expert or ITK but am sure that Lakshmi Mittal is pulling the strings financially for QPR. His investment is a drop in the ocean for him so maybe why they can spend heavily???

Doesn't matter how much the owner was willing to invest, for the purposes of championship FFP last season the maximum amount of debt any owner could bankroll was £5m.

[NGoloMode]

The fact Liam Moore is English sends his price through the roof if he has a good season.

[fleckneymike]

To be fair, your comments are very fair and valid mate. I hadn't thought of the PL/championship divide like that. But my stance is the same, I believe Pearson could improve Burnley more than Dyche's has if he was given the £6/7m that Burnley have spent this summer, even without our 'fancy' scouting network.

I think both are excellent managers. I prefer Pearson because I find his dispassionate approach more appealing but Dyche has performed a minor miracle at Burnley.

Pearson is incredibly methodical, I'm not sure all clubs have the foresight, finances and confidence to allow him to work the way he does here.

[adamlcfcbevo85]

We may have only spent £18 million to assemble that squad, but what is it's current value and what is it's potential value if we stay up?

Purely guesswork valuation of some of our important players.

Kasper - 5 million

Moore - 4 million

Drinkwater - 4 million

Mahrez - 3 million

Vardy - 4 million

That's over 18 million.

your crazy by going what other teams value there players it would look more like this

Kasper 10mill

Moore 15 mill

Drinkwater 10mill

Mahrez 20 mill

Vardy 18mill

[Vicki Vixen]

FFP just doesn't work. QPR have the smallest ground, how can they be half way up the spending table?

 

FFP does not penalise clubs just because they have a small ground.  That would be anything but fair.  Who else do you think should be penalised on this basis - AFC Bournemouth?  Monaco?  

 

QPR's matchday revenues are a small proportion of total revenues, as is the case for most other PL clubs (in receipt of TV money) and recently relegated Championship sides (in receipt of parachute payments).  

[Guest ttfn]

FFP does not penalise clubs just because they have a small ground. That would be anything but fair. Who else do you think should be penalised on this basis - AFC Bournemouth? Monaco?

QPR's matchday revenues are a small proportion of total revenues, as is the case for most other PL clubs (in receipt of TV money) and recently relegated Championship sides (in receipt of parachute payments).

Right, but all things being equal (and this year our TV money will be materially the same as QPR's barring a miracle) capacity is an obvious differentiator.

[st albans fox]

If Liam has a good season then I guarantee we will receive a 8 figure transfer offer in the summer.

He only has to maintain his current form.

A quality young English CB - rare as hens teeth

[Devonfox1884]

IMO we were ready to go up, but Burnley are at least two years away from that and so think they may plummet like Derby did, when they went up and come straight back down

Agreed. If the Watford incident didn't happen and won at Wembley and came up, we would have gone straight back down IMO, we just weren't ready. The squad had another season together, some shrewd acquisitions have been made, our debts cleared, we are in a much better place to be in the premier league than we would have been a year ago. Still think Burnley will go down, but I like them as a club (bar Dyche) and I'm glad them now have a safe financial future. But their team looks like a chamionship side, bar Ings and Trippier, hence why I think they will go down.

[Maybes]

I'd much prefer to see a table that included the net spend.

 

Take Southampton for example. Way up the table but only because they've had to replace half of their first 11 from last season.

[Mad Dog]

Crikey. None of our players are worth £20m. Calm down lads.

[ScouseFox]

 Kightly and Mahrez aren't dissimilar in talent

 

   

 

craziest thing i've ever read on here. ever. 

[Stadt]

Why isn't Kightly in the Algeria squad then if he's so great?

[Burbo17J2]

In his four full seasons with us we've been promoted twice and reached the plays offs twice whilst having to cut our cloth because of Sven's mess and widely expected to be sacked.

Pretty impressive I'd say

We haven't been just promoted twice, we have won the league twice...