kingfox Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Had Albrighton turned in Schulpps performances so far this season he'd already have been written off instead of being compared to premier league greats. Schlupp has been more good than bad this season. If people think he played poorly against Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal & Burnley then they have serious mental issues. Was ineffective against Stoke, but he certainly wasn't crap. One bad game against Newcastle, and like Nugent when he under performs fans are quick to jump on him & make him a scapegoat.
Charl91 Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Schlupp has been more good than bad this season. If people think he played poorly against Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal & Burnley then they have serious mental issues. Was ineffective against Stoke, but he certainly wasn't crap. One bad game against Newcastle, and like Nugent when he under performs fans are quick to jump on him & make him a scapegoat. So you think every one of our players are Premiership standard then?
kingfox Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 So you think every one of our players are Premiership standard then? What's that got to do with what I just said. Jeff has put in some very good performances this season, plays poorly against Newcastle, and you have fans saying he should be loaned out to League 1, what a bunch of knobheads. On that question though course not, Knockaert certainly isn't Premiership standard, yet fans are quick to suck him off.
MC Prussian Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Seriously though. Since Cambiasso joined we've looked abysmal. Ulloa is playing like a sack of shit too. That's why we didn't win at Stoke.
Russell sprout Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Schlupp has been more good than bad this season. If people think he played poorly against Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal & Burnley then they have serious mental issues. Was ineffective against Stoke, but he certainly wasn't crap. One bad game against Newcastle, and like Nugent when he under performs fans are quick to jump on him & make him a scapegoat. Il agree he was fantastic against everton,He showed how clinical he is that day when he was put threw, One in one with Howard, And hits row z, It's not the 1st time and defo will not be his last, He is a liability And He's only half decent at left back, Ild rather we had dyer for the last 20 mins of a game than schullp for the 90?
MC Prussian Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Il agree he was fantastic against everton, He showed how clinical he is that day when he was out threw, One in one with Howard, And hits row z, It's not the 1st time and defo will not be his last, He's only half decent at left back, Ild rather we had dyer for the last 20 mins of a game than schullp for the 90? It remains all theory to assume Lloyd Dyer would've been a better goalscorer in Schlupp's position for us in the Premier League. May I remind you of all the instances where Dyer fluffed it wide, too? Like I've mentioned in the Newcastle post match thread, comparing the two is unfair. To me, it's like putting a ten-year old Porsche and a three-year old Lamborghini next to one another. "What's the difference?" you may ask. There's none, really. They're both quick as hell and in the end it all depends on how you use them and for how much longer they're any good.
Charl91 Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 What's that got to do with what I just said. Jeff has put in some very good performances this season, plays poorly against Newcastle, and you have fans saying he should be loaned out to League 1, what a bunch of knobheads. On that question though course not, Knockaert certainly isn't Premiership standard, yet fans are quick to suck him off. Schlupp isn't a very good player. He might have good physical attributes, but his decision making, ball control, shooting, passing are too poor. For every good moment he has, he makes two terrible mistakes. I still remember the first leg of the Watford play-off final, when he almost single-handedly got us knocked out by gifting the opponents with some lovely through balls. I don't think he should be loaned out to a league one club, but he's championship standard at best at the moment. Maybe a loan would do him some good. You honestly think Schlupp is a better player than Knockaert?
Charl91 Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 It remains all theory to assume Lloyd Dyer would've been a better goalscorer in Schlupp's position for us in the Premier League. May I remind you of all the instances where Dyer fluffed it wide, too? Like I've mentioned in the Newcastle post match thread, comparing the two is unfair. To me, it's like putting a ten-year old Porsche and a three-year old Lamborghini next to one another. "What's the difference?" you may ask. There's none, really. They're both quick as hell and in the end it all depends on how you use them and for how much longer they're any good. Dyers finishing was usually terrible, but to give him some credit, he improved it tremendously in his last season here. He got 10 goals for us last season! That's brilliant from a winger. Some cracking finishes in there too.
Russell sprout Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 It remains all theory to assume Lloyd Dyer would've been a better goalscorer in Schlupp's position for us in the Premier League.May I remind you of all the instances where Dyer fluffed it wide, too? Like I've mentioned in the Newcastle post match thread, comparing the two is unfair. To me, it's like putting a ten-year old Porsche and a three-year old Lamborghini next to one another. "What's the difference?" you may ask. There's none, really. They're both quick as hell and in the end it all depends on how you use them and for how much longer they're any good. Dyer could at least influence a game and would have been great for 20 mins or so, Schullp cannot do that imo, I just don't see how schullp makes the bench let alone the starting 11, Beleive it or not I've wanted him to do well but he just carnt cutt it.
kingfox Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Il agree he was fantastic against everton, He showed how clinical he is that day when he was put threw, One in one with Howard, And hits row z, It's not the 1st time and defo will not be his last, He is a liability And He's only half decent at left back, Ild rather we had dyer for the last 20 mins of a game than schullp for the 90? People will always bring that miss up, but his overall performances have been generally pretty good. Yes he skied a one on one, which about ended up on the Moon; however when he came on, Leicester as a team went up a gear, Schlupp was causing problems & at times he had John Stones in a panic. Schlupp isn't a very good player. He might have good physical attributes, but his decision making, ball control, shooting, passing are too poor. For every good moment he has, he makes two terrible mistakes. I still remember the first leg of the Watford play-off final, when he almost single-handedly got us knocked out by gifting the opponents with some lovely through balls. I don't think he should be loaned out to a league one club, but he's championship standard at best at the moment. Maybe a loan would do him some good. You honestly think Schlupp is a better player than Knockaert? His decision making might not be the best at times, but neither was Dyer's. Ball control & passing are nowhere near poor, his link up play against Chelsea in particular was fantastic, his link up play against Burnley at times was very good, his move with Vardy which set up Mahrez's goal was absolute class. The back end of last season, Schlupp was one of our better players & he was getting praise for his performances at left-back, as soon as he has a poor game fans quickly say he is Championship standard, and are quick to forget his good performances against Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal & Burnley. What's Knockaert done to prove he is Premiership standard? He did jack shit against Everton, Schlupp did more in 30 minutes than Knockaert did. While his sub performances haven't lived up to much, you can have all the tricks you want, doesn't mean you will be any good at Premier League level.
MC Prussian Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Dyers finishing was usually terrible, but to give him some credit, he improved it tremendously in his last season here. He got 10 goals for us last season! That's brilliant from a winger. Some cracking finishes in there too. There you go. He probably had his best spell with us in his last year - at age 31. Devil's advocate says that was partly also down to him trying to impress and gain a new contract. Schlupp is ten years younger than that and can still improve.
Corky Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 Right now if I had a choice I'd have Dyer, his delivery and finishing is inconsistent as anything but he'd offer more of a threat than Schlupp. Dyer would be an outlet, Schlupp currently isn't. Dyer has gone and it's up to Schlupp to improve his game- his finishing, his crossing (yes the Arsenal one was great but needs to do it more) and his decision making in crucial areas. He's got the pace to be a handful, use it and put people under pressure with good passing too.
MC Prussian Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 It remains all theory to assume Lloyd Dyer would've been a better goalscorer in Schlupp's position for us in the Premier League. May I remind you of all the instances where Dyer fluffed it wide, too? Like I've mentioned in the Newcastle post match thread, comparing the two is unfair. To me, it's like putting a ten-year old Porsche and a three-year old Lamborghini next to one another. "What's the difference?" you may ask. There's none, really. They're both quick as hell and in the end it all depends on how you use them and for how much longer they're any good.[/ Dyer could at least influence a game and would have been great for 20 mins or so, Schullp cannot do that imo, I just don't see how schullp makes the bench let alone the starting 11, Beleive it or not I've wanted him to do well but he just carnt cutt it. Give the lad some time. Why does every 21-year old player (and an Academy product even!) have to turn out to be a world beater in an instant? Manchester United saw something in him, so there must be a way to unearth those skills further. Dyer was very often frustrating to watch and only improved as the end of his contract was nigh. Besides, we don't know how poor Dyer was at age 21, whilst being on the books of football powerhouse Kidderminster Harriers.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 21 October 2014 Posted 21 October 2014 This thread is just fvcking depressing. You don't like him, think he's not up to it, fine, maybe he isn't. But fvcking hell, what a bunch of entitled sounding cvnts a lot of you are, just slagging off beyond any form of reason one of our own players. Fvcking disgusting, you should be ashamed.
Stevosevic Posted 21 October 2014 Author Posted 21 October 2014 His first touch in Premier League football v Everton summed him up.
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