Mikey Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Schwarzer - 5 Simpson - 6 Huth - 8 Morgan - 7 Upson - 6 Konchesky - 7 Mahrez - 6 James - 7 Cambiasso - 9 Schlupp - 6 Kramaric - 7 Subs: Nugent - 7 Vardy - 7
narboroughblue Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Schwarzer 5 did ok today, bit slow at times when he needs to run but then he is 42!! Simpson 3 woeful again, scared on the ball and doesn't offer the outlet we need from a full back. How he gets paid to play premiership football is laughable. Wes 6 better today then recently and deserved his place. Huth 7 decent performance from Huth, loved him laughing at Lukaku. Upson 5 ok but very very slow. Not sure he's the answer. Konchesky 5 was ok, plenty of effort and nothing particularly wrong. Mahrez 5 didn't happen for him today, thought he was ok first 30 mins or so then disappeared. James 7 good solid performance from our best CM this year, as someone said above I think he will be playing in prem next year just hope it's with us. Cambiasso 8 excellent second half, missed him when he went off but had run out of gas. Schlupp 5 few good opportunities but not his day and a little frustrating again. Kramaric 6 worked hard and tidy on the ball, lacked composure with chance near the end. Vardy 6 two excellent assists but annoyed me when he claimed injury and didn't want ball as we broke. Nugent 6 scored and did ok but should do better in a couple of break aways near the end. King n/a not on long enough and not a fan, wasted space on bench for me. Everton 5 average - a fair comparison. Ref 7 thought he did ok. Pearson 6 back to stay due to lack of alternatives. Think I was angry after Villa when I voted go.
Dickov22 Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Can't believe all the Upson hate. People moan at Pearson for being reactionary but some of these ratings makes me think the same about peoples' opinion of Upson. He got outpaced by Aaron Lennon quite a lot. Lennon. Aaron Lennon. Not Paul Gallagher or Andy Reid. As for that own goal, I don't know what he could've done. Okay. Let's say he messed up there but looking at some of these ratings he's getting you'd assume he picked the ball up and threw it into the goal. It's the second full 90 minutes he's played for the first team. Bit early to write him off IMO It's not 'Upson hate' to suggest he had a bad game is it? Mahrez had a bad game too, doesn't mean either have been written off.
cjslcfc Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Can't remember what I actually gave each player. A few highlights though Cambiasso - MOTM Huth - solid Morgan - much improved. Being the right CB helped I think. James - really like this lad. Thought he was class again. Him and Cambiasso 'til the end of the season please. Vardy - Great impact. Much better as an impact player at the moment. Nugent - again we play better with him on the pitch Kramaric - felt sorry for him, worked so hard and is extremely good on the ball. Needs more support in the formation though. Hopefully Nige can work something out to get more with him while keeping the 3 CBs. Think we will play 3 CBs for the rest of the season now.
Dickov22 Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Can't remember what I actually gave each player. A few highlights though Cambiasso - MOTM Huth - solid Morgan - much improved. Being the right CB helped I think. James - really like this lad. Thought he was class again. Him and Cambiasso 'til the end of the season please. Vardy - Great impact. Much better as an impact player at the moment. Nugent - again we play better with him on the pitch Kramaric - felt sorry for him, worked so hard and is extremely good on the ball. Needs more support in the formation though. Hopefully Nige can work something out to get more with him while keeping the 3 CBs. Think we will play 3 CBs for the rest of the season now. I don't think we need 3. Upson felt to me like a waste of a position today. Would rather see that place go to an extra midfielder or someone to support Kramaric. You can tell we haven't played 3 very often; full backs and centre halves playing people onside all day today. Not their fault but they're not used to it
cjslcfc Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 I don't think we need 3. Upson felt to me like a waste of a position today. Would rather see that place go to an extra midfielder or someone to support Kramaric. You can tell we haven't played 3 very often; full backs and centre halves playing people onside all day today. Not their fault but they're not used to it I dunno I just feel a little more comfortable with 3. It has worked OK defensively as well. Maybe if we stuck Hammond in midfield and had Huth and Wasilewski I'd feel fine with that as well. Morgan had a good game today but think that's a result of him being on the right of a 3 as well. Just glad I'm not the manager!!
Guest Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Schwarzer 5 Simpson 4 Morgan 7 Huth 6 Upson 5 Konchesky 5 Mahrez 4 Schlupp 4 Cambiasso 9 James 6 Kramaric 6 Subs Nugent 7 Vardy 7 King N/A Pearson 5 Ref 4 Everton 5
ozleicester Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Schwarzer - 4 Slow from the line, looked off his game Simpson - 5 average game - nothing much either way Morgan - 6 better than recent, think having Huth helps him Upson - 5 average game - nothing much either way Huth - 7 - good solid game, think he makes a real difference to our back line Konchesky - 6 reasonable game worked hard Mahrez - 7 still scares defenders and creates, just needs to improve his decision making sometimes Cambiasso - 8 pure quality! James - 7 good effort, i think he has been our standout player this year who has stepped up ( i thought he would be behind DD) Schlupp - 6 worked hard, a little lakcing in quality and a little unlucky Kramaric - 8 great effort and positioning, big future Vardy - 7 couldnt have done much more, provided something extra for us Nugent - 8 - thats an impact substition and also held well at times. King - 5 short time, didnt really do anything right or wrong ..so ..average Everton - shouldve had at least 4, solid side but nothing special Us - 6 Probably the right result, but gutted after having the lead. Ref - 5 average game - nothing much either way
Swiss_tony Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Schwarzer 6 - solid Simpson 3 - not good enough, lightweight in the tackle and out of position a lot Huth 5 - see below Morgan 5 - see below Upson 5 - the back 3 were caught out on numerous occasions by simple balls through, everton players had loads of chances and acres of space in and around our box and only their profligacy prevented a cricket score, if you've got 3 CB's how is that possible, there should be no space and everyone should be tightly marked. Konchesky 2 - caught out of position so many times, gave the ball away. lennon/coleman had a field day down their right. garbage. James 7 - Very good did what he alwys does Cambiasso 9 - Class, best game for a while. Mahrez 3 - dribbled into no mans land, gave the ball away and passes did not reach their intended target. rightly subbed Schlupp 3 - as usual ran around a lot but had 3 chances in the first half that anybody with composure would've buried. 1 was blocked the other two worried people in row Z. Kramaric 8 - held the ball up well and brought others into the play, he's a class act. Nugent 7 - A tap in and put a shift in, if only he'd controlled that through ball and got the third. Vardy 8 - the cross for the first goal was the best one of the match, and his awareness of where cambiasso was for the second was great, schlupp would've just shot into row z from a tight angle King N/A pearson - 6 i don't like the formation but unlike the villa he had the brains to take off the two underperforming wide midfield players which changed the game. oh if only he'd done this last week.
Steve Earle Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Mostly 5s and 6s for me. Cambiasso (8) MOM. Huth, James and Vardy all 7s. Schlupp (4)'s lack of basic technical ability cost us again. And how Simpson(3)gets in the team ahead of RDL I'll never know, especially in this system. His shot in the first half came closer to providing them with an assist than it did to scoring for us. No getting away from it, we have some of the worst ball players in our team that this division has ever seen.
shen Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Schlupp 3 - as usual ran around a lot but had 3 chances in the first half that anybody with composure would've buried. 1 was blocked the other two worried people in row Z. Oh come on! The first chance was superbly controlled, he didn't exactly have time to pick his spot and it didn't go over by much. The blocked shot was just that, well blocked. Maybe a Kramaric would've made a dummy and shot, but it was a true strike. The missed chance at the start of the second half he was under pressure and tried to do the right thing, place it in the far corner. But you're right about him lacking technical ability and composure here. Funny you don't mention Kramaric's wayward shooting and give him a 3 or 4...
Fox Ulike Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 I don't think we need 3. Upson felt to me like a waste of a position today. Would rather see that place go to an extra midfielder or someone to support Kramaric. You can tell we haven't played 3 very often; full backs and centre halves playing people onside all day today. Not their fault but they're not used to it Agreed. Apart from head into his own net I didn't really sense a contribution from Upson. Huth was excellent. I think it's him who has made a significant difference to our defence, not the fact that we now have 3 defenders. Everton's midfielders constantly seemed to have time and space to ping dangerous balls into our box. it's this supply that we need to cut off by putting an extra body into Midfield. It's no good allowing them the space and then focussing on clearing the danger. Prevention is better than cure, and all that.
Dickov22 Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Agreed. Apart from head into his own net I didn't really sense a contribution from Upson. Huth was excellent. I think it's him who has made a significant difference to our defence, not the fact that we now have 3 defenders. Everton's midfielders constantly seemed to have time and space to ping dangerous balls into our box. it's this supply that we need to cut off by putting an extra body into Midfield. It's no good allowing them the space and then focussing on clearing the danger. Prevention is better than cure, and all that. The other significant contribution he made was getting completely bullied and outmuscled by Lukaku in the build up to Naismith's goal. It was pathetic. If we insist on this silly back 5, we need to at least play full backs who can get forward. I'd move Schlupp to wing back and play another striker with Kramaric if Pearson insists on 3 centre halves. De Laet surely deserves a go also.
Guest MattP Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Schwarzer 6 Simpson 4 Huth 8 Morgan 7 Upson 6 Konch 7 Schlupp 4 Cambi 9 James 8 Mahrez 5 Kramaric 6 Nugent 7 Vardy 8 King 6
cc_star Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 The other significant contribution he made was getting completely bullied and outmuscled by Lukaku in the build up to Naismith's goal. It was pathetic. If we insist on this silly back 5, we need to at least play full backs who can get forward. I'd move Schlupp to wing back and play another striker with Kramaric if Pearson insists on 3 centre halves. De Laet surely deserves a go also. Well that becomes a back 3... And looking at how bad they've been in a back 4 I dread to think how a back 3 would turn out... Couple with the lack of CDM I think dropping the back 5 for a back 3 would be suicide, as would reverting to the 4 which hasn't worked since the first few games But yes, I would change the personnel in RDL for Simpson
BrummieFOX Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Konchesky 2 - caught out of position so many times, gave the ball away. lennon/coleman had a field day down their right. garbage. I don't quite know what people expect of Konch, or any of our full backs. Everton didn't put 1 successful cross in from the right-hand side. He also blocked more crosses than anyone else.
Swiss_tony Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 I don't quite know what people expect of Konch, or any of our full backs. Everton didn't put 1 successful cross in from the right-hand side. He also blocked more crosses than anyone else. i expect competence in the position. Or a full back to not be running towards his own goal playing catchup with an opposition player over and over again. the classic yesterday was the ball over the top that caught him out completely. he looked around to see if anybody was there andwhen he realized lennon was in he stuck his hand up for offside. he's useless as a defender.
Swiss_tony Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Oh come on! The first chance was superbly controlled, he didn't exactly have time to pick his spot and it didn't go over by much. The blocked shot was just that, well blocked. Maybe a Kramaric would've made a dummy and shot, but it was a true strike. The missed chance at the start of the second half he was under pressure and tried to do the right thing, place it in the far corner. But you're right about him lacking technical ability and composure here. Funny you don't mention Kramaric's wayward shooting and give him a 3 or 4... kram had the ball, controlled it looked up and passed it to one of our players, like a good striker should do. the opposite of what schlupp does.the rating is for the all round play not just shooting. he didn't score but he's quality and if you can't see that you need your head examining.
BrummieFOX Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 i expect competence in the position. Or a full back to not be running towards his own goal playing catchup with an opposition player over and over again. the classic yesterday was the ball over the top that caught him out completely. he looked around to see if anybody was there andwhen he realized lennon was in he stuck his hand up for offside. he's useless as a defender. Useless is incredibly harsh. As a left back, for me his primary job is to prevent the right winger getting good crosses over. Everton didn't put one single successful cross in from Konchesky's side. Job done. Don't get me wrong, I think he could have easily been improved on in the transfer window but he is far from useless.
Swiss_tony Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Useless is incredibly harsh. As a left back, for me his primary job is to prevent the right winger getting good crosses over. Everton didn't put one single successful cross in from Konchesky's side. Job done. Don't get me wrong, I think he could have easily been improved on in the transfer window but he is far from useless. so is your definition of successful, simply that a goal comes from it? because i counted at least 6 crosses from his side that came in meaning the CB's had to deal with it which put extra pressure on the defence. if a winger puts 40 crosses in and the team doesn't score that means the fullback is doing his job? jesus h christ. a good fullback stops the crosses.
shen Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 kram had the ball, controlled it looked up and passed it to one of our players, like a good striker should do. the opposite of what schlupp does.the rating is for the all round play not just shooting. he didn't score but he's quality and if you can't see that you need your head examining. I'm not saying Kramaric doesn't look the business, but he was arguably LESS effective than Schlupp was yesterday. You can pretend all you want that Kramaric had a good game, but he really didn't.
Dickov22 Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 Well that becomes a back 3... And looking at how bad they've been in a back 4 I dread to think how a back 3 would turn out... Couple with the lack of CDM I think dropping the back 5 for a back 3 would be suicide, as would reverting to the 4 which hasn't worked since the first few games But yes, I would change the personnel in RDL for Simpson What I said was, if Pearson insists on playing a back 5 (eg 3 centre halves) I'd much rather he played his full backs/wingers as proper wing backs- Schlupp and De Laet.
Swiss_tony Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 I'm not saying Kramaric doesn't look the business, but he was arguably LESS effective than Schlupp was yesterday. You can pretend all you want that Kramaric had a good game, but he really didn't. you are joking. can't you see how kram links up play. holding up possession and bringing others into the game? when he's not scoring he's doing loads of other stuff, and doing it well. schlupp traps the ball further than i can kick it, he hasn't got a foootballing brain, and is more likely to hit the corner flag than the back of the net with a shot.
shen Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 you are joking. can't you see how kram links up play. holding up possession and bringing others into the game? when he's not scoring he's doing loads of other stuff, and doing it well. schlupp traps the ball further than i can kick it, he hasn't got a foootballing brain, and is more likely to hit the corner flag than the back of the net with a shot. Yes, I'm joking. What I meant was, Kramaric was bleeding awesome. He caused Everton all sorts of problems and didn't miss two decent chances.
Dickov22 Posted 23 February 2015 Posted 23 February 2015 I'm not saying Kramaric doesn't look the business, but he was arguably LESS effective than Schlupp was yesterday. You can pretend all you want that Kramaric had a good game, but he really didn't. He had a really good game. Especially considering he was hung out to dry upfront on his own! Did well
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