old koppite

That one chance we had 2nd half where FB over hit the pass to JA just summed us up. A confident FB would have probably took a shot himself, but in trying too hard over hit the pass.

So in your pro sport experience how wound you handle it? The whole world can see that HW has been poor for months, and that potentially he appears to be a much better player than he is showing. RVN played at the very highest level, no one can deny, in 1 of the best MU teams under the best MU manager. However, you make a wild assumption about him being an egoistic bully- how do you know anything about him? He’s a poor manager/ coach and we have a crap team and supporters. That doesn’t automatically mean he’s another BR self interest fantasist. All I can judge him on is his pressers, which I think he handles very well , and the crap results . Personally I think he should be sacked now for the disastrous run , and struggle on with AK and the coaches until end of season with a change in approach of trying to at least score some goals.

Ruud is the current manager, so entirely up to him. He sees the players every day and believes he/the club could get more out of HW if he stays over for 1 night. It’s clear to us of us that HW isn’t match fit or can’t be bothered to put in max effort ( remember the embarrassing slating he got from Robbie S at WHU away). Plus at the moment the team is really bad and underperforming. In the past we were winning and successful.

Bloody hell that’s so depressing. Also very reckless, and potentially dangerous.

“Suuupah Suupah Steve …..” sang with passion- heard it in the toilets in old Wembley Way before the play off final and after on the way back to the station - sends a shiver!

Loved it first time I heard his song sung with Lestah accents!

I thought all crap tonight ( well at least Mav put some energy in for a bit) but really disappointed in BK and FB; really off form. Vesty for the first goal rightly crucified by TNT, and the Winks recovery jog in 2nd half were particularly low points.

Glad I didn’t go

Completely agree. Horrible feeling like this , ain’t it.

I’m thinking of going … but then sensible head is saying why bother - just watch at home and avoid the misery of getting home at 1 am

What really frustrates mean is that there is rarely a sudden burst of energy with real intent , like the JV effort in the 1st half when he made their CB look stupid, and the FB dribble and run on second half.

I’ve thought that too. There was a home game this season , can’t remember the team, where they came out early and did little mini passing drills. Makes sense to me to get the players right on it from kick off

It feels like it doesn’t it. In those Seagrave clips we mostly see the quick passing drills on a mini pitch with normal sized goals. From last night we need back to basic how to legally fight and win 2nd ball battles and be stronger when defending

Manager confidence - ouch! why do we give away so many soft goals.

I wonder if players are over coached, or playing in fear and within themselves, desperate not to make a mistake. Your example of Vesty is spot on- at least Mav could try to run at their defence , just mix it up a bit , keeping the defender guessing. At times Mav shows he had the pace . That dribble from FB 2nd half was exciting and about the only moment to get the crowd going.

So soft on all 4 goals

No, me too except whilst I think it’s better than Cooper I wouldn’t say much better. We just can’t keep focused for all the 90 minutes plus injury time. You can hear his frustration at that after every game. I think people are right about yesterday in that he should have brought subs on earlier - I believe there was a better chance of a draw if he had.

Agree completely. When I played amateur footy many years ago, I’d have still put that extra effort in no matter how knackered I was, knowing there was the possibility the ball might reach the oppo.

Just watched the goals again. As someone else has said, why didn’t VK push himself to make up the ground for their 2nd. He might have been knackered, but as a pro he should have had enough in the tank to make up the few yards- he had time to do it. That and Faes for their 1st so bloody frustrating

I see what you mean, but I was just pleased we were still in the game for 80 minutes, and we’d made some good chances. Almost a tap in second half for BDCR , so it wasn’t just about their motm hitting woodwork twice. we can’t go toe to toe anymore. Same at Man U, we have to defend for our lives , soak pressure, and try to grind out results .

Ah, we all have different views. I was pleased with the 1st half. We defended very well, looked solid and had some nice passing phases, with the 2 Wilf efforts. If Ayew had been a bit more alert in the 1st minute we might have scored. So if Faes had not lost his man , again, for their 1st , and we didn’t need to chase an equaliser to concede the 2nd, you’d have been fed up with a draw and people praising a great defensive performance ?

Different linesman first half? or don’t they swap anymore - I dunno !

Yes, he was poor- just didn’t seem to get going at all

Ha ha! That hurt. You just keep calling players as crap, and if they score, that’ll be great . 👍

Aged well