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Betfair giving odds of 20/1 for over 8.5 goals. Worth £10 if Ward is in.

Who are the other 3 that are good enough? Because I'd argue Mads, Vardy, Bilal and Buonanotte are good enough. Splitting hairs I know but credit where it's due.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him recall Cannon in January and send Edouard back. Doing well and I can't imagine he'd be worse than Daka. Fully expect to see Vestergaard back in the mix somewhere. Really excited to see his first team sheet and who he'll try to sign in January.

Oh I wasn't suggesting dropping winks because I think he's a poor player. I think he's a very good player. I just think having a three man midfield of Winks, Skipp and Ndidi isn't attacking enough. My own opinion is in previous games is that Skipp and Ndidi have performed better so unfortunately you drop Winks for an attacking midfielder.

He'll get that fully when Ricardo is back in his rightful place. Credit for dropping winks, credit for the subs, credit for giving Bilal game time but we need that final piece so we can at the very least say we've started our strongest 11.

I never heard anything about that but I've just looked now. On BBC there's two paragraphs saying he was charged and then there's nothing else on the topic, said he's a free agent looking for a club. It's all very strange, can't imagine the police would say it and BBC would report it yet he's still out and about.

I'm curious as to why nobody has picked up Ben Yedder. Free, probably willing to take a cut at his age, new league and could probably score well into double figures.

I suspect Soumare will go far far away when the loan window opens.

Because there's a small percentage of us hoping and praying he's turned down Forest for us just so we can piss the forest fans off.

Not to be that guy, but how many players have we agreed deals with and Rudkin manages to screw it up. I can think of 2 that's given me sleepless nights.

Villa are a top 6 side now and have threats all over the pitch, they'll beat us.

You forgot the 3 year contract on 100k a week! How careless of you.

Not in the team tonight, not listed as injured either.

You mean the part about having to buy him for 30m if they stay up and he could turn out to be terrible? Kind of makes Rudkin look ever so slightly better.

It's just settling and I as a fan wouldn't settle. Who does he replace, Reid? Because if he replaces Vardy or Fatawa or even the Argentine, it makes us weaker. If we're paying 6m plus extras, I'd rather pay that and a little more on Zaha for a year. It's a joke, I don't rate Daka all to much but he's miles better than this guy. No doubt it'll be 3 years as well. And what about Cannon, there's a decent no nonsense player in there who doesn't piss about with the ball and actually tries to score.

You know what, when we were linked with all these so called top players for a moment it felt like we were back in 2016-2019, (may have got my years wrong), but me personally have been brought straight back down to earth and now players like Longstaff who we were linked with sound like a pipe dream. I'd take Wood back in a heart beat. I'd love Hamer in midfield, or Kel to have signed a new contract. Hell, I'd even take Moder because that now sounds the more attractive deal. We have some good players but we'll be making history, lowest goals scored, lowest points, longest winless run, we have some good players but it's just not gonna happen. We're now weaker that last season.

And in our experience the players making the step up or so called unknown players are the ones who seem to do better.

He's scored 3 in 2 so far, so a good start. I think this would be a signing less based on resale value and more helping us stay up. I don't think for a second we're in for him though.

Let's be honest, that's a mid-table attack force right there. Add in Winks and Ndidi as center mid and defensive mid I'd be pretty pleased with that.

I'll like you're comment to get you into double figures. I think a lot of people care because we're never going to be any better of a situation if we were to just keep loaning players that we can't keep. For example, would you not be a little frustrated if Fatawa was no option/no obligation. He'd be more than 14.5 million and we'd be stuck with Bobby Reid.

Spot on, and if we stay up and this player ends up a baller, he could end up being worth 30m+ rather than 15m if we have the option right now. We all know Rudkin would be stupid enough to blow our budget in such a situation.

With how much game time and captaincy Coady has had in preseason, I think he starts next to Faes, I don't think Okali is a Cooper signing so it makes sense.

I think he's saying it's either Southampton OR Italy, although I'm starting to think this is your attempt at sarcasm.

I get the feeling that we'll spend big this season to see us through the financial period with 1 or 2 improvements over the next 2 years.

Juventus being the team that has had Villas pants down with the Douglas Luiz deal so I can't seeing this being the easiest of deals.