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Did you take that from my twitter? Same picture as well

Especially after we just gave a League One-level manager a chance... Challinor does seem to be a good manager tbf - but that's the sort of step-up you'd only give somebody with a full summer and pre-season (and even then, probably a Championship team first). Midway through a struggling Prem season you need somebody who has experienced top flight pressure and can command respect from the start. Ruud van Nistelrooy spent 15 years at the very top as a player, 10 years as a coach and now a couple of years as a manager. Even forgetting their careers, winning the Dutch cup and being assistant manager for World Cup semi finalists is better preparation for joining a Premier league team mid-season than winning the Conference and League Two.

Yep I'd imagine that's what it is, plus the usual legal stuff. Didn't all the coaching staff leave with Cooper? Club website only lists three active coaches Ben Dawson First Team Coach Andrew Hughes First Team Set Piece Coach Danny Alcock Goalkeeping Coach

Lots of failures for sure, but Laurent Blanc, Michael Carrick and Mark Robins have done OK. Obviously a bygone era and they're laughing stocks now, but Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce both spent about 15 years managing at various teams in the top flight.

I've wondered if Cooper had a break clause after 15 games. Or maybe as bad as they were, it might not have been match performances that got Cooper the boot. (Alternatively, we're a shambles with no strategy or plan... probably the most likely option!).

Tbf they probably thought we were heading for a 15 point deduction and a transfer embargo. In those circumstances, it makes sense to bring in a worse, cheaper option. Hopefully we hired him with plenty of release clauses in case we wriggled out of the punishment...

Oscar Garcia left Leuvren two days before Cooper got sacked...

1. Ranieri 2. Pearson 3. Rodgers 4. Maresca 5. Puel 6. Sven 7. Shakespeare 8. Smith 9. Sousa 10. Cooper Edit: actually I'll put Rodgers ahead of Maresca. Ended terribly but won us the Cup tbf

Sorry if this has already been covered! Have any players posted anything on social media? Could be they've been asked not to and they'll all just post similar messages in a few days. But you'd have thought somebody would have posted something by now... unless they all hated him!

Steve Cooper has exactly the same credentials. Carsley (or indeed Copper) would be good appointments in the summer before a Championship season. Not so much halfway through a Prem season that's started badly.

Moyes is the obvious candidate. Bags of experience, has done well at similar sized clubs. When it goes well for him he stays for a decent stint which is what we need.

Nice guy but it never worked out for him here. I thought he'd be decent as well. Forest supporting family members spoke of him so highly. Ah well, I called that one wrong. Onto the next one!

Who cares? Yes the team has been poor recently, but remember that in 2024 they also won the league. They fully deserve a Christmas party, and I'm sure this was planned ages ago. The sign is a bit regrettable but at the same time they'd just seen a well liked former colleague that day. I wouldn't read into it more than that.

Kramaric has played in a World Cup final TBF. Jonny Evans won the FA Cup. Tielemans and Barnes have played Champion's League, Maddison won a Prem player of the month. Bet none regretted missing the away day to Plymouth last season...!

If they'll take it, Moyes or Potter. If not, Mark Robins. Or even Nigel Pearson til the end of the season would be preferable...!

I liked the appointment and thought Cooper would do well here. Forest fans on my wife's side of the family loved him - very much their Nigel Pearson (who I think the world of). I also really don't like changing managers regularly. You can never know how a new guy will work out, and I've seen plenty of managers written off as flops come good here. Sadly even I've now lost faith in Cooper. The team is soulless. He seems to have no tactics or vision - and it seems like he's taking the club backwards. With no points deduction we could have brought in somebody far better, and probably still could. And if we go down, we'll inherit a massive points deduction from the EFL. I hate to say it, but the board should cut ties with Cooper before he leads us to a decade (plus) of regret.

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A fortnight is a long time in football I've never taken to Faes. Far too many mistakes and seems to have a bad attitude get him gone asap. Mad to think we went from Wes Fofana to Wout Faes in one transfer window

Superb win. When the fixtures came out this was one of the runs of games I thought we need to pick up wins in. Because equally, there are full months where we could get no points. (h) Bournemouth WIN (a) Southampton WIN (h) Forest (a) Ipswich We definitely rode our luck against Bournemouth and from the highlights today was a ding-dong that could have ended 5-5. But you can't argue with the results. Now for 4/6 points from the next two games, please!

Excellent performance yesterday, looks a good player.

I'm biased as a friend's dad is a youth scout for the club, but I don't think this is fair. In recent years we've given plenty of opportunities to develop genuine talents (Barnes, Chilwell and KDH) and chances to those who really aren't that good (Thomas, Choudhury, McAteer). Historically our academy seems to have produced a disproportionate amount of good players. Plenty have gone on to have strong top flight careers (eg Heskey, Schlupp, King). I think we have just broken a record of something like 175 successive games featuring a home-grown player. Hopefully Alves gets a chance to start creating a new streak soon!

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I dunno, Villa and Spurs are both good teams (4th and 5th last season). Palace and Fulham both tricky places to go. Not beating Everton at home (and not really looking likely to) is clearly poor though.

Hard to win a game when you're unemployed tbf

I'm fully behind Cooper and find much of the criticism towards him completely over the top, but his complaining about the Palace goal is just embarrassing. I understand creating a siege mentality within a club, but this is more of a whingeing culture and will just make referees / the FA dislike us even more.