honeybradger

Happy about the transfer news, worried about Faes's safety as a human being. He might genuinely get executed if he has a game like that Liverpool one for them.

Not Nelson!

Selling him for £10mil is as good as a new signing to be honest. Let's not get our hopes up though.

You ok mate? This is good business for us, Mcateer wasnt doing much for us anyway. If we had turned down that bid most of the fanbase would rightly been up in arms.

Given the state of our squad hopefully not lol.

Ipswich fans saying he cant be any worse than Jack Clarke and Philogene. I remember our fans were raving over them not too long ago.

Hopefully he does well. Good lad who deserves to have a good career. It was the right time for us to part ways though it feels like.

Potentially choudhury and Justin as well.

Great deal for us, hopefully we dont spend it on rubbish.

There are loads of midfielders who are just as good on the ball as Winks (or even better honestly) that are also solid defensively that are also available for £5mil or less. He is seriously not special in any way, there is a reason clubs aren't rushing to sign him despite clearly wanting out. Pelle Mattson Otto rosingren Yacine Titraoui Winks is seriously mediocre in comparison to the best on the market across the European leagues and is incredibly overrated by our fanbase. Attitude problems or not we should get him out and bring someone better in. The question is not whether we can replace Winks with better, the question is whether we will be able to find a buyer for Winks because no one actually wants him. (Also whether Rudkin would be able to identify a better replacement).

Yh wingback is probably his best position. He would be better off being the extra man on the wing as well being able to make runs into the box rather than being expect to take his man on.

Kone has scored 1 league goal since January. We might be willing to spend money on someone who's more clearly worth it.

Yes Winks looks good in comparison to Skipp and Soumare but if you compare him to what's available on the market for what we would sell him for (£5mil) he's not up to par.

There are midfielders available for reasonable fees who can pass and protect the backline at the same time. It's not like these two traits are exclusive.

What an offensive thing to call someone! Im not BCDR's dad and cant stand Skipp and Ayew but I do think midfielders should help to protect the backline.

He doesn't tackle, he doesnt win the ball back, he doesnt run, doesnt carry the ball well, isnt a goal threat, isnt good in the air. All he is good at is passing and he's not exceptional at it either. He also has a tendency to give the ball to the opposition in dangerous positions. He's very limited im sorry to say, he was good for a period under Maresca but we need better rounded midfielders than him going forwards. Bad attitude or not his ability simply does not justify his wages.

Albrighton when he was commentating one of our pre season matches.

It's been mentioned that windiness around the training pitches at Seagrave means it's hard to train set pieces. Would explain a lot considering our awful run around the time we moved in.

If we sell Mcateer maybe we can offset the loss of a player who gives a shit by selling one or two of Wink, Faes, Soumare etc.

Selling him would be good business but he doesnt deserve the mocking he's getting on here. He's done well to establish himself as a championship player, scored a goal at PL level and surprised a lot of us. Maybe he will surprise us again, although it is best that he gets a fresh start elsewhere for his sake and ours.

I would tend to agree with you about the 'step up' being a struggle if our first team strikers in Ayew and Daka weren't so woeful. It's not like he has a high bar to reach in order to be the best striker at the club. Daka is a poor finisher, Ayew has poor decision making. It was fine margins between Evans having a good pre season and him struggling, if Daka had finished that cross and if Ayew had squared it while in space we would be talking differently around him. I think if we gave Evans the same minutes that Daka and Ayew receive then he would do better for us in those minutes.

I thought he looked surprisingly good in the friendlies. It's his loans that have put him out of favour.

I seem to remember Savinho having a run of form at left wing with Man City last season. They might go in for him for his ability to beat a man and put a cross in from the left.

All talk. Rodgers was the manager who oversaw and built that culture shift, he set the tone by holding the club at gunpoint midway through a top 4 push for a lucrative contract. The players just followed his lead. He was at the club 3 years before that Forest game and we didn't have that culture problem before him. In the relegation season instead of knuckling down and trying his best he started making weird team selection and substitution choices to try and prove a point to the board. The one that stands out is the first game of the season against Brentford in 30 degree heat when he only used two substitutions and had us draw from 2-0 up. I still think if he hadn't cost us the win that game we start the season more positively and finish midtable. Rodgers was the one who kept starting Danny Ward instead of Iversen as well. Rodgers was the one who spent the summer of 2021 calling up Vestergaard. He also admired Bertrand for many years. Rodgers was the one who insisted we hold onto our best players each summer instead of selling and reinvesting to refresh the squad. There are so so many more examples of Rodgers being one of the architects of the downfall of our club alongside Rudkin and Top, not a victim of them. He joined us with a short term mentality and an aim to get a top 6 job which never came. That lack of long term planning under his leadership was clear long before the Forest game, those comments were just of a man trying to save himself from a sinking ship that he himself had steered into an iceberg long ago.

Yh I had a look to see if Siltanen had been mentioned before and saw your post which was excellent BTW. Of the ones you mentioned i like Hjerto Dahl as well. Really I think they would all be an upgrade on what we have currently in centre midfield. I think youre underrating Siltanen's physicality a bit, he has a very good tackling technique and uses his body well to put the opponents off balance to take the ball from them. Kind of similar to Kante it's not about the frame but how the player uses it and the determination the player has. Siltanen does seem to go over a bit too easily when getting tackled and is also very short so in some ways I do agree regarding physicality.