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He's also not very good though. You are right though, if we are going to block off Alves and Baybrooke's path to the first team then we may as well release them, they arent going to be signing new contracts if they are not valued. This transfer is not only -KDH + Moder but also likely -Alves as well, truly terrible.

Romano was wrong about Potter. Lets hope that he's wrong about Moder, it's like our club have identified the perfect Dennis Praet replacement. Injury prone, low impact player who will be on the bench for the length of his contract.

Isn't the issue with us that we don't sell players at all? It's either a decent sale like Fofana or Chilwell or we turn down good offers like Soumare and Iversen.

Swansea fans seem to like him fairly well, obviously there are a few that dont. He's arguably England's best ever youth coach due to the world cup win and many of the players in the u17 win seem to still have a strong relationship with him after all these years such as Guehi, Foden etc.

Why sign a 20 year old who is struggling to perform in the Belgian league when we could give Baybrooke a go instead? Both of them would be a risk but because one is not already at the club he is seen as more valuable and more ready for the PL.

The same Joel Piroe that many Leeds fans consider to be the biggest flop of the season? No chance he's ready for PL football, needs at least 2-3 seasons in the championship to reach that level, if he ever even gets there.

Think he's talking about Cooper.

We didn't just lose, we got destroyed.

I genuinely think Mavidi, Vardy and Fatawu will be a lethal front three in the PL in a more counter attacking team. Whenever we played a more open team Mavididi in particular would go up a gear. Towards the end of Forest's first season in the PL Cooper had Forest playing some decent counter attacking football and they got decent results off some tough fixtures.

It's not just his position, he looks a different player technically now. At Leicester he never looked fully in control when he dribbled and was rarely able to take players on whereas now the ball looks like it's glued to his feet. Something has to be wrong with our coaching for there to have been this big of a transformation in only a season away.

He was playing like Ronaldinho 😂. Where was that Ayoze Perez when he played for us?

Not like we benefited from that hot young talent tbf. All our best players are still at the club this season and we have Will Alves, Baybrooked and Nelson breaking through who will progress massively under Cooper. Remember Cooper made Rian Brewster look like a 20 mil player from his time in the u17s and at Swansea.

Maybe Bologna actually arent skimming us but are simply offering what his real value as a player is.

That's the championship though isnt it. If we're comparing like for like Cooper walked into a Forest that had won 1 and drawn 1 in their last 8 games to start the season, then proceeded to win 22 draw 11 and lose 6 in the next 38 games which is similar to Maresca's championship record with a far worse squad. At the end of the day a lot of the gloss that gives managers their reputations comes from the players at their disposal compared to the quality of the opposition players. Ranieri was woeful at Watford yet give him prime Vardy, Kante and Mahrez and you can get 80 points. As far as I'm concerned Graham Potter having a 32% win rate with Chelsea is far worse than Cooper having a 22% win rate with Forest. If you look at that Forest squad a 38 point season is not far off the best you would expect from them.

Potter had the backing of Brighton who are a well run club. Cooper had the backing of Forest and their crackpot owner. Potter had multiple elite level players at his disposal, world cup winner McAllister, PL record transfer Caicedo, Pascal Gross, Lewis Dunk, Ben White, Lamptey, Cucurella, Lallana, Trossard etc just to finish 15th, 16th and 9th. Cooper had Morgan Gibbs White and Brennan Johnson, otherwise he had a load of players who arent good enough to get decent results with.

I have a feeling a lot of people our going to get mud on their face when he turns out to be a decent manager for us.

O'hare, Dwomoh and Gabriel Pereira as our signings would probably give me a bigger meltdown than everyone freaking out over Cooper.

This, I would have preferred Corberan but I am just happy that we haven't signed Potter, AKA Brendan Rodgers V2. Potter would have most likely been an unmitigated disaster for the club considering he would join us with one foot out of the door already.

Forest are nowhere near as bad as they were when Cooper came in. When Cooper joined Forest were bottom of the Championship, two year later and he had got them promoted and kept them up in the PL. Pete Taylor on the other hand had only ever managed in league one before us. Potter turning Brighton into a side 'that can challenge in the top half' after 3 seasons isn't as much of an achievement as you think it is, especially as he had world cup winner Mcallister and English record transfer fee Caicedo in his ranks among other top players. Soon after he turned Chelsea into a side competing in the bottom half so interpret that as you will.

He got 38 points, that keeps you up most seasons. The narrative around Cooper and Potter is so strange to me, Potter had Brighton with a similar win rate to Cooper for most of his tenure and managed to improve towards the end. How has Potter managed to convince the footballing world that he's a top class manager whilst Cooper, who has an impressive resume, is seen as a chancer?

I dont understand some posters on here. Many of them were as sick as I was of how Rodgers treated the club yet they desperately want Potter who has turned the club down multiple times now. Potter doesnt have a significantly better CV than Cooper, he plays slow, safe, uninspiring football and he's pompous and arrogant. Moving on from Potter and going for Cooper is one of the better decisions this club have made in recent memory.

Potter had a couple months of European level form with European level players (Caicedo, Mcallister) followed by a failed move to Chelsea and that's enough to make our fans think he is the second coming. We would do well to listen to Brighton and Chelsea fans when they say he is not all that he is made out to be.

The way Forest spent the money arguably made the squad worse to manage than when they were in the championship. How are you supposed to manage a squad when you have 40 players?

Potter's win ratio for Brighton in his first 2 seasons was 24%, it only started to get better in his 3rd season in the PL. Yet for some reason our fans are creaming themselves over Potter. For me staying up in the PL with that disaster of a squad he had at Forest was an achievement and not something to bash him with.

Can someone please explain what people dont like about Cooper other than he is unnactractive and an ex Forest manager? He took Forest from the bottom of the championship to staying up in the PL and he battered us and Arsenal in the FA cup along the way. Under ownership that doesnt buy 30 players a season I can see him being a good manager for us. If he can get us playing the same way Forest were when they beat us 4-1 we'll be laughing.