martyn

He reeks of Rodgers.

Quality shocking, work rate, attitude and organisation spot on. Hopefully we support Cifuentes with additions in key areas.

Agree, although I'm wrestling with myself as to whether he actually had an objectively ok half, or he was just better than the lowest of low bars he's set.

Okoli is such a terrible footballer.

If I had a pound for every time I get annoyed seeing someone say Thomas is "fine" at this level, I'd have several pounds

We're mid table at best unless 4 or 5 signings come in and hit the ground running. Yes it's 3 points, but over the course of 46 games playing like that will find us out eventually.

Soumare is the master of that pointless stud roll

Okoli is crap

Stupendous deal for us. Build Rudkin the statue. I like McAteer, his effort and application can never be questioned and he seems a likeable chap, but as a footballer he is incredibly limited. Aside from his work rate, energy and occasional ability to pop up in goalscoring positions, I can't think of anything in his game which is even championship standard. But maybe McKenna can make it work in a particular system. The biggest concern with losing a player like McAteer is just for losing a good squad "glue" guy. As a footballer we can do much better.

Especially when moving laterally, or backpedalling. Wingers could step inside or outside of him so easily.

Thomas reverting to type after fooling us ull with 2 or 3 mediocre games at the end of last season.

Sums McAteer's night up.

Taking Nelson off here will do him more harm than good.

Likeable club with great, long suffering fans. Hope things unfold positively for them.

Norwich have been incredibly unimpressive. Millwall are a decent outfit under Alex Neil but expected more from Norwich given that they seem to be fancied.

Norwich have been unimpressive, but this Millwall line up is quite different. Only 3 of the 11 that beat us at the den are starting today.

2nd pen Southampton should have been given

That is way more of a penalty than last night's.

I'll go against the grain and say Moore is much more mobile than people give him credit for. He's an excellent signing for Wrexham.

Penalty should have been retaken as well by the looks of it..Ashley Young was in the box

I'll never agree with something like that being a penalty

If we have to sell him because the price is right then fair enough. Against the backdrop that we're expecting to be challenging at the top end of the table, I disagree with the assertion that we'd be fine because we have Ayew/Monga/Alves/others who can "fill in". If you continually chip away at the quality of your first 11, then the team will eventually suffer. BEK is a better option in his position right now than all of the above. Same with Hermansen and Stolarczyk. Stolarczyk will be "fine" at this level, but Mads is a level above and a difference maker over the course of a season relative to the competition. It's a different conversation if our fanbase can accept a period of consolidation, and reduce expectations in the event we start blooding more youth and spending less money. But given how much we've been spoiled over the last 10 years, can we do that?

Fair point on Cook's record in Australia for the Lions. Still don't think they'll take him as he doesn't fit the "profile". This England would take Olly Stone having not played any cricket in a year.

This cycle has been about preparing for the Ashes, they've made that clear. Sam Cook is a very good bowler, but he's the archetypal county military medium seamer. He'd be a Woakes type in Australia but 2mph slower and without the batting. Crawley is a safer selection than Pope for me, especially as he has a decent record against both Australia and against 85mph+ bowlers. Watching Ollie Pope bat is stressful and I'd absolutely be in favour of replacing him, but they won't do it now. I hope I'm proved wrong but for me he's a modern day Hick/Ramprakash type, can take county attacks apart but gets exposed at test level.

The point about averages doesn't take into account conditions. Yes, English pitches have flattened out a bit over the years, but it's generally one of the tougher places to be able to consistently make big runs. Several world class players have averages in England below their means. The issue with this side is less the batting as a unit (taking individuals out of the equation), and i'd be pretty confident asserting the "Bazball" approach has gained us better results than the alternative with this set of players, but more the lack of penetration in the bowling. A world class spinner would make a world of difference.