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The only realistic hope for Hamza doing anything useful this season is to wreck some Liverpool player on boxing day (preferably Jota).

A St. Feuillien Brune and a Fullers London Porter from M&S Xmas shopping trip earlier.

Not sure about Man Utd!

If we get a whole new defence in January and we might have a glimmer of hope

Think that's the whole point.

Stressful but happy end to my Europa acca tonight. Anderlecht and HJK both concede injury time goals to 10 men, only for VAR to rule them both out. Happy days!

Barely having enough time to walk across at a traffic lights because cars from both sides going straight through on red so ridiculously late.

I lost my rag more at that than the predictable injury time goal. The term 'bad' touch didn't even do it justice.

Didn't get to see the game, how long should it have been?

Years of it, never ends.

Go on Bournemouth again! Hahhaaaa

Go on Bournemouth!

Crazy that Villa are the first to make proper changes, so predictable it finishes the game.

They lose an awful lot these days but no less amusing.

What happened? A Vardy/Nasri type thing?

Yep, I'd take hitting 20 points and avoiding humiliation.

German beer day. Weihenstephaner Vitus Schneider Weisse Aventinus Kloster Andechs Weissbier Hell Tucher Bajuvator Dopplebock Should sleep well tonight.

Might be wrong but have a vague memory of 96/97 pre season being really poor after the playoff win (losses to Torquay, Rotherham etc? ) but then finished top half in PL and won the League Cup. I remember O'Neil joking that preseason no journo was brave enough to predict us as high as 19th.

Gadds Black Pearl Oyster stout.

Germany and Portugal both out, what a great day!

Look who's reffing.