truebluethroughandthrough Posted 24 April 2015 Posted 24 April 2015 "word on the street" Ok m8 now you're gonna tell us a big bird told you, it's bloody sesame street ain't it? Only street I'm interested in is equality street.... Gwaaaaan
shailen Posted 24 April 2015 Posted 24 April 2015 Pearson is coming in next year to play alongside Wes and roll back the years.
ADK Posted 24 April 2015 Posted 24 April 2015 I'd actually be quite happy if this happened but I don't know if Nige would want it and that would mean Rudkin leaving who has only just been given the role.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 some would argue he hasn't taken it well Lots have, but they are very idiot.
Leeds Fox Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Would it not essentially mean that Cambiasso, alongside Nige's current assistant(s) would take the training sessions, and Nige would be in charge of signings, picking the squad/team and be on match days what people perceive as the manager. Giving the team talks, making substitutions, changing tactics and setting out the tactics prior to kick off. Basically splitting the managers role into two? Many 'managers' already take a back seat and rarely get involved with training sessions, yet still have the role of manager. We had an issue with recruiting last season, which is something that in the past hasn't been a problem, with Nige and his scouts regularly making good value signings, and being able to draw in the players they want. This would solve that, and allow Nige to take care of this, and also take the main responsibilities of a manager. Let's face it, he's not just coming in, taking a back seat and picking the team of who he knows nothing about. He knows the players, and obviously trusts Cambi to take the coaching on, being the link between the squad and Nige. I don't really see how this is negative. We keep the manager most of us want, probably make the signings we want unlike this season, keep Cambiasso's experience and positive impact he has over the players and keep the motivator, man manager, book balancer, who the players all respect and play their hearts out for, who dragged us from League 1 to the brink of Premier League survival.
ElusiveEd Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Maybe, just maybe, it could even be NP's decision As mentioned above, he has health issues and this has to have been the most stressful time of his managerial career and maybe a "Back seat" job in a managerial role could serve him/club well? He's been a great servant to the club so why not keep his services and offer him a secure role with Esteban and all his experience taking the role of team coach/player manager etc? I'm not even sure NP has ever looked comfortable being a Prem manager, especially as the season has gone on. Maybe, that was what was agreed when he was re-instated as manager after being sacked? Get us to the end of the season then restructure/ shuffle the management and coaching roles and still be involved in the day to day team stuff without the stress of what his role entails now and at the same time Esteban gets his experience with working alongside NP. Extremely cost effective, no pay offs, no searching/recruiting a new manager and it keeps a squad together who are all used to working alongside each other. I'd be all over that to be honest but, as said in above posts, it's probably all BS and I'm just wishful thinking. Whatever happens we simply HAVE to keep the services of Esteban.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Sounds to me what this 'backseat jobl' you two have described entails being a football manager and appointing Cambiasso as a coach.
Leeds Fox Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Sounds to me what this 'backseat jobl' you two have described entails being a football manager and appointing Cambiasso as a coach.Yes, but a traditional (how I see it, although I could be wrong) football manager oversees all aspects of coaching, and taking care of transfers. How I imagine it was in the 90's, I always imagined People like O'Neill ran the club this way, and it's how I see Howe working at Bournemouth. A football manager has always taken the roles of coach and DoF. It's only relatively recently that the role DoF has come about and allowed a split of responsibilities. If what this bloke has tweeted is true, and next season someone asks, 'Oh so who's the Leicester manager then?' You'd say Pearson wouldn't you? Because yes I agree I he still would be, but the 'backseat' job would be more of a hands off approach of the day to day running of the squad. If it's true, I imagine it's just a minor reshuffle to persuade Cambiasso to stay. Giving him a more senior role than just a member of the coaching staff. He's obviously had a positive impact on the squad, it would be foolish not to try and slot him in.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 It's not entirely impossible but absolutely implausible.
Leeds Fox Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 It's not entirely impossible but absolutely implausible. Can you explain why it's implausible? I'm not disagreeing (a lot of people on here seem to take offence when asked to expand on their opinion). I'm just curious as to why you think that.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Nigel Pearson signed a 3 year deal, he's achieved great things with the club, keeping us up would be his best achievement so far, 5+ years of graft creating something meaningful and we'd shove him upstairs and hand the reigns over to somebody who has absolutely zero experience in management? No matter how good a player or how motivational a player you think he is (I do too) would be absolute lunacy and simply a risk that doesn't need taking, it's not like Monk at Swansea or Giggs at United, they've been/ are being groomed for the job for a long time. I just don't see any legs in the tweet at all, it is just a tweet by a cricketer.
Steven Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 I'm sure his health his fine. There is no way he could have taken the stress he's probably been under otherwise. ... not dealt with particularly well in so many ways.
Guest Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Would imagine this is an account of a city supporter with an alternative agenda.
Leeds Fox Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Nigel Pearson signed a 3 year deal, he's achieved great things with the club, keeping us up would be his best achievement so far, 5+ years of graft creating something meaningful and we'd shove him upstairs and hand the reigns over to somebody who has absolutely zero experience in management? No matter how good a player or how motivational a player you think he is (I do too) would be absolute lunacy and simply a risk that doesn't need taking, it's not like Monk at Swansea or Giggs at United, they've been/ are being groomed for the job for a long time. I just don't see any legs in the tweet at all, it is just a tweet by a cricketer.I agree with everything you said there. The thing is though, he hasn't got any managerial experience, true. But he's not going into a managerial role. It suggests he's going to be Head Coach, not the manager. I don't for a second think Pearson would just go upstairs, but having a dedicated head coach allows his to spend some of his time doing other things, things we've not done this season. I imagine he'll be on the training ground a lot, however when it comes to the weeks leading up to the transfer windows, he can sort all the signings out in good time, and allow the squad to train without any disruption of their usual procedure.Edit: The reigns would not be handed over, that wouldn't be the case whatsoever. Also, I think NP and maybe the owners may have realised that being a manager in the Premier League is much more demanding than in the Championship, NP may even feel like he's struggled this year and may need extra help next season, hence the reshuffle.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Yeah, so Cambiasso would be a coach and Pearson would be a manager. Do you think on deadline day if a player needs meeting to be convinced to sign but there's some shooting practice needs doing as well, Pearson would stay and take a shooting practice session while Kevin Phillips watched and we didn't sign the player? Point being I'm sure Pearson already doesn't handle all aspects of management or training/coaching, he'll delegate like all managers do when necessary.
Leeds Fox Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Yeah, so Cambiasso would be a coach and Pearson would be a manager. Do you think on deadline day if a player needs meeting to be convinced to sign but there's some shooting practice needs doing as well, Pearson would stay and take a shooting practice session while Kevin Phillips watched and we didn't sign the player? Point being I'm sure Pearson already doesn't handle all aspects of management or training/coaching, he'll delegate like all managers do when necessary. The first part of your post is ridiculous. The signing of a player takes much more than what happens on deadline day. Of course he delegates down to the coaches, and they will take different aspects of training. However appointing a head coach would just mean the head coach would oversee and organise the training. It's just adding another step in the delegation process. I think you're under estimating the job of a Premier League manager, especially one that has just experienced his first season in the Premier League. Maybe they were underprepared and have realised this, and are actually doing something about it. Maybe they just don't want to miss out on a person who has all the credentials and potential, and has possibly proved himself to person to be a fantastic coach. If all of this is true, Nige isn't giving up the reigns, stepping back, or anything like that. He's adding a very valuable cog into a wheel that so far hasn't been turning so well. Let's face it, if it's not required and won't improve us, it won't happen. If it does happen, it'll have been down to Nige. He won't have his hand forced on such a matter.
Lionheart Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 Cambiassos ambition is to coach in the PL,Mourinho advised him to come to England this season to play and get some experience so it is feasible that he may be given a coaching role here before moving on to work with Mourinho.
ousefox Posted 25 April 2015 Posted 25 April 2015 ... not dealt with particularly well in so many ways. Swearing at a couple of people is hardly an indication of poor health.
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