Rincewind Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 I know where Corbyn got his inspiration from. Jose Mujica, the worlds poorest President. Could be Cameron in a few years. https://youtu.be/YFSmaztcP4c.
Darkon84 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Sorry, I'm not trying to lower the tone or drag it back to appearance, but this popped up on my Facebook, totally unrelated, and the first thing that came to mind was 'Blimey, Jeremy was on the Simpsons'. Again, no malice or anything, just a light hearted giggle, given yesterdays occurrence, and everyone loves a bit of The Simpsons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEBdBLt0Sek
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 I think he was referring to the fact that Corbyn has to kiss Queen's hand to be allowed in. You do, you kneel, kiss her hand and then recite this. You do swear by Almighty God to be a true and faithful Servant unto The Queen's Majesty as one of Her Majesty's Privy Council. You will not know or understand of any manner of thing to be attempted, done or spoken against Her Majesty's Person, Honour, Crown or Dignity Royal, but you will lett and withstand the same to the uttermost of your power, and either cause it to be revealed to Her Majesty Herself, or to such of Her Privy Council as shall advertise Her Majesty of the same. You will in all things to be moved, treated and debated in Council, faithfully and truly declare your Mind and Opinion, according to your Heart and Conscience; and will keep secret all matters committed and revealed unto you, or that shall be treated of secretly in Council. And if any of the said Treaties or Counsels shall touch any of the Counsellors you will not reveal it unto him but will keep the same until such time as, by the consent of Her Majesty or of the Council, Publication shall be made thereof. You will to your uttermost bear Faith and Allegiance to the Queen's Majesty; and will assist and defend all civil and temporal Jurisdictions, Pre-eminences, and Authorities, granted to Her Majesty and annexed to the Crown by Acts of Parliament, or otherwise, against all Foreign Princes, Persons, Prelates, States, or Potentates. And generally in all things you will do as a faithful and true Servant ought to do to Her Majesty so help you God Good old Andrew Neil having a right go about the national anthem on Daily Politics now
Footballwipe Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Jesus we're still going on about this? Honestly, I've no issue with Corbyn being leader, though (so maybe I do have an issue) I am genuinely scared those who seek to attack him will succeed, it's not like they haven't got long, assuming he lasts the five years. If he does fail (because I'm certain his tenure will be be feast or famine, no middle ground) then I worry about the genuine lack of opposition to the Conservatives. But if you're going to go after him go after him for something worthwhile. Pursue some of his ideologies if you like, pursue and scrutinise his policies, links etc, because if you want to be leader then they need scrutinising (let's ignore every other PM' in history's likely dodgy links to media,business,union etc for now) To have spent a day's worth of talk on the fact he didn't sing the national anthem is worrying. What's more worrying is that the Corbyn team are just letting it ride through. This has hit at least four news cycles now if you include Andrew Neil. And then, when presented with nipping it in the bud he refuses to answer the question, twice (assuming the summation of the video is accurate, I'm unable to watch at the moment.) If true then this sweeping wave of new politics has started well. Answer the question; we might not like the answer but we're more likely to respect whatever you say than being skirting around it. Classic politician. Finally, there's nothing wrong with being a Corbyn fan; I'd never heard of him before this so I can't exactly come out as a superfan, but the pack mentality from both sides is tiresome. Of course the right-wing press are going to have a field day. Yawn. The response from the hardcore fans is similar. Both sides need to stop cacooning themselves into corners of the press/media/internet where they are all appeased that their man is great and everyone else is a scumbag.
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Has she just invited Andrew Neil into the shadow cabinet to question them? She has and he's accepted straight away! Please televise that.
The Blur Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 You do, you kneel, kiss her hand and then recite this. Good old Andrew Neil having a right go about the national anthem on Daily Politics now My bad, I meant that he has to kiss the Queen's hand to access some funds. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/15/the-sun-newspaper-corbyn-privy-council_n_8138174.html
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 My bad, I meant that he has to kiss the Queen's hand to access some funds. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/09/15/the-sun-newspaper-corbyn-privy-council_n_8138174.html That's where the Sun seriously lets itself down, why the need to add the extra bit about funding on the end? The fact Corbyn will be getting on his knees, kissing the Queens hand and pledging his loyalty as a humble servant should be more than enough for a headline.
David Guiza Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Slating a man for not singing the national anthem just strikes me as pomposity personally, regardless of the occasion or personnel involved. Also, incidentally seems to have overshadowed the news at a similar time that the Tories have made a huge cut to tax credits that are going to effect millions of low paid workers. But yeah, a man not singing a song is the real problem with Britain.
Rincewind Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Slating a man for not singing the national anthem just strikes me as pomposity personally, regardless of the occasion or personnel involved. Also, incidentally seems to have overshadowed the news at a similar time that the Tories have made a huge cut to tax credits that are going to effect millions of low paid workers. But yeah, a man not singing a song is the real problem with Britain. What I was thinking too. The papers are full of Corbyn not singing. This is non Corbyn though. This story has been called a lie in the past on here. Still not featured in the Sun. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/16/disability-un-investigation-uk-government-violations-human-rights?CMP=share_btn_tw
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Handled with ease He will be, Corbyn appears to be too nice to actually seriously question someone, he could do with a crash course from Andrew Neil or Jeremy Paxman. It felt like I was watching an episode of Sally Jessy Raphael when he was asking his questions. edit Its just got interesting with Nigel Dodds!
Darkon84 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 He will be, Corbyn appears to be too nice to actually seriously question someone, he could do with a crash course from Andrew Neil or Jeremy Paxman. It felt like I was watching an episode of Sally Jessy Raphael when he was asking his questions. edit Its just got interesting with Nigel Dodds! It's been a bit of a training session for Cameron really, he's not broken sweat or been tested at all. Good to see the point regarding McDonnell was raised, and rightly so. Perhaps it may cause a bit of a re-think on the opposition bench, but I doubt it.
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Thought Cameron answered the question pretty well as well, didn't go on the attack, just made it clear that could never happen in the Tories. Some very uncomfortable faces on the Labour benches and rightly so. This was a bit weird though as an event, is he going to do this every week? "And this one's from Sadiq in Derby. He'd like to know 'What is the prime minister going to do about school places"
Darkon84 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Thought Cameron answered the question pretty well as well, didn't go on the attack, just made it clear that could never happen in the Tories. Some very uncomfortable faces on the Labour benches and rightly so. This was a bit weird though as an event, is he going to do this every week? "And this one's from Sadiq in Derby. He'd like to know 'What is the prime minister going to do about school places" Certainly have to agree with the point re: McDonnell. The question wasn't 100% answered, but answered enough to prove the point and get it across. Restrained, but successful. You surely can't carry on in that format every single time. It's slightly refreshing to get a couple of questions from the public, but he needs to stand on his two feet and go head to head in the future. Without the follow up, not a great deal gets sorted or discussed. There's no point raising issues that the public are concerned about, if you don't actually discuss them.
Guest Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Are you on a wind up, besides, location France, are you paying a license fee? Do you think that means I don't know the value of the BBC compared to other companies?
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 That's the problem with it, you only get six questions, you need to follow up on these things. It might be good for Corbyn as he doesn't have to think on his feet but not arguing or answering a single point Cameron makes isn't going to make any serious inroads.
Guest Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Corbyn completely owned Cameron. As he should against a clueless Etonian who left his child in a pub. JC puts forwards the questions of the people. He could do with being a bit more spiteful though.
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Corbyn completely owned Cameron. As he should against a clueless Etonian who left his child in a pub. JC puts forwards the questions of the people. He could do with being a bit more spiteful though. That post is about as balanced as your avatar If your right and that is Cameron being "owned" then I don't think the Tories have too much to worry about. The only "owning" in that session was the look on the front bench when most of the house rounded on them for appointing an IRA supporter as chancellor.
Darkon84 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 Corbyn completely owned Cameron. As he should against a clueless Etonian who left his child in a pub. JC puts forwards the questions of the people. He could do with being a bit more spiteful though. Trolling report C- 'Must try harder'
Fox92 Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 No need for all this slating. Haven't seen the papers yet but sat here with the radio on and the first news is about how he didn't sing the National Anthem.
Rincewind Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 It seems Corbyn not singing has now reached the quality news outlets. http://newsthump.com/2015/09/16/everyone-furious-as-agnostic-republican-doesnt-sing-song-about-god-rescuing-a-monarch/
Guest MattP Posted 16 September 2015 Posted 16 September 2015 It seems Corbyn not singing has now reached the quality news outlets. http://newsthump.com/2015/09/16/everyone-furious-as-agnostic-republican-doesnt-sing-song-about-god-rescuing-a-monarch/ You keep moaning about the media that keep going on about Corbyn not singing the anthem then keep posting links to media that keep mentioning Corbyn not singing the national anthem. What did you think of PMQ's? Let's get onto Corbyn's politics, that's what you want isn't it?
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